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[ashersky]

Okay, I've held off for as long as I felt comfortable with this, and I think we got some good interactions to analyze.

I am a Tracker.  I tracked mcmc last night; he targeted nkirbit.

I've been pressing so hard on mcmc because I did in fact know he's scum.  I tried my best to get you all the see it without having to claim, since now I'm dead tonight (unless there's a doc, and please if there is, save me so I can report another track tomorrow).  I hinted as much to this effect all over the place, probably too obvious for scum anyway.

Some other things to note: don't ask me about the flavor stuff (role names and all that), I am not talking about it, per the rules of this game.  I thought about this for a long time, and the only way my result is wrong is (I think) if there's a Bus Driver.  So I guess, if there is a Bus Driver AND you Drove mcmc with someone, a claim could be in order.  Otherwise, we should just lynch mcmc.

I tracked mcmc because I believed from the get go he was a good option for people to choose as a partner and he was strangely inactive most of D1 and especially near the end.

Now, let's lynch mcmc to ensure no mislynch.  I asked my question in case there was something I was missing about possibly trying to lynch a partner today, putting my result out there in twilight, then lynching mcmc tomorrow.  I think it is too risky, and so I'm claiming now instead.

yay ash is scum not true!

Wow.  Really compelling response there.  I guess there's not much more you can say anyway.

I think we're good to lynch now.

[mcmcsalot]

Okay so no way I am claiming anything and you should all understand this is a scum tactic from ash, he is scum I think liopoil likely his partner. He claimed so I am a mislynch and he is lynched tomorow but hopes to let the rest of his team win.

[spiritbears]

Mc-- even if you are scum, don't you think this warrants a full response? I'm surprised you would give up so easily.

[spiritbears]

Just a thought, that maybe someone that reads back can check on but what nkrbt was saying about mc when he was nk'd.  I mean does it make sense that mc would target him (if we believe ash, and for now I do)

[spiritbears]

That came out funny. 
What did nk have to say about mc prior to getting nk
Eas he on mc's trail or someone else?

[mcmcsalot]

what do you want me to respond with, I have said why I think ash is scum already. I will not counter claim anything other than I did not target nk last night. 100% certain ash is scum. vote:ash you think tracker tracked the one scum that did the nk night 1. Also why in the world track me I was gone for like the entire second half of the day. I mean I think if you lynch me you can still win, ash/liopoil/xieron are probably the scum team. But since I already thought that it makes m worried, why would ash claim. I didn't seem like town was really going to listen to me.

[mcmcsalot]

Also I would like to not be within quickhammering range of scum.

[Robz888]

Uh, yeah, ash is definitely not lying. Fine to hammer mcmc at any point.

Good work ash, let's read back and look for mcmc partners during night.

[spiritbears]

Uh, yeah, ash is definitely not lying. Fine to hammer mcmc at any point.

Good work ash, let's read back and look for mcmc partners during night.

Then we need eevee/lio or you to get back on board and vote

[ashersky]

Vote Count 2.7
mcmcsalot (4): ashersky, mail-mi, xeiron, spiritbears
liopoil (1): mcmcsalot
xeiron (1): yuma
mail-mi (1): AHoppy

Not voting: Robz888, Eevee

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline is 8pm forum time on Saturday, June 8th

Here's the latest.  Liopoil isn't listed, but he's under the "Not voting" category, I believe.

[Robz888]

Vote: mcmc

[spiritbears]

VoI e Count 2.7
mcmcsalot (4): ashersky, mail-mi, xeiron, spiritbears
liopoil (1): mcmcsalot
xeiron (1): yuma
mail-mi (1): AHoppy

Not voting: Robz888, Eevee

With 10 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch
Deadline is 8pm forum time on Saturday, June 8th

Here's the latest.  Liopoil isn't listed, but he's under the "Not voting" category, I believe.

I believe eevee unvoted to appease lio. But now that robz has weighed in they should both be fine with revoting. I do wish yuma had weighed in more (or at all since ash claim???) i know not everyone reads him as towny as I do, but he's an important voice nonetheless.

[spiritbears]

Vote: mcmc

L-1?

Jesus. How come you guys are all up this late???

[ashersky]

Vote: mcmc

L-1?

Jesus. How come you guys are all up this late???

It's 5 p.m. here.

[spiritbears]

Yah forgot you were on Aussie time. For robz though this must be middle of the night.

[Robz888]

Yah forgot you were on Aussie time. For robz though this must be middle of the night.

It is. I stay up late.

[mail-mi]

I am sososososo sorry all the Internet is crappy in the hotel and this is the first time I've actually been able to see the forums so sorry I'll catch up when (if) I can.

[Eevee]

so lets not lynch mcmc until we hear from mailmi. great to have you back!

[ashersky]

so lets not lynch mcmc until we hear from mailmi. great to have you back!

Input would be good.  I don't think it is worth delaying days for, though.

Mail-mi is the biggest wildcard I think, given he's been VLA for so long.

[yuma]

Wow. The one time I have a late night and am unable to be online the thread absolutely explodes.

I see ash's claim and I am in a dilemma. Ugh... I have a piece of knowledge that I think makes ash's claim less likely to be true, but doesn't guarantee that it isn't and I don't know if I should reveal it or not.

I mean just typing this out implies that I have something worth revealing and is dangerous so maybe I should go ahead and say it, but at this juncture I am not so sure what to do. Give me a bit to think about it--weigh in if you want... although generally there is no one online when I am post this early in the morning.

[Eevee]

Well, if you only give us that much, there is not much we can do to help with your decision. I'm quite sure you should just decide it yourself and not ask for input that vaguely. I mean, if i was in your shoes, you'd be the guy I'd probably turn for advice, so..

Just weigh the pros and cons of claiming and make a decision. mcmc's reaction to Ash's claim didnt read towny to me at all. I'm very much believing Ash at this point.

[ashersky]

Wow. The one time I have a late night and am unable to be online the thread absolutely explodes.

I see ash's claim and I am in a dilemma. Ugh... I have a piece of knowledge that I think makes ash's claim less likely to be true, but doesn't guarantee that it isn't and I don't know if I should reveal it or not.

I mean just typing this out implies that I have something worth revealing and is dangerous so maybe I should go ahead and say it, but at this juncture I am not so sure what to do. Give me a bit to think about it--weigh in if you want... although generally there is no one online when I am post this early in the morning.

You think I'm lying, or you think I'm wrong?  I think the only wrench in this could be a bus driver...so if that's you, and you targeted mcmc, then you should probably claim before we mislynch here.

But barring that, I don't see how you can clear mcmc.

Side note -- I think a bus driver would be scum in this game...so they probably let this mislynch go through.  But I think that's a very unlikely scenario.

[ashersky]

Look, I know what I know.  I am not lying, I got a result that mcmc targeted nkirbit.  Nkirbit died in the night.  Mcmc has since claimed to not have targeted him at all, so there is no explanation other than he is caught scum.

To me, no other town PRs should be claiming today.

[ashersky]

Well, if you only give us that much, there is not much we can do to help with your decision. I'm quite sure you should just decide it yourself and not ask for input that vaguely. I mean, if i was in your shoes, you'd be the guy I'd probably turn for advice, so..

Just weigh the pros and cons of claiming and make a decision. mcmc's reaction to Ash's claim didnt read towny to me at all. I'm very much believing Ash at this point.

I mean, yes, make your own decision.  I do think that is best.  It's why I decided to wait before claiming, but in the end coming forward was the right move for town today.

[Eevee]

Look, I know what I know.  I am not lying, I got a result that mcmc targeted nkirbit.  Nkirbit died in the night.  Mcmc has since claimed to not have targeted him at all, so there is no explanation other than he is caught scum.

To me, no other town PRs should be claiming today.

This is what it boils down to. It would take something like a cop result for me to believe mcmc over Ash at this point.