Sorry for the delay in jumping in, like I mentioned the weekend was a little rough for me.
I had not been keeping up, but I am caught up now.
Things I am late to the party on:
1) Joseph asking for the wincons. My new philosophy from a few games back is to assign skum points to any open forum questions like this. Reason being essentially what faust pointed out.
Mod: Can we have sample role PMs?
So we can be sure of the other team's win conditions
2) This...
Mod: Can we have sample role PMs?
So we can be sure of the other team's win conditions
In the first post there is a link to the setup that has all the samples. The only thing changed is i added the flavor names into them all.
I followed that link a couple of weeks ago, but there was something I still wasn't clear about.
- town win condition is to have 2 scum dead and 1 scum on guillotine.
- scum win condition is to have at least as many scum alive as town (and on guillotine counts as alive).
So what happens if there are 3 players remaining: 1 scum who is not voting, 1 vig who is voting for the scum player, 1 VT on guillotine.
Now if the vig shoots, then the scum player immediately goes on the guillotine and both win conditions are met simultaneously. What happens?
Followed by this...
Faust, why do you like day 1 so much?
Because I'm alive on D1!
But seriously, that's not all. D1 is your purest form of social deduction. You have to figure out who's scum just by tone and without no concrete info. It's a special kind of challenge and it is just super satisfying to nail down a scum on the first Day.
I have a suggestion, and I might in fact be semi-serious about this.
I understand you have a track record of being killed first night. So how about we lynch you day 1? The set-up says the on-guillotine player cannot be night-killed. So if we lynch you day 1 then that guarantees that we benefit from your insight for day 1 AND day 2.
You'd be ok with that wouldn't you...?
Followed by this...
Mod: Can we have sample role PMs?
So we can be sure of the other team's win conditions
thanks
so the scum win condition is "You win when there are as many or more living Mafia as there are living non-Mafia or if nothing can prevent the same. (Someone on guillotine is still alive.)"
So on guillotine counts as alive for town, but effectively as dead for scum (if there's only 1 left)
.... is probably not Skum!Fang. Messed up thought process, followed by an outrageous plan, followed by self correction before anyone says anything. Not getting skum vibes from Fang here. No one really pushed them for it, so I guess this is just me stating I am leaning town on Fang currently.
3) Skum points to Chairs. Though I do understand their explanation a few posts later regarding the timeline they had in mind.
Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
4) Fang making a very good point. More town points.
There's been a couple of things that seem backwards.
First faust:
Say you have two competing claims. In standard mafia you can just lynch one, if they're scum, lynch the other.
Surely if the first one is scum you don't lynch the other?
Now chairs:
Voting Faust D1 when we could lynch him later after the lack of NK proves he isn’t scum is scummy. vote: pps
How can surviving a night prove that someone isn't scum?
Or is it me who's got it backwards? Anyway, not sure that saying such things is necessarily scummy, just find it a bit odd that we've had two things like that now.
5) PPS... just kind of making no sense. First off, while I agree that Space is analytical.. I would invite you to help them create a situation to "solve" at this point in the game. More importantly, why in all the hell would you vote for Chairs if you think Space is skum?
Maybe I'll try being a bit more direct. Pingpongsam, why does Space seem town to you this time?
Gut read only. Mainly, I always think Space is scum and I’m not getting that feel this time. Space is usually way more analytical and buddying with people. They seem pretty much like uninformed town right now though.
MO was short for modus operandi.
Vote: chairs
Pretty much all of that has been touched on already, but wanted my opinion out on a few things. I will be able to be active from here on in. See you tomorrow, it is late here.