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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #125 on: February 20, 2022, 11:40:53 pm »

Turn 9:

Guess: Bubble
Clue: Sightseer
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #126 on: February 21, 2022, 06:06:55 am »

Challenge turn 9
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #127 on: February 21, 2022, 09:37:35 am »

What do people think about having no defined turn order like this, or having a fixed turn order? Fixed turn order would be a lot simpler and normal. Is that better?
I like this way. Leaves some flexibility if someone can't get back in a timely manner to take their turn.
Turn taking is more fair, though. So either way.

Let's keep it without a defined turn order for now. Wacky rather than fair.

I think it would be better to allow the final turn to be challenged, so maybe the game could end 24 hours after turn 15, instead of immediately. Give people a chance to decide what they want to risk in order to improve their final position.

The clue on the final turn really shouldn't be a clue for 3 (there are only 3 words left, so no way to indicate which one you're selecting!) But you might want to target either 1 or 2 words. So I'm thinking of saying we shouldn't give numbers for any of the clues. It's just understood that the first clue is for 2 words, the last is for 1 or 2, and the rest are for 3.

What if the final guess were automatically pre-challenged by no one in particular?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #128 on: February 21, 2022, 09:41:19 am »

I read the whole thread and I think I understand the rules, but I have no idea how to jump in. Do I need to grab a pen and paper and do the whole game so far in my head, or would I have all the info I need from the last two clues?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #129 on: February 21, 2022, 09:49:16 am »

What do people think about having no defined turn order like this, or having a fixed turn order? Fixed turn order would be a lot simpler and normal. Is that better?
I like this way. Leaves some flexibility if someone can't get back in a timely manner to take their turn.
Turn taking is more fair, though. So either way.

Let's keep it without a defined turn order for now. Wacky rather than fair.

I think it would be better to allow the final turn to be challenged, so maybe the game could end 24 hours after turn 15, instead of immediately. Give people a chance to decide what they want to risk in order to improve their final position.

The clue on the final turn really shouldn't be a clue for 3 (there are only 3 words left, so no way to indicate which one you're selecting!) But you might want to target either 1 or 2 words. So I'm thinking of saying we shouldn't give numbers for any of the clues. It's just understood that the first clue is for 2 words, the last is for 1 or 2, and the rest are for 3.

What if the final guess were automatically pre-challenged by no one in particular?

There is no way to challenge the words that are proposed on turn 15. When you challenge a clue, you are challenging the select/reject aspect of that clue. So if clue 15 is challenged (or pre-challenged), we're just asking which words were proposed by clue 14 and selected/rejected by the clue 15.

When someone gives clue 15, there are only 3 words remaining, 2 of which were proposed by clue 14.
So clue 15 could be for just 1 word (the selected one).
Or clue 15 could be for 2 words (the selected one and another, implying that the unclued word is rejected).
It is up to whoever is giving clue 15 to decide which they want to do, but they can't tell everyone which one they are doing; turn 15 is already easy enough!
Hence just a clue, and no number.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #130 on: February 21, 2022, 09:58:24 am »

I read the whole thread and I think I understand the rules, but I have no idea how to jump in. Do I need to grab a pen and paper and do the whole game so far in my head, or would I have all the info I need from the last two clues?
Thanks joth!! I am happy. :)

At this moment you would probably be wise to wait until EFHW posts her challenge results, before taking a turn.

For taking a turn, I think the primary thing to look at is the last two clues. I think the impact of previous clues is non-zero, but normally small enough to ignore. But what do I know, I am losing!
If you want to challenge an earlier clue then you would of course need to figure out what everyone was thinking, ever.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #131 on: February 21, 2022, 10:12:46 am »

After turn 9:

TEMPLEOLYMPUSPUMPKINRICE
KICKASHBUBBLEBOWL
SUGARJEWELERWHALEMILL
BLACKSMITHPOINTBENCHUNIVERSITY

Turn 1:
ZEUS
Turn 2:
Clue: Building
Turn 3:
Guess: TEMPLE
Clue: APPRENTICESHIP

Turn 4:
Guess: UNIVERSITY
Clue: DOMINION

Turn 5:
Guess: Blacksmith
Clue: Flour

Turn 6:
Guess: MILL
Clue: GRAINS

Turn 6 was challenged unsuccessfully by infangthief
Turn 7
Guess: Rice
Clue: Edible
Turn 8:
Guess: Sugar
Clue: Blow
Turn 9:
Guess: Bubble
Clue: Sightseer

Turn 9 was challenged by EFHW (results pending)

Scores (pending results of turn 9 challenge):
Swowl: 14
Galzria: 12
scolapasta: 11
EFHW: 10
infangthief: 10
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #132 on: February 21, 2022, 01:23:18 pm »

Challenge turn 9
So I just see in what I accepted and rejected from fangs clue, correct?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #133 on: February 21, 2022, 02:51:25 pm »

Challenge turn 9
So I just see in what I accepted and rejected from fangs clue, correct?
Yes, send EFHW a PM with that info.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #134 on: February 21, 2022, 09:16:23 pm »

k done.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #135 on: February 21, 2022, 09:38:18 pm »

Very different responses.

Fang
Selected: Jeweler
Rejected: Kick

Swowl
Accepted: Whale
Rejected: Bowl
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #136 on: February 21, 2022, 10:05:48 pm »

I actually can totally see how fang clued that though. MB. I was fenced about kick, but was always doing bowl over jeweler, so we had no hope :P
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #137 on: February 22, 2022, 03:19:03 am »

So... next player has to guess Whale.

Scores:
Swowl 12
Galzria 12
EFHW 12
scolapasta 11
infangthief 8
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #138 on: February 22, 2022, 07:50:14 am »

I hope I’m doing this right.

Guess: Whale
Clue: Flame
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #139 on: February 22, 2022, 09:09:58 am »

Cool. That was turn 10.
Turn 11 can be taken by anyone other than joth or Swowl.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #140 on: February 22, 2022, 11:02:01 am »

Turn 11
Guess: point
Clue: Sports
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #141 on: February 22, 2022, 11:15:46 am »

Challenge clue 10 (flame)
Joth and Swowl please PM me which words were selected/rejected by Joth.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #142 on: February 22, 2022, 11:23:18 am »

Ok, so I send one word that I was intending to clue with flame that was not clued the turn before and one word that I believe was clued the turn before that I was trying not to clue with flame?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #143 on: February 22, 2022, 11:31:29 am »

Ok, so I send one word that I was intending to clue with flame that was not clued the turn before and one word that I believe was clued the turn before that I was trying not to clue with flame?
Not quite.
Swowl was proposing 2 new words with his clue of Sightseer. (New as in not matching any of the Guesses up to and including turn 10.)
Those are the 2 words that you need to send.
Your clue (Flame) should be targetting one of those words and not the other. You need to say what both words are and which one of those is targetted by your clue.

Swowl is also doing the same, and you are hoping that both of you say the same two words, the same way round.

You clue should also be targetting 2 new words, but you don't say what those are.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #144 on: February 22, 2022, 11:32:33 am »

But how does the guess fit in? It should be one of the words he was proposing, right?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #145 on: February 22, 2022, 11:33:17 am »

But how does the guess fit in? It should be one of the words he was proposing, right?
Your guess on turn 10, or EFHW's guess on turn 11?
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #146 on: February 22, 2022, 11:35:07 am »

Either. Both. Ugh, I am not doing well understanding this game.
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #147 on: February 22, 2022, 11:45:03 am »

Either. Both. Ugh, I am not doing well understanding this game.
Sorry. It is complicated.
This is actually the first time anyone has challenged a clue from an earlier turn (not the most recent turn), so no-one has been through this yet.
I will try explaining...
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #148 on: February 22, 2022, 11:57:19 am »

Swowl's clue on turn 9 (Sightseer) was for Whale and 2 new words. (Normally we wouldn't really know that it was Whale, but this time it is known because of the previous challenge.)
You guessed Whale. Whale is now done with.

Now there are Swowl's 2 new words. Hopefully you have an idea what they are. You have selected one of them and rejected the other. Your clue (Flame) hopefully targets one and not the other (along with targetting 2 new words that we will ignore for now).

The simple thing is to stop thinking at that point and send me the words you selected and rejected.

Now the unchartered territory:
EFHW has now taken turn 11, guessing Point. So EFHW thinks that is the word that you selected. That may or may not be what you intended. It is up to you whether you let EFHW's guess influence you. Be aware that it may be influencing Swowl also.

Your aim should be to send a PM which matches Swowl's PM.

I hope I have explained this objectively. EFHW or anyone do add something if it makes it clearer!
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Re: Codename Select
« Reply #149 on: February 22, 2022, 11:57:53 am »

Such a simple game.

Maybe I had better go and hide.
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