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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #650 on: June 10, 2016, 07:14:25 pm »

By 2 scum QTs, I mean scum/scum QT
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #651 on: June 10, 2016, 07:17:01 pm »

By 2 scum QTs, I mean scum/scum QT

If there's a scum/scum QT, that also means that there are exactly 2 QTs that contain scum, so what you posted first was actually accurate.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #652 on: June 10, 2016, 07:17:53 pm »

For some reason I thought there were two scum, so O had to reread the setup.

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #653 on: June 10, 2016, 07:18:15 pm »

Wait, this isn't City Hall Mafia?
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #654 on: June 11, 2016, 12:22:03 am »

The Haddock lynch is where it's at. Time to get this guy dead as dead can be.

Heap 'em on.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #655 on: June 11, 2016, 06:00:45 am »

OK, so the final day is upon us and apparently I'm still the one in the lead to be lynched.  Which is super frustrating, especially since my wagon basically isn't any bigger than the competing ones.  It also hurts that my vote has been essentially rendered useless by Awaclus refusing to move.

I don't really know what to say at this point. I'm aware that my play for the first half of the day was really weak; but it really bugs me that noone has noted how I've stepped up my game since I found the time more recently.  In particular since Fruit Ninja ended.

Lots of people look towny here, scum must be playing well, so I understand that there's a lot of PoE doing work.  But we can do better than me.  I have been scumhunting as well as anyone else in recent times, and have been contributing much more effectively than the current alternative wagons. 

Can the people currently on my wagon please explain why?  The person who made the case (faust) has even moved away, and you guys haven't really offered anything. 

ADK in particular, can you rethink your vote please? 
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #656 on: June 11, 2016, 06:18:13 am »

Haddock: Can you present your reads more clearly maybe? (Possibly you have done this already, I didn't check.)
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #657 on: June 11, 2016, 06:21:13 am »

So, summary of my reads:

People I would like to lynch:
iguana (some posts that read like his town meta but also lots of scummy things)
gkrieg (I stand by my stance on his recent slip.  And he's not done anything towny except his reads list)

People I could lynch:
ced (Many questions, and fair enough if that's his style, but he hasn't been super towny in general)
Jimmm (lurker)

People I probably wouldn't want to lynch:
ADK (towny in general)
Seprix (lots of idiotic posts that make no sense, but I've come to expect that)
silver (makes a lot of sense, which is a nulltell for him but he's handy to have around as a result)

People I definitely wouldn't want to lynch:
Joseph, RR, faust, Awaclus.  All for fairly obvious reasons.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #658 on: June 11, 2016, 06:37:46 am »

I really want to know what kind of weird-ass scum narrative you came up with for these posts of mine that you found strange.

You made like four different posts so I'll condense my response into a reply to this one.

I think the scum narrative for both things is obvious:

-Self-meta posts are often moot points at best. Obviously a scum doing self-meta can just "re-interpret" their meta so that it fits their play this game. Hence, when you use "solvy" to describe both, I'm thinking that this is maybe what you're doing. That said, your defense that one was "solvy the entire game" and the other one was "solvy until I get emotional" does make sense in the context of your self-meta posts.

-The "silver and faust are 100% in agreement" thing is noncommittal. I'll throw out the 100% thing - I think it was hyperbolic, but you have evidence behind your words, so sure. The "interesting" conclusion was the main thing I didn't like. Saying an aspect of someone's play is "interesting" sort of implies you find it scummy but might not mean that at all. That's what scum like to do - say something ambiguous now so you can clarify it later. I would also argue that if it is something you will "keep in mind for sure down the road" and if you think that "the act of observing a behavior manipulates the behavior", then maybe you should have kept the "100% in agreement" thing to yourself for now, rather than posted it in thread.
There's a second noncommittal aspect, actually. Your original post said that it was both silver and faust agreeing with eachother. Yet your post evidence is only of silver's posting. Why did you say that "[they] are in agreement" rather than "silver is agreeing with faust" originally?

This post is actually a good idea.  It wouldn't hurt to say who we plan on requesting before the day is over.

Uh, that's not what I said.

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Unvote Seprix

Alright, so by my watch it's ~6.5 hours til the deadline. I should be online until then.

Looking back on Seprix's defense of my case, I'm liking him a lot more. He did have a more believable townie motive than what I thought for one of his posts, and that's really a big point in his favour if that comes to him naturally.

Awaclus might be increasingly looking like a caricature, but I don't think I want to lynch him for that. I feel it might be easier to read him a day or two down the line.

Jimmmmm's a lurker lynch. Lurker lynches are usually pretty janky, but man, if he's gonna lurk like this the whole game then he's a good fallback lynch. That said, I think someone mentioned earlier something along the lines of Jimmm and day one being a nonbo, and if that's the case I'd like to wait on that too.

All considered, I'd really like to vote iguana, but at this stage it's pointless of course. Actually, it's looking increasingly likely that my vote is only going to count on Haddock. Hmm. I haven't really read his recent posts (in particular his game analysis post) in-depth yet. I'll go and do that.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #659 on: June 11, 2016, 06:58:24 am »

Jimmmmm's a lurker lynch. Lurker lynches are usually pretty janky, but man, if he's gonna lurk like this the whole game then he's a good fallback lynch. That said, I think someone mentioned earlier something along the lines of Jimmm and day one being a nonbo, and if that's the case I'd like to wait on that too.

All considered, I'd really like to vote iguana, but at this stage it's pointless of course. Actually, it's looking increasingly likely that my vote is only going to count on Haddock. Hmm. I haven't really read his recent posts (in particular his game analysis post) in-depth yet. I'll go and do that.
You should note that voting Jimmm would "count" in the sense of making him the lynch instead of me.  Which would be good, overall.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #660 on: June 11, 2016, 07:01:15 am »

Vote Count 1.Haddock.2

Haddock (2)*: ADK, iguana, gkrieg
Joseph (0): Jimmmmm
faust (0): Awaclus
Jimmmmm (2): Roadrunner, Joseph, Haddock
Awaclus (2): silverspawn, faust

Not voting (1): ced, Seprix
With 12 alive it takes 7 to majority lynch
*=would be lynched if deadline were now.

So, people's whose vote is currently not doing something useful:
Jimmmm, Awaclus, ced, Seprix.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #661 on: June 11, 2016, 07:01:31 am »

Last bit was not meant to be bold.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #662 on: June 11, 2016, 07:01:53 am »


Why is delaying an Awaclus lynch any good? Won't we have better alternatives then? Isn't now the best time, where we have town reads but no scum reads?

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #663 on: June 11, 2016, 07:14:02 am »


Why is delaying an Awaclus lynch any good? Won't we have better alternatives then? Isn't now the best time, where we have town reads but no scum reads?

No.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #664 on: June 11, 2016, 07:16:47 am »

I think deadline is in about 6 hours.

Vote: Jimmmmm out of self-preservation.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #665 on: June 11, 2016, 07:45:17 am »

I'm not a big fan of the Jimmmmm wagon. Too many not-so-towny people on it.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #666 on: June 11, 2016, 07:46:07 am »

Request prod on Jimmmmmm
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #667 on: June 11, 2016, 07:53:25 am »

Sorry I'm here.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #669 on: June 11, 2016, 08:15:27 am »

Sorry I'm here.

So put your vote somewhere useful.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #670 on: June 11, 2016, 08:18:26 am »

Awaclus is clearly not happening.

Vote: Haddock again.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #671 on: June 11, 2016, 08:39:15 am »

Sorry I'm here.

So put your vote somewhere useful.

Well my partner isn't voting so I can't at this point.
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #672 on: June 11, 2016, 08:39:37 am »

Vote: Haddock
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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #673 on: June 11, 2016, 08:55:06 am »

Vote Count 1.12

Haddock (2): ADK, iguana, gkrieg, faust, Jimmmmm
Jimmmmm (4): Roadrunner, Joseph, Haddock, Awaclus
Awaclus (0): silverspawn

Not voting (2): ced, Seprix
With 12 alive it takes 7 to majority lynch

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Re: Mafia 82: Speed-Dating Mafia - Day 1
« Reply #674 on: June 11, 2016, 08:57:10 am »

Sorry I'm here.

So put your vote somewhere useful.

Well my partner isn't voting so I can't at this point.

The vote still does something. But yes, one of our partners needs to move to Haddock for that to happen.
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