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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 19, 2017, 12:50:44 am »

can i not fuck up quotes just once.

1. there's no reason for scum to not lie about a draft to instead of refusing to tell. This is only true before i said this and now WIFOM is introduced

2. his point was that dead townies are the same as dead ICs.

I think there could have been wifom before you pointed it out. And I actually do think Reggie was implying that he thinks his plan makes him a soft IC even before dying.

I wasn't.  But I should be an IC because I'm town.

Ok I was trying to give you benefit of the doubt but now I'm just confused.

Well what I was saying was that I would be an IC after I died.  But also since I'm town, people should treat me like an IC.  Although you don't have solid proof that I'm town so you probably won't do that.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 19, 2017, 12:47:53 am »

can i not fuck up quotes just once.

1. there's no reason for scum to not lie about a draft to instead of refusing to tell. This is only true before i said this and now WIFOM is introduced

2. his point was that dead townies are the same as dead ICs.

I think there could have been wifom before you pointed it out. And I actually do think Reggie was implying that he thinks his plan makes him a soft IC even before dying.

I wasn't.  But I should be an IC because I'm town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 19, 2017, 12:05:51 am »

can i not fuck up quotes just once.

1. there's no reason for scum to not lie about a draft to instead of refusing to tell. This is only true before i said this and now WIFOM is introduced

2. his point was that dead townies are the same as dead ICs.

I don't know if I agree on either of those points.

But it's true that once a townie dies they're mod-confirmed as town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 11:29:19 pm »

the problem is that makes sense for scum and town to say that: given the absence of information, you're entirely right, but if you're mafia and know you don't have Hammer Hero, it's still a good thing to argue.

True, but I'm not mafia. Which will become obvious when I self-hammer.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 11:27:22 pm »

What did you bid on?

Not saying. Scum wants to know more than town.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 11:22:24 pm »

Ok, I'm a VT, bid 14th. My plan is this: I think it's a really bad idea for hammer hero to have a hammer D1, perhaps D2 as well. There's just higher utility for scum to have kills early in the game. So if someone claims intent to hammer, I will self-hammer as soon as I see it. If someone goes against this, you should lynch them. If I make a post between intent to hammer and self-hammering, go ahead and lynch me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 11:19:05 pm »

Though I think the plan is just a form of claiming, don't do that unless your at l-1

He is. I am voting for him. Except not so as to not end the day early.

I think we probably have enough interactions for D1, and it would be nice to be an IC anyway.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 11:17:50 pm »

Ok, I can claim first and then tell you my plan if you still want to lynch me.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 08:22:54 pm »

But I'm serious. I want Galz to say a reason for typing a zero instead of an o, which is not something that happens accidentally, or else there might have to be some mod action.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 08:18:19 pm »

No, i think reggie is scum and i think in this game it's really easy for scum to destroy every wagon because there's much of them

But also there's so many of town, much more proportional to the number needed to lynch than in most games. I really think that with a good case, we have a higher chance of lynching scum D1.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 08:16:54 pm »

Galz I'm not totally convinced. LL could still assume an expected value of at least one scum among those four without a strong scum read on anyone individually.

Hell, you were making a similar argument before when talking about scum on the wagon itself. It's just 1 in 4 now instead of 1 in 8, but 1 in 4 is close to the total scum proportion anyhow.

I get what you're saying, and I think it is similar... but I also think it's different. He used the four of us (Me, Sudgy, TWM, Eevee) leaving Reggie as justification for his vote ("Scum leaving a scum wagon while they can")- and I have trouble seeing that without a deeper thought process behind it. Like, how can you even say that - or think that even - without knowing who the people leaving are? And it's not like he had a crazy strong scum read on Reggie before (to my memory - please correct if wrong). Further, and this is what really stuck me, is that *even if Reggie is town, he thinks scum was leaving the wagon* - so he's got a stronger feeling on THAT aspect of things than Reggie's alignment - yet doesn't have a strong feeling on any of the four of us in particular?

I guess what I'm saying is that what really bothered me in his response, is that the two seemingly contradict each other - or at least, I would've thought that if we lynched Reggie and he flipped town, it would have LaLight re-evaluating his "scum leaving a scum wagon". But instead it would just be "scum leaving a town wagon". If he's that certain scum was leaving the wagon there, shouldn't he be looking at that very small pool of players more closely? Or have a slightly stronger opinion on them? 0r at least know who the four of us were?

No cryptography! vote: Galz. If you're a town PR doing this then this is just bad for us.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 08:15:46 pm »

I see the cases on LaLight and totally understand them. However I don't see scum!LaLight going this hard after town D1.

Also I'm further convinced that mcmc is bussing. There is no reason for him to be talking this much about scum play theory of not to de-implicate himself.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 12:15:27 pm »

People should claim their bid number at least in twilight if not in L-1.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 18, 2017, 09:25:29 am »

I can't argue with the fact that my TWM case was bad. I could have been much more eloquent and concise, especially later on. But it's such a big game and hard to go back and reference the right posts.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 11:24:08 pm »

And that wasn't meant as a personal attack on either of them, just a comment on their playstyles.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 11:23:02 pm »

I plan on voting J Reggie when I'm able to pay closer attention, so treat him as pseudo L-2.

Hahahaha, I'm not the only one, lol, love it. I mean, I don't rightly care about the Regina wagon but the whole thing about claiming intent to hammer well before the wagon end appears.

pps, can we use people's actual names please?

Asking pps to use people's actual names is almost like asking Awaclus to be reasonable.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 11:22:14 pm »

I'm roughly 20 pages behind and am going VLA for the next couple days before I'll be able to catch up unless I am able to take some time to read during my time as a passenger. I'll check back in a few hours for an answer, but considering I don't know anything that is going on for context, should I unvote until I can catch up in a couple days? Thanks, and sorry I won't be here for a while.

Naw, don't worry about it. If I'm going to be lynched it won't be your fault.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 07:59:14 pm »

Can we please not end this Day before we've at least gotten past the weekend?

Why?

It means some people have no time to post on the weekend, so let's not end the day before they can get their bearings.  At least from my perspective.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 07:13:16 pm »

Can we please not end this Day before we've at least gotten past the weekend?

agreed

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 06:54:10 pm »

I think Reginald is L-3 which is normally not a big deal but there's a lot more potential votes floating around this game.

What potential votes?  The only weird voting role I see is the Restless Sheeper.

Also, like, there are a bunch of players.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 06:17:26 pm »

So I'm at L-3 right now which is kind of bigger than it sounds with this many people.  If I get to L-1, then:
don't hammer me, I have a plan.

Why do we have to wait until L-1 to hear such a plan?

It involves me claiming and I don't want to do that if I don't have to.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 06:04:46 pm »

So I'm at L-3 right now which is kind of bigger than it sounds with this many people.  If I get to L-1, then:
don't hammer me, I have a plan.

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 06:02:33 pm »

ok, if Awaclus isn't happening, I'll return to vote: mcmc

Agree with the vote, but it's a little early to be doing the "if x isn't happening, back to y".  So FOS: LaLight

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 06:01:39 pm »

Galz: it was the "serious vote" part.

That would be reasonable had you explained your vote. Or your reasons. Or anything really. Maybe it's just a different style of play - but doing things and then going back and putting reasons to them later is scummy to me. It gives you time to see how everyone else reacts, and then make your explanation adjustments accordingly. It's a lot harder to defend a stated position than it is to make one up later imo

I'm ok with this.  I did it like I did it for a reason; I wanted to see how TWM reacted.  Probably not the best play on my part but I wasn't thinking about not getting myself lynched, I was thinking about lynching scum. 

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Mafia Game Threads / Re: Mafia 100: Forum All-Stars -- DAY 1

« on: May 17, 2017, 01:47:46 pm »

Galz: it was the "serious vote" part.