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[silverspawn]

well awaclus's lynch at worst gives us info on who has been defending him and stuff. So i think awaclus lynch here is ok also.

uh

[iguanaiguana]

Oh my god, I can't believe it's still!D1.

that is not how you use the ! thing. at all.

I believe he knew that and was being creative in his use of it. I found it refreshing.

[iguanaiguana]

I'm okay with the Awaclus vote, but I don't think it would get us a whole lot.  There's the potential he's scum, but really almost everyone is potential scum right now.  I keep getting the feeling of "ug, we're never going to find anyone", but then realize it's still only day 1. 

As for the e vote, not sure.  He's read town to me for the most part, and I feel like voting him would be totes OMGUS, but I need to get over that. 

We've got a little more time and I haven't been around much today. Will give everything another look tomorrow and come back better informed.

Man, I would so vote you right now, but I want to stay on Awaclus.

Think they can both be scum?

You like the Awaclus lynch so much that you voted for him three times in a row without saying anything else!

[Hydrad]

well awaclus's lynch at worst gives us info on who has been defending him and stuff. So i think awaclus lynch here is ok also.

uh

I feel like I'm missing something. Did I fail at grammar again?

[silverspawn]

No, it's just such a scummy thing to say. "I'm fine with the lynch, since it gives us information".

But I think it's the kind of thing that you say as either alignment, so just for you I doubt it's a scumtell.

[Hydrad]

No, it's just such a scummy thing to say. "I'm fine with the lynch, since it gives us information".

But I think it's the kind of thing that you say as either alignment, so just for you I doubt it's a scumtell.

ah I see. and if its not a scum tell. Its has to be a town tell! I'm getting even closer to my super IC spot.

[silverspawn]

It's a Hydrad-tell.

[Witherweaver]

No, it's just such a scummy thing to say. "I'm fine with the lynch, since it gives us information".

But I think it's the kind of thing that you say as either alignment, so just for you I doubt it's a scumtell.

There's a certain signature that has certain relevance here.

[Awaclus]

I'll admit that the problem is more that I am not particularly convinced Awaclus is scum. If your argument is "Awaclus is being unhelpful", I'm sorry to break it to you, but that doesn't mean much with regards to his alignment.

That isn't the argument at all.  Well, not mine at least.  What made me vote Awaclus was how he came onto the Yuma wagon.  It felt like he was trying to take advantage of the situation and get an easy lynch in.  Now, he just won't switch off and won't consider anything else.  At this point, he is making a gambit with his "uselessness."  Getting people like you to argue that he is not a good lynch because we wont learn much.

He won't change his mantra.  His mantra is not scummy by itself, but refusing to look anywhere else is I think

Do you also find my yuma vote in Switch and my silver vote in Random super scummy?

[Roadrunner7671]

Oh my god, I can't believe it's still!D1.

that is not how you use the ! thing. at all.

I believe he knew that and was being creative in his use of it. I found it refreshing.

This is correct. So Iguanaiguana is decisive, good to know. Or he can just recognize a joke. That would also be good to know.

[2.71828.....]

I'll admit that the problem is more that I am not particularly convinced Awaclus is scum. If your argument is "Awaclus is being unhelpful", I'm sorry to break it to you, but that doesn't mean much with regards to his alignment.

That isn't the argument at all.  Well, not mine at least.  What made me vote Awaclus was how he came onto the Yuma wagon.  It felt like he was trying to take advantage of the situation and get an easy lynch in.  Now, he just won't switch off and won't consider anything else.  At this point, he is making a gambit with his "uselessness."  Getting people like you to argue that he is not a good lynch because we wont learn much.

He won't change his mantra.  His mantra is not scummy by itself, but refusing to look anywhere else is I think

Do you also find my yuma vote in Switch and my silver vote in Random super scummy?

1.  I didn't follow Switch mafia.
2. You are seriously referencing a Bastard game for a reference point?

[Awaclus]

1.  I didn't follow Switch mafia.
2. You are seriously referencing a Bastard game for a reference point?

I played that Bastard game seriously, so I don't see why I wouldn't reference it seriously too. Just because you didn't follow Switch mafia doesn't mean it didn't happen.

[faust]

Do you also find my yuma vote in Switch and my silver vote in Random super scummy?

The fact that you are using these games as an excuse is in itself scummy.

[Awaclus]

The fact that you are using these games as an excuse is in itself scummy.

I'm not using them as an excuse. I'm using them to show that this is what I do (as town) every time someone claims a win con and plays against it. What is truly baffling to me is why I'm the only one.

[Haddock]

I don't want to lynch Awa here unless there's no other way to get a lynch through.

The e thing:  I'm not voting him purely on Teproc's case, which people seemed to think.  I'd found him at least a bit scummy already.  I'm also finding that e is the only person among my scumreads that other people are voting for - there's no point having my vote alone on someone.

But I think it's the kind of thing that you say as either alignment, so just for you I doubt it's a scumtell.

Really?  I think his post does look like scum here, even if it is Hydrad.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 1.15:

Ampharos (2): Hydrad, RR
yuma (1): Awaclus
2.7 (4): EgorK, Teproc, ss, Haddock
ss (1): yuma
Awaclus (4): faust, WW, iguana, 2.7

Not Voting (1):, Ampharos

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends on December 8 at 9:00 a.m. forum time.

[faust]

The fact that you are using these games as an excuse is in itself scummy.

I'm not using them as an excuse. I'm using them to show that this is what I do (as town) every time someone claims a win con and plays against it. What is truly baffling to me is why I'm the only one.

And you are conveniently ignoring everything else in this game.

[Awaclus]

And you are conveniently ignoring everything else in this game.

I'm not ignoring anything, there's just no need to focus on any of it as long as the confirmed scum is still alive. Which is also exactly how it was in Switch and Random. It's just that in those games, people were a lot more reasonable so the lynches happened faster.

[iguanaiguana]

Do you also find my yuma vote in Switch and my silver vote in Random super scummy?

Responding to Switch. Did not play or read the other game.

Your question is irrelevant, because Yuma did not claim to be a serial killer as a gambit to get you killed. Yuma simply got angry and stopped making helpful posts in the game for a couple of days. While the behavior is unusual, there are a variety of reasons someone might decide to do it as scum or as town, including the simplest explanation that Yuma didn't want to say something he would later regret. Therefore, there is nothing in the behavior that explicitly shows that Yuma is playing against a town wincon.

[Awaclus]

Your question is irrelevant, because Yuma did not claim to be a serial killer as a gambit to get you killed. Yuma simply got angry and stopped making helpful posts in the game for a couple of days. While the behavior is unusual, there are a variety of reasons someone might decide to do it as scum or as town, including the simplest explanation that Yuma didn't want to say something he would later regret. Therefore, there is nothing in the behavior that explicitly shows that Yuma is playing against a town wincon.

For a couple of days, i.e. until people started lynching him for it.

[yuma]

Fascinating.

[silverspawn]

vote: YPG
vote: Awaclus
vote: e

we should lynch one of those guys. too much stalling is going on right now.

[yuma]

vote: YPG
vote: Awaclus
vote: e

one of these things is not like the other...

[2.71828.....]

vote: YPG
vote: Awaclus
vote: e

we should lynch one of those guys. too much stalling is going on right now.

And the order is wrong.  Awaclus should be last.  "YPG" should be Ampharos, and e shouldn't be on here. 

I didn't get the chance to really read that case put against me.  I will do that now.

[iguanaiguana]

Fascinating.

You gunna trademark that?