Topic: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 7) (Read 269241 times)

liopoil · « **Reply #2425 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:37:24 pm »

you're suggesting that one of us lied about our roles. hmmm.

since I'm cleared now I didn't lie. I'm a real neighbor.

Ashersky is a real cop.

I guess one of mcmc/robz/Yuma/jimmmmm could have lied about their role.

We weren't terribly clear though..... and I really can see mcmc or robz having lied about their role. Let's wait for Jimmmmmm and Yuma.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2426 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:41:50 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 13, 2013, 04:37:24 pm

you're suggesting that one of us lied about our roles. hmmm.

since I'm cleared now I didn't lie. I'm a real neighbor.

Ashersky is a real cop.

I guess one of mcmc/robz/Yuma/jimmmmm could have lied about their role.

We weren't terribly clear though..... and I really can see mcmc or robz having lied about their role. Let's wait for Jimmmmmm and Yuma.

Okay, let's say I am scum roleblocker. I roleblocked yuma, so I can do my kill of someone other than yuma. I killed theorel... who Jimm didn't bother trying to save?

Or let's say I blocked jimm to prevent him from protecting theorel. Well, yuma's LR should have meant yuma takes the protection and the kill and lives. Unless there's two kills from still present multiple scum teams, and then yuma dies instead of theorel, which is still better.

I guess it's possible scum roleblocked yuma and some other scum killed the person jimm protected, which wasn't theorel for some reason he's going to have to explain.

liopoil · « **Reply #2427 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:47:56 pm »

maybe maquis did no kill, for two reasons:

1) to use their power. They are the only one left on the team, so they couldn't do both.
2) to make it look like they don't exist. I'm not totally sure what the benefit of this is, but it seems like it could be a reason.

Why is no lynching necessarily a bad idea?

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2428 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:57:35 pm »

There are three possibilities for why I didn't protect theorel:

1) I was roleblocked.
2) I had no shots left.
3) I was assuming yuma would LR and two scum kills would direct onto him, therefore using my only remaining shot was pointless, so I held onto it.

Do we really need me to say which one of these is true?

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2429 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:01:40 pm »

I would like to hear from yuma. Although claiming LR and offering to use it knowing full well that you can't seems like terrible scum play. I don't know. It's pretty clear that today's lynch should be one of yuma, Robz and mcmc. Maybe there's some compelling argument that would add ash to that list, but unlikely. At this stage I think it's most likely that every remaining scum is one of those three.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2430 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:17:37 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on February 13, 2013, 04:57:35 pm

There are three possibilities for why I didn't protect theorel:

1) I was roleblocked.
2) I had no shots left.
3) I was assuming yuma would LR and two scum kills would direct onto him, therefore using my only remaining shot was pointless, so I held onto it.

Do we really need me to say which one of these is true?

I'm just confused. I don't know which of these things is the case, do you think it's obvious? Or are you saying it's not obvious, but you think it's better if you don't say? You might be right about that, I guess. It's just a little suspect, given theorel dying. Though we know you aren't MU.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2431 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:19:42 pm »

If I have no shots left I want scum to think I do, so they maybe kill me instead of a cop or something, although that's less important today. If I do have shots left I want scum to think I don't, so it's more likely that I will use it effectively.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2432 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:24:59 pm »

Updated Living:

1. ashersky - Maquis Cop/Worf (Confirmed NOT MAQUIS)
2. Robz - 1-Shot Tracker/Kasida Yates
3. yuma - 1-shot Lightning Rod/Elim Garak
9. liopoil - Neighbor/Rom (Confirmed TOWN?)
10. mcmcsalot - Bomb/General Martok
11. Jimmmmm - Beloved Princess/Vadek Antos (Confirmed NOT MU)

Possible MU: ashersky, Robz, yuma, mcmcsalot

Possible Maquis: Robz, yuma, mcmsalot, Jimmmmm

Possibly both: Robz, yuma, mcmcsalot

liopoil · « **Reply #2433 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:28:55 pm »

I can't find jimmmmm's character on the site. When I searched Vadek Antos it only showed Bareil Antos and a planet named antos.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2434 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:30:48 pm »

The name I was given was Vedek Bareil Antos. I guess Vadek is a title or something.

Jimmmmm · « **Reply #2435 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:31:30 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on February 13, 2013, 05:30:48 pm

The name I was given was Vedek Bareil Antos. I guess Vaedek is a title or something.

FTFM

liopoil · « **Reply #2436 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:36:07 pm »

thanks. The only connection to beloved I can find is that his character was so popular that fans campaigned for him to come back to life on the show after he died...

liopoil · « **Reply #2437 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:38:05 pm »

Yuma had a brain implant which let him be able to bear lots of pain. The implant broke and was removed later. seems like this could represent the lightning rod...

liopoil · « **Reply #2438 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:39:12 pm »

robz, I think your role is kasidy yates, not kasida yates?

liopoil · « **Reply #2439 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:39:24 pm »

I mean flavor name.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2440 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:39:50 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 13, 2013, 05:39:12 pm

robz, I think your role is kasidy yates, not kasida yates?

It's Kasidy Yates.

But these things don't matter.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2441 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:41:13 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 13, 2013, 05:38:05 pm

Yuma had a brain implant which let him be able to bear lots of pain. The implant broke and was removed later. seems like this could represent the lightning rod...

Flavor doesn't relate to role I don't think. That's what Jo said at least. Right?

liopoil · « **Reply #2442 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:41:53 pm »

Jo didn't say that. and I feel like they do. mine did.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2443 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:45:12 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on February 13, 2013, 05:41:53 pm

Jo didn't say that. and I feel like they do. mine did.

Never mind. I mis-remembered.

liopoil · « **Reply #2444 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:52:46 pm »

mcmc is a Klingon. they're the type of person that would want to kill whoever killed them I'd think. then again, ash is a Klingon too.

ashersky · « **Reply #2445 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:57:26 pm »

Quote from: Jimmmmm on February 13, 2013, 05:24:59 pm

Updated Living:

1. ashersky - Maquis Cop/Worf (Confirmed NOT MAQUIS)
2. Robz - 1-Shot Tracker/Kasida Yates
3. yuma - 1-shot Lightning Rod/Elim Garak
9. liopoil - Neighbor/Rom (Confirmed TOWN?)
10. mcmcsalot - Bomb/General Martok
11. Jimmmmm - Beloved Princess/Vadek Antos (Confirmed NOT MU)

Possible MU: ashersky, Robz, yuma, mcmcsalot

Possible Maquis: Robz, yuma, mcmsalot, Jimmmmm

Possibly both: Robz, yuma, mcmcsalot

This looks right. Liopoil is confirmed town based on investigations by both me and Theo, right?

Robz888 · « **Reply #2446 on:** February 13, 2013, 05:57:39 pm »

yuma · « **Reply #2447 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:18:06 pm »

I used my LR last night, but as we can tell from theorel's death and ash's investigation it did not go through. From what I understand of the LR it can only be blocked if I am directly targeted with a block, such as a roleblocker or a jailkeep that prevents me from using the role. There is no roleblocker or Jk currently claimed--I think Glooble was roleblocker, but he is dead--So someone must be lying.

At this point I am just glad that we aren't at lylo right... 8 alive. So mislynching me--which is what I would do if I was in the position that you all are in--won't lose the game for town. This is why I don't like mass claims... it gives too much power to scum and allows them to manipulate night actions in a way that favors them. So you lynch me, 7 alive... Either 1 NK or 2 NKs. So 6 alive with 1 (2) scum or 5 alive with 2 (3) scum (assuming scum don't hit each other and assuming there are currently at most 2 scum total left alive, in parenthesis is three). That isn't a great place to be for town. So I would urge you to not lynch me, but I can totally understand why you would go through that vein.

I just ask that you allow me enough time to compile my reads and thoughts on the players so that you have at least that to look back on tomorrow. This may take a day or so to do.

ashersky · « **Reply #2448 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:23:27 pm »

mcmc should unvote. I'm not going to, because I want my vote to be somewhere while I'm on a plane.

liopoil · « **Reply #2449 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:51:45 pm »

Unvote if Yuma doesn't have a LR left we shouldn't no lynch.

Yuma there are only six of us. We are at Mylo, unless there are two teams, or only 4 scum.

Vote: Robz. I would also lynch mcmc.

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