Topic: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 7) (Read 269236 times)

Robz888 · « **Reply #2400 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:57:46 pm »

If you read my case, I mentioned the fact that I had a town read on Glooble throughout day 1 and day 2, and only turned against him after re-reading him on day 3 when I was tyring to decide between Glooble and liopoil. You'll note that we were at that point split between them, I re-read them both, and decided Glooble was narrowly scummier.

I don't fault liopoil for having a townread on Glooble. I fault him for having his two strongest reads being simultaneous, constant town reads on Munch/Glooble, both of whom he was wrong about, both of whom are on a scum team together.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2401 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:00:36 pm »

On a separate note, Dsell's excuses for his lurking, by the way, are absolute crap. He thought he had some duty to try and survive because he is Mr. Important PR? Please. Actual contributions are worth much, much more anyway. Instead we have nothing to go on because he's hugely lurked his way here.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2402 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:02:48 pm »

You know what, I'm fine with being lynched. Then yuma can LR, and we will have Jimm, mcmcsalot, Dsell, theorel, ashersky, and liopoil left. Then you guys can, you know, actually listen to me, and close out this game by lynching liopoil and then probably Dsell.

ashersky · « **Reply #2403 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:03:24 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on February 11, 2013, 11:00:36 pm

On a separate note, Dsell's excuses for his lurking, by the way, are absolute crap. He thought he had some duty to try and survive because he is Mr. Important PR? Please. Actual contributions are worth much, much more anyway. Instead we have nothing to go on because he's hugely lurked his way here.

This is a big point against Dsell, where my vote currently lies.

I think his actions overall have been scummier than Robz, who has been very townie and pro-town all game.

I will also again state how I was the ONLY person who refused to give him free IC status for his one liner at the beginning of the game. If I'm wrong and he's town, whatever, but he's no IC.

ashersky · « **Reply #2404 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:05:19 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on February 11, 2013, 11:02:48 pm

You know what, I'm fine with being lynched. Then yuma can LR, and we will have Jimm, mcmcsalot, Dsell, theorel, ashersky, and liopoil left. Then you guys can, you know, actually listen to me, and close out this game by lynching liopoil and then probably Dsell.

You are basically a named VT, right? I mean, no actions to take at night? If we're losing a townie today, that's better than a PR, right?

That's my argument for why Lio is still an okay lynch today, though. Worst thing that happens is we lose a neighbor with no neighbors, but who has been way less helpful than Robz888.

I offered myself up as a lynch, if you all fear I may be MU hiding behind the badge.

The plus to lynching Robz is he's one of the three who could be either scum faction.

Dsell · « **Reply #2405 on:** February 12, 2013, 01:24:54 am »

Robz is a bad lynch, at least for today. Come on people, Liopoil is a much better lynch.

Sorry if you think my reasons for lurking are bad. I am not going to try to defend them, they're not good reasons. But they are my reasons.

theorel · « **Reply #2406 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:14:51 am »

There are good reasons to lynch both Robz and Dsell.
I've come around to Dsell as a better lynch. Robz' arguments are bad (IMO), but I'm not convinced that they're scum-motivated. They feel more like Robz-bad reasons than scum-bad reasons.

Robz, if you think we should lynch Dsell after liopoil, then let's just lynch him NOW. I'm really only checking this thread periodically to see if the lynch is finished yet so we can get an alignment.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2407 on:** February 12, 2013, 07:34:41 am »

Quote from: theorel on February 12, 2013, 07:14:51 am

There are good reasons to lynch both Robz and Dsell.
I've come around to Dsell as a better lynch. Robz' arguments are bad (IMO), but I'm not convinced that they're scum-motivated. They feel more like Robz-bad reasons than scum-bad reasons.

Robz, if you think we should lynch Dsell after liopoil, then let's just lynch him NOW. I'm really only checking this thread periodically to see if the lynch is finished yet so we can get an alignment.

Well, I can't get enough support for liopoil without you, so if I'm really not going to change your mind, I guess I have no choice. Vote: Dsell

yuma · « **Reply #2408 on:** February 12, 2013, 08:10:00 am »

well if I can't get theorel on board, I'll go back to vote: dsell But in putting down my last thoughts I would urge to not lynch lio tomorrow. Instead look toward mcmc and Robz. I still think Jimmmm is scummy, but his role claim basically makes him unlynchable, which further makes him scummy as well. ash I don't know about. His willingness to offer himself up for lynch tomorrow makes me think he probably isn't scum, but the only way to find out is to take him up on the offer... but I find Robz or mcmc or even Jimmm to be more likely scum than him.

I think theorel is indicating that we are ready for a hammer, so lio or mcmc or Jimmmm now would be the time for it.

mcmcsalot · « **Reply #2409 on:** February 12, 2013, 08:29:39 am »

vote: dsell let's hope he's scum

jotheonah · « **Reply #2410 on:** February 12, 2013, 09:55:11 am »

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jotheonah · « **Reply #2411 on:** February 12, 2013, 10:01:28 am »

"Who's that new girl in the Starfleet uniform? We've never seen her before!" the few remaining denizens of the promenade grumble.
"She must be a mirror universe or a Maquis or a changeling or something!"
"Get her!"

"Noooooooo!" shouts Worf, but his cries are in vain. No sooner had his love resurrected in a new body then she was thrown out the airlock. This time there was no saving the symbiote.

Dsell has been lynched. He was Ezri Dax, the station-aligned 1-shot deathproof.

Vote Count 4.3

liopoil (1): Dsell
Dsell (5): ashersky, yuma, theorel, Robz888, mcmcsalot

Not Voting (2): Jimmmmm, liopoil

With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Night actions are due in 24 hours.
This is a change from the normal 48 hour deadline.

jotheonah · « **Reply #2412 on:** February 13, 2013, 09:24:52 am »

At this point, it's just getting predictable.

"Computer," says Captain Worf. "Analyze life sign scans against archived scans from last night. Who died?"

"Processing." says the computer. "Chief Miles Edward O'Brien's life signs are no longer registering."

A search of his quarters turns up, no body - he appears to have been vaporized. It's probably just as well he sent Keiko and the kids away on the last transport to Bajor. The search does turn up sealed orders from Admiral Ross containing a new way to configure a tricorder to scan for the quantum signature of the mirror universe.

Theorel has died. He was Chief Miles Edward O'Brien, the Station-aligned Mirror Universe Cop.

Day 5 begins. With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Not Voting (6): ashersky, yuma, Robz888, mcmcsalot, Jimmmmm, and liopoil

mcmcsalot · « **Reply #2413 on:** February 13, 2013, 09:46:05 am »

Okay, so last time both scum teams targeted the same person it was understandable through the flavor. This flavor does not suggest that but that means a scum team took no kill correct? If someone makes a nk and is killed that night does the night kill go through? Baisically could munch have been the last member of maquis and have made the kill the night he died.

Also do we think munch was actually the last member of that scum team when joth said that scum was too powerful. I think it's possible the last maquis member didnt kill someone in an attemp to not get lynched today, the person who would be worried about this is liopoil.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2414 on:** February 13, 2013, 10:52:11 am »

Yuma, why no LR?

Jim, why no doctoring of our confirmed townie cop?

mcmcsalot · « **Reply #2415 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:01:33 am »

Also Ash should probably let us know who he investigated.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2416 on:** February 13, 2013, 11:17:44 am »

But ash wasn't so much the important cop here; the important cop was theorel. And I'm not sure why he died. The one thing we certainly had the ability to do was keep theorel alive. Ahem, LR and doctor.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2417 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:41:43 pm »

Where the hell is everybody?

ashersky · « **Reply #2418 on:** February 13, 2013, 02:31:37 pm »

Lio is cleared.

I'm good with a vote: Yuma.

As theo said yesterday, no LR means scum!yuma.

mcmcsalot · « **Reply #2419 on:** February 13, 2013, 02:54:45 pm »

vote: yuma makes sense to me, I think we were pretty clear he should LR no matter what.

liopoil · « **Reply #2420 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:01:21 pm »

If we have two MU we are at mylo now. So basically if jimmmmm-robz is the MU scumteam they just won.

let's wait for Yuma to talk.

flavor indicates that either Jimmmmm successfully saved someone or there is only one team. Jimmmm, who did you save?

Vote: no lynch

We demand that Yuma LR tonight after not lynching. If he doesn't do it we kill him tomorrow, and got a 1-1 trade with scum. If he does LR then it's like we lynched him but got to skip night.

We pretty much get a double day. If Yuma is town we lynch a townie and someone else. If Yuma is scum we lynch someone of scum choice (night), but get scum the next day.

besides, at Mylo it is often a good idea to no lynch anyway right? decrease number needed to lynch and the number of suspects.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2421 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:17:59 pm »

Okay, everybody hold on. Let's stop running our mouths about what yuma and Jim did or didn't do until they explain it themselves.

ashersky · « **Reply #2422 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:20:54 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on February 13, 2013, 04:17:59 pm

Okay, everybody hold on. Let's stop running our mouths about what yuma and Jim did or didn't do until they explain it themselves.

I got a result on Liopoil that he is NOT maquis. That means no LR last night. That means yuma lied, or was roleblocked, but really, who's the roleblocker then?

You could be, and you blocked mcmc and claimed he did nothing when you tracked him.
Jimmmmm could be, and is just flat out lying.

Neither of those sound right.

Quote from: liopoil on February 13, 2013, 04:01:21 pm

If we have two MU we are at mylo now. So basically if jimmmmm-robz is the MU scumteam they just won.

let's wait for Yuma to talk.

flavor indicates that either Jimmmmm successfully saved someone or there is only one team. Jimmmm, who did you save?

Vote: no lynch

We demand that Yuma LR tonight after not lynching. If he doesn't do it we kill him tomorrow, and got a 1-1 trade with scum. If he does LR then it's like we lynched him but got to skip night.

We pretty much get a double day. If Yuma is town we lynch a townie and someone else. If Yuma is scum we lynch someone of scum choice (night), but get scum the next day.

besides, at Mylo it is often a good idea to no lynch anyway right? decrease number needed to lynch and the number of suspects.

No no lynch. That's bad.

What you are saying about yuma is what we said last night.

Best guess on 1 kill? They both chose to kill IC. Second best guess? If there is a roleblocker, he's all that's left on his team, and he used it instead of killing last night.

ashersky · « **Reply #2423 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:21:31 pm »

So the gamble is "roleblocker or yuma lied." It wasn't a redirect, since I investigated my actual target.

Robz888 · « **Reply #2424 on:** February 13, 2013, 04:33:41 pm »

Ash, I think you're right, I'd just like to hear what yuma/Jimm have to say for themselves.

I'm particularly annoyed that our IC died, when either doctor protection or LR should have protected him. If either/both had performed optimally from town perspective, theorel should have lived.

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