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Title: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Wrclass on August 25, 2013, 10:48:58 am
I spotted this combo while playing on Goko yesterday. The idea is that you use Marauder/Cultist to empty the ruins pile, then buy Death Cart, not gaining any ruins because the pile is empty. The game I played with was with Marauder, but I think it will work better Cultist. A similar counter is using cursing attacks to counter Embargo.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: eHalcyon on August 25, 2013, 04:37:36 pm
I spotted this combo while playing on Goko yesterday. The idea is that you use Marauder/Cultist to empty the ruins pile, then buy Death Cart, not gaining any ruins because the pile is empty. The game I played with was with Marauder, but I think it will work better Cultist. A similar counter is using cursing attacks to counter Embargo.

Not really a combo, nor a counter.  If there is junking in the form of Marauder/Cultist, it is probably something you want to pick up.  It makes no sense that you would go to all the trouble of emptying the Ruins with Marauder/Cultist just so you could get Death Cart without Ruins.  That's far too much work for too little reward.  In fact, the Ruins that come with Death Cart are not really that bad because they are fodder for the DC itself.  The presence of DC might actually be a reason to skip Marauder/Cultist, because the opponent could just feed them to DC.  You might say that DC is a counter to the other Looters though.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Witherweaver on September 05, 2013, 03:28:32 pm
I spotted this combo while playing on Goko yesterday. The idea is that you use Marauder/Cultist to empty the ruins pile, then buy Death Cart, not gaining any ruins because the pile is empty. The game I played with was with Marauder, but I think it will work better Cultist. A similar counter is using cursing attacks to counter Embargo.

Not really a combo, nor a counter.  If there is junking in the form of Marauder/Cultist, it is probably something you want to pick up.  It makes no sense that you would go to all the trouble of emptying the Ruins with Marauder/Cultist just so you could get Death Cart without Ruins.  That's far too much work for too little reward.  In fact, the Ruins that come with Death Cart are not really that bad because they are fodder for the DC itself.  The presence of DC might actually be a reason to skip Marauder/Cultist, because the opponent could just feed them to DC.  You might say that DC is a counter to the other Looters though.

How effective is Death Cart for countering looters?   It doesn't seem like it would be unless you have a way to increase your hand size, otherwise you have to rely on matching up your Death Cart with your junk, which gets less and less likely as you get junked more and more.  Though maybe with a few Death Carts and a bunch of ruins you have a better chance.  But it seems like you would get bogged down once Cultist goes off a couple of times without some other kind of support. 
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: soulnet on September 05, 2013, 03:44:37 pm
If your key price point is $5 or less (Duke, Gardens, Silk Road) loading up on DCs and ignoring ruins may be reasonable. For gardens you are probably better off with keeping the ruins and buying a better enabler, but for Silk Road and especially Duke, DC may be nice.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: manthos88 on October 21, 2013, 12:34:30 pm
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Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: SCSN on October 21, 2013, 12:46:31 pm
Nothing really to say about this topic... i just love ur signature text... :D

The part he left out is that he top-decked the Tunnel, discarded the Fortress and trashed the Gold.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Witherweaver on October 21, 2013, 12:49:43 pm
Nothing really to say about this topic... i just love ur signature text... :D

The part he left out is that he top-decked the Tunnel, discarded the Fortress and trashed the Gold.

Because in the next five four cards was a Forager that needed to be powered up.  Then his opponent plays a Sea Hag and discards the Tunnel, which he reveals for a Gold.  He uses the Forager to trash the Curse.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: eHalcyon on October 21, 2013, 01:41:37 pm
Nothing really to say about this topic... i just love ur signature text... :D

The part he left out is that he top-decked the Tunnel, discarded the Fortress and trashed the Gold.

Because in the next five four cards was a Forager that needed to be powered up.  Then his opponent plays a Sea Hag and discards the Tunnel, which he reveals for a Gold.  He uses the Forager to trash the Curse.

Not possible.  If he top-decked the Tunnel, he's going to draw that Tunnel before his opponent's turn.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Grujah on October 21, 2013, 01:51:15 pm
Not if he topdecks 5 things with scheme.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Warfreak2 on October 21, 2013, 03:18:05 pm
At some point, these things stop being edge-cases and start being vertex-cases.
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: Witherweaver on October 21, 2013, 04:13:38 pm
Not if he topdecks 5 things with scheme.

Yeah, that was implied...
Title: Re: Possible Combo: Death Cart/Other Looter
Post by: manthos88 on October 22, 2013, 04:09:42 am
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