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[gkrieg13]

@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?

[mail-mi]

I like the hydrad wagon. Sorry I haven't been on more, life has gotten busy

[Twistedarcher]

unvote . i missed the timing on gkrieg's claim, which i realize after he clarified. on mobile the next couple of days

How likely do you think 7 VTs in this setup is?
and what about Hydrad's claim?

I don't think I see a problem with that many VTs. I don't have a guess as to how many there would be, any guess just seems kinda arbitrary. I'd guess one is false just because of the difficulty of good fake claims, not the number.

I'd rather lynch mail-Mi than hydrad. Hydrad sheeps as town but I don't know how likely he is to bus E at a key point on that wagon.

[gkrieg13]

unvote . i missed the timing on gkrieg's claim, which i realize after he clarified. on mobile the next couple of days

How likely do you think 7 VTs in this setup is?
and what about Hydrad's claim?

I don't think I see a problem with that many VTs. I don't have a guess as to how many there would be, any guess just seems kinda arbitrary. I'd guess one is false just because of the difficulty of good fake claims, not the number.

I'd rather lynch mail-Mi than hydrad. Hydrad sheeps as town but I don't know how likely he is to bus E at a key point on that wagon.

If the VTs aren't scum, who is then?

[mail-mi]

unvote . i missed the timing on gkrieg's claim, which i realize after he clarified. on mobile the next couple of days

How likely do you think 7 VTs in this setup is?
and what about Hydrad's claim?

I don't think I see a problem with that many VTs. I don't have a guess as to how many there would be, any guess just seems kinda arbitrary. I'd guess one is false just because of the difficulty of good fake claims, not the number.

I'd rather lynch mail-Mi than hydrad. Hydrad sheeps as town but I don't know how likely he is to bus E at a key point on that wagon.

Why? I'm lurking because life is busy.

[chairs]

@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?

This is actually why I'm sure a specific line in my role indicates multiple kill causes

[Ichimaru Gin]

Hmm. I'd like to hear a bit more from Hydrad. I don't think he's particularly townie, but he's just so easy to mislynch.

[gkrieg13]

Hmm. I'd like to hear a bit more from Hydrad. I don't think he's particularly townie, but he's just so easy to mislynch.

Agreed.  Who do you think is scum?

[Ichimaru Gin]

I recall almost nothing of note about hockey...so that's bad. WW can be pretty devious, so there's always a check I have about him.
EFHW seemed a bit like she was buddying me at the end of this last day, so I'm a bit wary of anyone doing the same.

Other than that, I should probably reread, keeping in mind the flips we've had and the claims now. I know there was that thing with TA's claim about not targeting anyone N3 was it? But now he says he did target someone. And yeah looking back, WW pointed it out, but it looks like he never responded. That's notable.

[gkrieg13]

I recall almost nothing of note about hockey...so that's bad. WW can be pretty devious, so there's always a check I have about him.
EFHW seemed a bit like she was buddying me at the end of this last day, so I'm a bit wary of anyone doing the same.

Other than that, I should probably reread, keeping in mind the flips we've had and the claims now. I know there was that thing with TA's claim about not targeting anyone N3 was it? But now he says he did target someone. And yeah looking back, WW pointed it out, but it looks like he never responded. That's notable.

I think that's the main argument against him.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Yeah. I hadn't seen people say more about it after he didn't reply to WW's post though. But I don't think it's a point in his favor.

[gkrieg13]

@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?

This is actually why I'm sure a specific line in my role indicates multiple kill causes

Ya I think the allomantic power kills with a coin.

[chairs]

@chairs why do you think your N2 doctoring of UoS didn't work?

This is actually why I'm sure a specific line in my role indicates multiple kill causes

Ya I think the allomantic power kills with a coin.

Yeah, but N2 wasn't a coin kill, right? I'm beginning to wonder if I'm a... what's the variant of doctor where you're not told that you're actually basically a VT (because your doc ability is useless)? Anyway, that.

[mail-mi]

I like the TA case. Sorry I can't say more, busy busy busy ugh.

[ashersky]

Vote Count 5.7:

Seprix (1): Hydrad
TwistedArcher (2): Seprix, Witherweaver
Hydrad (3): gkrieg13, chairs, hockeysemlan

Not Voting (3): mail-mi, IG, TA

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 5 ends on August 8 at 2:00 a.m.

[Hydrad]

Hmm. I'd like to hear a bit more from Hydrad. I don't think he's particularly townie, but he's just so easy to mislynch.

Hmm ya sorry I've been getting more and more lurky in my games lately which isn't really helping me out either.

anyways ya I am still ok with seprix right now although it looks like its just me. On the amount of VTs it does seem a high amount for RMM but still can't be 100% sure that someone is lying.

Vote: TA For now though.

[Witherweaver]

Why do you want Seprix at all?

[Hydrad]

unvote If both TA and EFHW were burning metals...

vote: TA
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I didn't like this vote as his reasoning for it didn't feel right. thats part of it.

[Hydrad]

i'm good at quotes

[Seprix]

unvote If both TA and EFHW were burning metals...

vote: TA

I didn't like this vote as his reasoning for it didn't feel right. thats part of it.
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If Gkraig is telling the truth, then TA is scum. TA has also said his role is not burning metals.

[Seprix]

i too am also good at quotes

[Witherweaver]

unvote If both TA and EFHW were burning metals...

vote: TA

I didn't like this vote as his reasoning for it didn't feel right. thats part of it.

If Gkraig is telling the truth, then TA is scum. TA has also said his role is not burning metals.

No, I don't think this is the case.  Gkreig detected both EFHW and TA burning Iron.  Like I said before, Iron pulls metals towards the user:

http://mistborn.wikia.com/wiki/Iron

I think in this case it acts as a Lightning Rod of sorts, redirecting actions (or metal-related actions) towards the user.   I'm assuming it's a scum power.  Nevermind, I just found:

silverspawn - Survivor's Lurcher, killed Night 3.

Lurcher is exactly someone that burns Iron with Allomancy.  So, Night 3 Silver must have used his power and redirected stuff to him. 

[Witherweaver]

Nevertheless, TA claimed to not take an action and then claimed to take an action. 

[Hydrad]

I also told you on day 4 that I thought there had been a mass redirect.  That's because TA and EFHW returned the same result.  I just found EFHW's play as scummy.  I don't necessarily find TA's play as scummy at this point.

PPE:  They both were burning iron, the redirect metal, which would happen if someone was able to redirect from EFHW and TA to them.  Then I would see them as both burning iron.

even gkrieg doesn't suspect TA to much because of the metals.

[Seprix]

Okay? It still looks bad for TA. He either is scum for burning metal, or the low odds of SS using his ability on TA happens. I don't know if I'm using the phrase correctly, but Occham's Razor comes to my mind.