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[Calamitas]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

I don't think we should no-lynch here.

[Witherweaver]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

Oh, I see.  Um... what reasons?

[Robz888]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

Oh, I see.  Um... what reasons?

Reasonable reasons.

[mcmcsalot]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

[Calamitas]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

We still have teamlyle as extra vote, so it wouldn't be lost right away. But lynching is still better today.

[mcmcsalot]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

We still have teamlyle as extra vote, so it wouldn't be lost right away. But lynching is still better today.

Oh right, mafia has to be able to kill all town members so we would be left with 2 town/2 scum and teamlyles vote meaning the two town plus teamlyle can still lynch mafia dropping it to 1 town/1 scum and teamlyles vote.

[Calamitas]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

We still have teamlyle as extra vote, so it wouldn't be lost right away. But lynching is still better today.

Oh right, mafia has to be able to kill all town members so we would be left with 2 town/2 scum and teamlyles vote meaning the two town plus teamlyle can still lynch mafia dropping it to 1 town/1 scum and teamlyles vote.

Yep

[Robz888]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

We still have teamlyle as extra vote, so it wouldn't be lost right away. But lynching is still better today.

Oh right, mafia has to be able to kill all town members so we would be left with 2 town/2 scum and teamlyles vote meaning the two town plus teamlyle can still lynch mafia dropping it to 1 town/1 scum and teamlyles vote.

Fun watching you go through the motions of pretending to realize this.

[Calamitas]

Robz, do you want to lynch for any specific reason besides lynchpool reduction? Because that doesn't apply here.

[Robz888]

Robz, do you want to lynch for any specific reason besides lynchpool reduction? Because that doesn't apply here.

Can you reword or explain this?

[Calamitas]

Robz, do you want to lynch for any specific reason besides lynchpool reduction? Because that doesn't apply here.

Can you reword or explain this?

Usually you want to no-lynch here to force mafia to kill and reach a better chance to hit scum the day after. That doesn't apply here though (because of our vig).  So I wanted to ask whether you have any other reasons to be in favor of no-lynch here.

[Witherweaver]

Space response to Eevee claim:

Why do you think this makes Eevee more likely to be scum?

Because he definitely claimed tracker:

I'm a tracker. I targeted gkrieg last night.

And yet he's now claiming to have targeted me last night because he thought I was a likely NK target:

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

If you're a tracker, you track a person you think is scum. What Eevee describes doing fits a watcher not a tracker. An actual PR wouldn't have made that mistake.

[Witherweaver]

Actually this was first:

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

I thought you were a Tracker?

Well, he's got to be scum now. This would be a good point to work out who his accomplices are.

Plus, that explains why he lived through the night as a claimed tracker. Though I still don't see what Paco did to give himself away :-(

[Witherweaver]

Robz:

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

I thought you were a Tracker?

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

I thought you were a Tracker?

Well, he's got to be scum now. This would be a good point to work out who his accomplices are.

Plus, that explains why he lived through the night as a claimed tracker. Though I still don't see what Paco did to give himself away :-(

Why do you think this makes Eevee more likely to be scum?

Why do you think this makes Eevee more likely to be scum?

Because he definitely claimed tracker:

I'm a tracker. I targeted gkrieg last night.

And yet he's now claiming to have targeted me last night because he thought I was a likely NK target:

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

If you're a tracker, you track a person you think is scum. What Eevee describes doing fits a watcher not a tracker. An actual PR wouldn't have made that mistake.

Okay, right. Yes, I thought that too.

But here's the thing... Eevee is either Tracker who got the Tracker role wrong, or scum who got the Tracker role wrong. I'm surprised that Eevee got it wrong in either case, but I'm not sure the latter is more believable than the former. Wouldn't his scum buddies have helped him pick a target and rationale?

They could have chosen to have him screw it up, I guess.

[Witherweaver]

McMc:

Why do you think this makes Eevee more likely to be scum?

Because he definitely claimed tracker:

I'm a tracker. I targeted gkrieg last night.

And yet he's now claiming to have targeted me last night because he thought I was a likely NK target:

I targeted SA, whom I though most universally town-read (so a likely target for a mafia kill). Received no result.

If you're a tracker, you track a person you think is scum. What Eevee describes doing fits a watcher not a tracker. An actual PR wouldn't have made that mistake.

Okay, right. Yes, I thought that too.

But here's the thing... Eevee is either Tracker who got the Tracker role wrong, or scum who got the Tracker role wrong. I'm surprised that Eevee got it wrong in either case, but I'm not sure the latter is more believable than the former. Wouldn't his scum buddies have helped him pick a target and rationale?

They could have chosen to have him screw it up, I guess.

So I think at this point eevee is obviously scum, robz preventing me from getting the eevee lynch through by making the jreggie case seem better an then trying to get a lalight case going when the jreggie one stalled and people started considering eevee again is really suspicious from my perspective. i think scum!spaceanemonie and scum!witherweaver just don't work with a town jreggie and scum partner eevee.

I think it is very likely robz/eevee/lalight or robz/eevee/cal.

[Witherweaver]

Calamitas:

... it's very quiet here.

All waiting for eever I guess

[Robz888]

Robz, do you want to lynch for any specific reason besides lynchpool reduction? Because that doesn't apply here.

Can you reword or explain this?

Usually you want to no-lynch here to force mafia to kill and reach a better chance to hit scum the day after. That doesn't apply here though (because of our vig).  So I wanted to ask whether you have any other reasons to be in favor of no-lynch here.

What does the Vig have to do with it?

[mcmcsalot]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.

We are 5 people, 3 are town 2 are scum, a no lynch would result in 2 town/2 scum and we lose.

We still have teamlyle as extra vote, so it wouldn't be lost right away. But lynching is still better today.

Oh right, mafia has to be able to kill all town members so we would be left with 2 town/2 scum and teamlyles vote meaning the two town plus teamlyle can still lynch mafia dropping it to 1 town/1 scum and teamlyles vote.

Fun watching you go through the motions of pretending to realize this.

Ooh you make me want to vote you so bad, I am so sure you are scum. I am so positive you buddied me most of the game, you agreed eevee was scummy but always said someone else was better. You tried to get jreggie or lalight who we now know was town lynched. You kept me alive because you thought you could manipulate me which you have gone on record saying as scum before, and you totally flipped on me when eevee slipped up with his results claim because you knew eevee would go down and it would look terrible for you so you tried to get out ahead of it and say I was scummy for pushing eevee all game but "failing to get him lynched".  Scum scum scum scum scum!

[Witherweaver]

On those reactions I think scummiest to towniest  is Robz > Calamitas > McMc > Space.

[mcmcsalot]

I mean those responses to eevee's slip fit pretty exactly with me reads. Super glad lalight got killed so we can be even more sure robz and cal are remaining scum.

[Calamitas]

Robz, do you want to lynch for any specific reason besides lynchpool reduction? Because that doesn't apply here.

Can you reword or explain this?

Usually you want to no-lynch here to force mafia to kill and reach a better chance to hit scum the day after. That doesn't apply here though (because of our vig).  So I wanted to ask whether you have any other reasons to be in favor of no-lynch here.

What does the Vig have to do with it?

Scum knows who the vig is (since we would otherwise have had a nk) and could take him out tonight. A claimed vig would be an IC so we wouldn't gain a smaller lynchpool in contrast to have the vig claim. And the latter scenario gives us the advantage of an additional kill if we manage to lynch the scum-rb.

[Witherweaver]

We did have a NK?

[Calamitas]

We did have a NK?

An additional one due to the vig I meant.

[Witherweaver]

We did have a NK?

An additional one due to the vig I meant.

I think LaLight might have been a Vig kill.

[SpaceAnemone]

I mean those responses to eevee's slip fit pretty exactly with me reads. Super glad lalight got killed so we can be even more sure robz and cal are remaining scum.

We should take care with that, though.. if everything seems to add up really well and Calamitas is around, I've seen enough in previous games to be highly suspicious. And Robz played really well as scum before, so why is he looking super-scummy now? The only thing that makes me particularly want to vote him is that he came into our previous day looking super-scummy and talking about claiming before other events kicked off, so I don't quite think it fits with the "being framed by Eevee" narrative he's presenting now.