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[Robz888]

Aslo, one of the above was one-shot bulletproof.

And if we know who that person is, we can rule them out as... Galz's buddy, right? Because Galz's buddy (or buddies) shot Munch.

Wait, no, I got that backward.

Galzbuddy shot Munch. Munchbuddy shot BP guy. So BP guy can't be Munch's fellow scum.

[ashersky]

Also, I think scum is absolutely done scumhunting at this point and will push for mislynches of town.

They'll killed whoever they think is scum at night.  They need town to be smaller at this point.

[ashersky]

Aslo, one of the above was one-shot bulletproof.

And if we know who that person is, we can rule them out as... Galz's buddy, right? Because Galz's buddy (or buddies) shot Munch.

Wait, no, I got that backward.

Galzbuddy shot Munch. Munchbuddy shot BP guy. So BP guy can't be Munch's fellow scum.

Right.  Munchbuddy, or Munch, shot Deathproof.

[ashersky]

Theorel, do not waste your investigation on me.  I agree today to be the lynch tomorrow if you haven't found scum.

I am station-aligned, but I think we're far enough ahead that we can afford to mislynch me tomorrow.  As I've agreed to be the lynch for tomorrow if you don't catch scum tonight, I think that's fair enough to have you investigate someone else.

I think Jimmmmm or Robz (scum tracker works) make the most sense to be Galz's partner(s).

[ashersky]

Theorel, do not waste your investigation on me.  I agree today to be the lynch tomorrow if you haven't found scum.

I am station-aligned, but I think we're far enough ahead that we can afford to mislynch me tomorrow.  As I've agreed to be the lynch for tomorrow if you don't catch scum tonight, I think that's fair enough to have you investigate someone else.

I think Jimmmmm or Robz (scum tracker works) make the most sense to be Galz's partner(s).

That said, I've had a town read on Robz all game.

[Robz888]

Are we continuing the mass claim? Are the cops claiming? I'm actively unsure what's best. But very confident in the liopoil lynch.

[Robz888]

Well, if we do lynch liopoil, we will know which cop is which anyway.

[ashersky]

Are we continuing the mass claim? Are the cops claiming? I'm actively unsure what's best. But very confident in the liopoil lynch.

As a cop, I say no.  If lio is scum, you'll all know anyway, and that's fine, because we caught scum through mad scumhunting.

Like I said, if Theo doesn't catch scum tonight with his investigation, and you all think I'm scum, you can mislynch me and town will still be in great shape.  If one or both of us don't die tonight anyway.

Anyone with protection powers, protect Theo.  He's the confirmed town one.  Unless you are JK...then JK me?

[mcmcsalot]

do we want dsell and yuma to claim?

[ashersky]

do we want dsell and yuma to claim?

I guess?  Do we really care?  If they have useful town powers, I say let them stay silent.  If they are scum, we'll get them anyway.

[liopoil]

That's not exactly directing town is it? It's stating that I am going to claim after the other cop claims. We had already decided that the cops should claim...

I clearly meant once everyone claims not-cop.

I thought it was really obvious that I pretty much HAD to be town. It actually says in my PM that we are all confirmed non-members of the mirror-universe to each other. You are right that it is not confirmable. However it does explain munch's humongous town read on me. He knew I was town. Scum do not generally say that they are 100% against the lynch of their partner, even though they are. I had a townread on munch in game.

it would likely be counterclaimed! If I claimed neighbor when I wasn't then the real remaining neighbor would claim and say that I was not part of the neighborhood.

galz being killed confirmed the existence of the MU. since munch was maquis and we were confirmed non-members of the MU he knew I had to be town.

the odds of there being a third maquis is less than 50-50. Assuming there are 4-5 scum. if there is 5 then there is  50% chance of the maquis being the team with three. Factor in the chance that there is only 4 and it is less than 50.

I thought bussing was contributing to your partners lynch. I guess that isn't what it is. Regardless, as I have said, if I was partners with glooble I would have hopped on the ashersky wagon early in D3 and then later when the wagon went away I would try to push a lynch on someone else.

I am not! robz first suggested it. Plus if I am scum I already know which cop theorel is, and therefore ash as well. Plus I would very much like it if theorel was the maquis cop

PPE: 17. dang it is busy...

[jotheonah]

I can't promise I'll be able to check in for the rest of the evening, so if you have a lynch you may have a long twilight ahead of you.

[mcmcsalot]

could we get a vote count?

[liopoil]

am I allowed to give you guys the QT? probably not I assume. especially because joth unlocked it for me to talk to myself, and I wouldn't be talking to myself if other people in the game can see it.

[Robz888]

it would likely be counterclaimed! If I claimed neighbor when I wasn't then the real remaining neighbor would claim and say that I was not part of the neighborhood.

If you are Munch's partner--which is what I suspect--you know the exact composition of the neighborhood, so you would know that you risk no counterclaim.

If you're Munch's partner... it doesn't matter whether you're a neighbor or not. I assume Munch shared the neighborhood info with his fellow scum to the extent that Glooble and whoever else were effectively part of the neighborhood (that goes double if he was permitted to post the qt link).

[Robz888]

am I allowed to give you guys the QT? probably not I assume. especially because joth unlocked it for me to talk to myself, and I wouldn't be talking to myself if other people in the game can see it.

Ask Jo.

[Robz888]

You have to PM him in private. And then tell us (without quoting!) what he said.

Although I assume if you were actually one of thw neighbors you would have cleared this with him 5 seconds into day 1.

[liopoil]

This is true, but in that case there would have to be only two people in the neighborhood. I find this unlikely in a 15 player game.

[liopoil]

Munch's reads as of last night. Of course, these can't necessarily be trusted:

"Ash/Robz/Mcmc - scum reads. Some subset of them.
You're a town read, Yuma is a town read. Dsell is interesting but I guess I put him at town. Theroel is someone I'm having hard time reading cause hes mostly theory so neutral. Jimmm is slight scum read for me right now but I couldn't tell you why.
Dsell has gotten away with way less contribution this game. At least my reads are known for the most part if I die tonight."

The main things that raerae said:

"Also, thoughts on this, Jimmmmmm claimed he'd hammer twice and didn't once then had to be yelled into it. Fake hesitation to seem more towny after the flip or sincere hesitation at not being truly sold on the lynch?Any or all of us could still be scum, right? Lio, if it's you, super props because you are towntastic right now. You've done great and only confused me once or twice then quickly cleared up the confusion with either a f/u post or an answer to a question somebody else posted.

It is a bummer cuzz was town but dang, that man was shady! I probably would have been off him and back to Jimmmmmm if he'd just answered my damn question and given a read or two right away instead of avoiding it all together. Ugh, oh well, what's done is done and I think, of the three of us, I'm probably looking most scummy right now.I have no idea what could even be salvaged from that. I am concerned that ash was willing to let his strongest scumread survive the day without too much of a fuss. Still kind of think he's town regardless of his flip flopping at the end of the day but if I end up dead tomorrow I'd be suspicious of him as either vig (if that's possible) or SK.

Copied and pasted from the QT. Joth said I could.

[Robz888]

Okay, well you've certainly proved you have access to raerae's neighbor thoughts. I don't think that tells us very much about your alignment, though.

[Robz888]

You know, I'm forgetting that it has to be Galz's team, not Munch's team, that shot raerae. Because Munch's team definitely shot Galz (barring, weird, weird edge cases relating to crazy powers).

[Robz888]

Not that that really matters, but it can't be the case that like Munch and liopoil killed raerae because she was in a neighborhood with them.

[liopoil]

I'm sure that munch could have NKed me if he wanted to.

Oh, and this supports me not being MU. if I was MU then I shot munch and raerae. pretty dumb huh?

[liopoil]

joth says I can't post the link.

[Robz888]

I'm sure that munch could have NKed me if he wanted to.

Oh, and this supports me not being MU. if I was MU then I shot munch and raerae. pretty dumb huh?

Well, I think the case suggestes you are maquis, not MU. But I don't think it's particularly stupid to kill off your co-neighbors even if you are mu. I guess you risk munch coming after you on day 2?