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[Voltaire]

Yeah, my POE system is shit. What a horrible D1 lynch it caused this game.

I'm being sarcastic here.

I know you to be one of the strongest town players in this whole forum, if not the strongest. And I don't think POE is shit, I'm just referencing my previous rash statement when I was angry at being targeted by it.

Don't worry, I know how frustrating it is to be caught as scum by POE (it's happened to me), and it's got to be even more frustrating when it happens as town. My playstyle happens to lend itself to being obv!town or obv!scum most of the time, so it doesn't happen to me as often.

[Voltaire]

my strongest town read got lynched. I wouldn't treat Robz/ash as IC's. I think IG is really towny. I'd investigate/lynch Egork unless a good reason not to comes up. that's all.

damn it. Why'd you have to have such townie reads?

Please everyone, let's kill Hydrad.

Can you expand on the first part? What about his reads here do you like?

[Ichimaru Gin]

my strongest town read got lynched. I wouldn't treat Robz/ash as IC's. I think IG is really towny. I'd investigate/lynch Egork unless a good reason not to comes up. that's all.

damn it. Why'd you have to have such townie reads?

Please everyone, let's kill Hydrad.

Can you expand on the first part? What about his reads here do you like?

They seem to line up with my reads (and the rest of who I see as town/IC's) almost perfectly. Considering that more though, this may actually be more scummy.

If silver flips scum, this is either an attempt at introducing some WIFOM, or we don't really have the number on who his partner(s) really are.

[Voltaire]

Do you still prefer Hydrad?

My comment about flip-flopping is because I can build narratives where all four off-wagon are scum and are partners with each other in pretty much every combination, which is why a piece of me really can't decide at all.

[Ichimaru Gin]

my strongest town read got lynched. I wouldn't treat Robz/ash as IC's. I think IG is really towny. I'd investigate/lynch Egork unless a good reason not to comes up. that's all.

damn it. Why'd you have to have such townie reads?

Please everyone, let's kill Hydrad.

Can you expand on the first part? What about his reads here do you like?

They seem to line up with my reads (and the rest of who I see as town/IC's) almost perfectly. Considering that more though, this may actually be more scummy.

If silver flips scum, this is either an attempt at introducing some WIFOM, or we don't really have the number on who his partner(s) really are.

Nevermind, missed the "wouldn't" in there.

I think it would make much more sense if he flipped town, and is suspicious of the other PR's and their results--in the same way that they are of them since it seems like there's just too many with similar powers. If he flips scum, I think that obviously makes ash look more legit.

PPE: 1

[Voltaire]

Vote Count 2.6

Hydrad (3): Ichimaru Gin, Silverspawn, Robz888
silverspawn (5): ashersky, EgorK, pacovf, Witherweaver, Hydrad
ashersky (1): XerxesPraelor

Not Voting (2): Teproc,Voltaire


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends September 28 at noon.

Assume scum!silver.

So silver's partner is bussing, even if it's pacovf. Plausible? Probable? Unlikely?

[Ichimaru Gin]

Do you still prefer Hydrad?

My comment about flip-flopping is because I can build narratives where all four off-wagon are scum and are partners with each other in pretty much every combination, which is why a piece of me really can't decide at all.

I do still prefer Hydrad. The case on silver is much more claimy related, while Hydrad's is pretty solid evidence that points to him being PPS's scumpartner.

Also, I have a little trouble seeing scum!silver continue to oppose PPS's lynch at the very end of D1. There's WIFOM there of course, but I know I wouldn't do it if my partner was going down.

PPE:

Vote Count 2.6

Hydrad (3): Ichimaru Gin, Silverspawn, Robz888
silverspawn (5): ashersky, EgorK, pacovf, Witherweaver, Hydrad
ashersky (1): XerxesPraelor

Not Voting (2): Teproc,Voltaire


With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 2 ends September 28 at noon.

Assume scum!silver.

So silver's partner is bussing, even if it's pacovf. Plausible? Probable? Unlikely?

I think probable. I see egorK as the most likely partner, but pacovf could be scum who has blended in really well.

[Voltaire]

Also, I have a little trouble seeing scum!silver continue to oppose PPS's lynch at the very end of D1. There's WIFOM there of course, but I know I wouldn't do it if my partner was going down.

I agree, but it wasn't inevitable.

Intent to hammer silver, like, soon.

[Robz888]

Also, I have a little trouble seeing scum!silver continue to oppose PPS's lynch at the very end of D1. There's WIFOM there of course, but I know I wouldn't do it if my partner was going down.

I agree, but it wasn't inevitable.

Intent to hammer silver, like, soon.

If Silver is scum, and his partner is a vet (i.e. Teproc), the partner is NOT busing, it's almost an auto-lose at this point. A new-ish partner might not have realized that he was in a must-prevent-death-of-partner-at-all-costs scenario, however.

I don't really think Silver is scum, however. If I'm not around tomorrow, keep in mind that Hydrad was my preference, and I'm most afraid of scum Teproc.

[Robz888]

And that ash, WW, Voltaire, and XP are all exceedingly likely to be town.

[Ichimaru Gin]

Might as well, I don't think there's much more to discuss today--and the house changing actions have been confirmed and all.

PPE: Robz

[Voltaire]

All these people who prefer Hydrad and are fine with me hammering silver (IG/Robz), is it that you're not convinced enough to change my mind, or that you think silver could be Hydrad's partner?

[Robz888]

All these people who prefer Hydrad and are fine with me hammering silver (IG/Robz), is it that you're not convinced enough to change my mind, or that you think silver could be Hydrad's partner?

Voltaire, I feel like you don't see my posts, or something? I've been arguing repeatedly that silver is not scum and should not be the lynch.

[Voltaire]

All these people who prefer Hydrad and are fine with me hammering silver (IG/Robz), is it that you're not convinced enough to change my mind, or that you think silver could be Hydrad's partner?

Voltaire, I feel like you don't see my posts, or something? I've been arguing repeatedly that silver is not scum and should not be the lynch.

I got more of a shrug then a "no you fool!" vibe from them, if that makes sense.

So I was reading into your intent and not your words. Thanks for being explicit and clearing that up.

[Robz888]

All these people who prefer Hydrad and are fine with me hammering silver (IG/Robz), is it that you're not convinced enough to change my mind, or that you think silver could be Hydrad's partner?

Voltaire, I feel like you don't see my posts, or something? I've been arguing repeatedly that silver is not scum and should not be the lynch.

I got more of a shrug then a "no you fool!" vibe from them, if that makes sense.

So I was reading into your intent and not your words. Thanks for being explicit and clearing that up.

I'm not confident enough to give it a "no you fool!", sure. I find his flailing townie, and I found how he's dying to be townie.

[Voltaire]

Yeah. vote: Hydrad

I feel like it's notable that EgorK has mostly lurked through all of this, which is why he's still up there for me.

[Voltaire]

I find his flailing townie, and I found how he's dying to be townie.

This is why I changed my mind, for those who like documentation for this sort of thing.

[Ichimaru Gin]

great! I'm already voting Hydrad,

So I think we just need two more votes.

[Hydrad]

ok I'm here for lunch and just read the last few pages.

I think I'm at L-2 and silver is L-1.

If you guys are split 50/50 I think silver is the slightly better lynch as if he does flip 1 shot cop XP is another IC. Where as you kill me. I flip town and then there isn't much info. I guess that one good thing here is at least there is 2 wagons going. I was worried at first that I would get lynched with no other candidates so you wouldn't be able to look at who was on the wagons very well.

[Robz888]

I find his flailing townie, and I found how he's dying to be townie.

This is why I changed my mind, for those who like documentation for this sort of thing.

Great. Yeah, if Silver is actually scum and we came this close to lynching him and then didn't... It will be unprecedented, I think. It just never happens. So I really do think he is town. I'm more sure he's town than I am that Hydrad is scum, but somebody has to be scum here.

[Witherweaver]

I don't know, my gut still says scum on Silverspawn.  I also think he in no means had a townie Day 1, and I find it odd that he keeps bringing that up as a defense.

[Hydrad]

I don't know, my gut still says scum on Silverspawn.  I also think he in no means had a townie Day 1, and I find it odd that he keeps bringing that up as a defense.

trust the gut! are you still rereading SS or have you given that up for now?

[Witherweaver]

I don't know, my gut still says scum on Silverspawn.  I also think he in no means had a townie Day 1, and I find it odd that he keeps bringing that up as a defense.

trust the gut! are you still rereading SS or have you given that up for now?

I don't quite have the time.  Maybe tomorrow.

[Teproc]

Well I like both lynches, but I disagree about your read on silver's dying posts. I feel like they're desperately trying to act as if he's okay with being lynched in the hope that we change our mind.

[Teproc]

@WW : he kinda had a townie day 1 though, especially if we compare it to Hydrad.

I don't know.