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[Witherweaver]

Teproc on Hydrad, which may be relevant:

Just someone who isn't yuma or Awaclus or faust or ADK or Teproc

What makes Hydrad a better choice than Awaclus ? Or anyone else who isn't ADK for that matter, why are these options bad ?

I guess the "faust is obvious part" is that you don't lynch faust on day 1 ?

I have no such qualms, but I get that. Actually I think I agree... not about never lycnhing faust d1, but about this :

vote: Hydrad

Everyone else is townie, so why not. Also his Awaclus vote is lazy and unconsequential.

I have notice things to say though.

What does this mean ?

@faust : You're right, actually. I guess it should probably indicate that scum is among people for whom lurking is unusual. So... WW ? Still like Hydrad though.

@yuma : When I'm arguing with you, my goal is not for you to say I'm right. If you feel like the conversation is going nowhere, just move on. I should probably do this more as well, let things lie. These things are subjective (well even more here where there's the issue of unknown alignments/sincerity, but this also goes for the other arguments we've been in recently), it's fine if we just disagree.

It should be obvious but : I don't think you're an idiot, and I hope you don't think I'm not giving weight to what you say. It's just that we disagree a lot, and I'm fine with that, it would be pretty boring if everyone always agreed on anything.

It had gone a bit too far lately though, and I think we're all tired of it. You, me, faust, everyone else in the game looking at this and apparently not really wanting to get involved (or just being busy I guess). It's obviously making this game less fun for both of us at the very least.

So... I think we should generally try to be less aggressive with each other, and try not to be snappy and use language we know will get others riled up.

Now that this is out of the way... let's lynch Hydrad. Always fun.

I do think Hydrad not getting any reads of the whole faust/yuma/me thing is scummy, by the way.

Well, Hydrad is at at most 2 votes through all of this, so scum!Teproc could think it's never going to take off.  It's a possible bus but probably not likely.

Ampharos ended up on Hydrad too, right?

[Witherweaver]

Awaclus is probably town cause he's so impossibly scummy.

I'm going to put this on the record now so you can point to it later: Gkrieg is scum.

Haha, good call.

[2.71828.....]

No, Ampharos was off wagon.

Final Day 1 Vote Count

Do you think because you are virtuous, that there shall be no more cakes and ale?

2.7 (1): EgorK
Awaclus (1): Ampharos
Ampharos (1): Lekkit
RR (2): SS, Awaclus
Hydrad (7): gkrieg13, chairs, faust, ADK, 2.7, RR, WW
gkrieg13 (1): Hydrad

Not Voting (0):

With 13 players alive, it took 7 to lynch.

[Witherweaver]

Actually I was wrong.  First thing Ampharos does is gets off Hydrad and onto Awaclus.  Then a lot of nothing, says almost nothing about Hydrad.

It seems much more plausible than how I remembered it.

[Witherweaver]

In other news, this:

Well uh. Let's make the stuff happen as long as I am actually around to react to it.

Vote: Hydrad L-1

does not garner as many town points as people would say.  It betrays some willingness to get off of the wagon at some point, as if he's expecting the need to. 

[Witherweaver]

Also, at one point RR says  "If Hydrad is town, can we lynch you?"  While a scummy thing to say, it's not quite so scummy when the subject there is scum himself.  So a little less on scum!RR.

[A Drowned Kernel]

I did a sort of skimmy reread. RR does come off looking super scummy, and I'm definitely buying into the Amph lynch.

Howzabout vote: Ampharos

[Roadrunner7671]

I did a sort of skimmy reread. RR does come off looking super scummy, and I'm definitely buying into the Amph lynch.

Howzabout vote: Ampharos

'RR is scummy, so let me vote for the guy he's been tunneling forever!'

[silverspawn]

I did a sort of skimmy reread. RR does come off looking super scummy, and I'm definitely buying into the Amph lynch.

Howzabout vote: Ampharos

'RR is scummy, so let me vote for the guy he's been tunneling forever!'

I think if you were scum, that might actually make Amph more likely to also be scum. You're not generally good at persuading people, so you can push your partner really hard, most people will probably not follow you, and when he does get lynched anyway, you get a ton of town cred.

[A Drowned Kernel]

You could easily be partners. And amph was off-wagon, so I like that better.

[chairs]

I can buy that.

vote: ampharos

[Roadrunner7671]

Vote: Ampharos
This is a good thing.

[Witherweaver]

I'll bite

Vote: Ampharos

That is 5 votes, so L-1.

[silverspawn]

wow. interesting.

[Roadrunner7671]

Unvote
Let's hear from him!

[Awaclus]

Unvote
Let's hear from him!

Why unvote?

[Witherweaver]

Yeah, that'll pressure him into talking.

[silverspawn]

Unvote
Let's hear from him!

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[silverspawn]

hey don't quicklynch my partner!

[Roadrunner7671]

hey don't quicklynch my partner!

Fine, let's quicklynch him. Just like I did to Yuma in Making Fun: then he quite Mafia for a while. Let's do that.

[A Drowned Kernel]

hey don't quicklynch my partner!

Fine, let's quicklynch him. Just like I did to Yuma in Making Fun: then he quite Mafia for a while. Let's do that.

You mean when we hit scum?

[Roadrunner7671]

hey don't quicklynch my partner!

Fine, let's quicklynch him. Just like I did to Yuma in Making Fun: then he quite Mafia for a while. Let's do that.

You mean when we hit scum?

Doesn't mean it wasn't still a bad play. But whatever, guys. I want what's best for the town.
Vote: Amaphoros

[2.71828.....]

So WW made post that shows good evidence that teproc (ampharos) is not hydrad's partner. He then proceeds to vote ampharos when it gets more momentum.

Scum is desperate

Vote: WW

[silverspawn]

ohhhh right. I didn't want to vote for Amph because he replaced Teproc. I forgot that.

[Witherweaver]

So WW made post that shows good evidence that teproc (ampharos) is not hydrad's partner. He then proceeds to vote ampharos when it gets more momentum.

Scum is desperate

Vote: WW

Dd you read what I said?