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[Robz888]

I do think the case against Glooble is better than the case against ashersky.

[liopoil]

so re-reading shraeye didn't do me much. I didn't read his D1 because I know he was all cuzz, and any other reads he had then were probably outdated. He didn't have any strong reads in D2... actually I don't think very may people did.

I've read Dsell's post over and over again and looked at the opening couple posts by joth trying to find a way that Dsell could be scum... but there isn't anything.

10 people left. four people, (munch, Dsell, mcmc, and myself) I have very good solid evidence to believe are town. that leaves six others, probably 3 of which are scum. At this point we really need to lynch scum, preferably wiping out a scum team.

Nobody has really analyzed theorel. I guess that's because he's really hard to get a read on. his posts are very helpful and his lynch would not be very informative.

Everyone seems to think robz is towny, and I'm starting to think so too. His claim was very pro-town, unless mcmc is his scummate, which seems unlikely.

that leaves Yuma, glooble, ash, and jimm. I'd like to lynch one of these four today.

PPE: 11 (I left this and just now finished it)

[Dsell]

I do think the case against Glooble is better than the case against ashersky.

I don't like the one or the other mentality. I just feel like it's really, really hard to distinguish between scumGlooble and townGlooble and we're not yet at the point where we can lynch those who aren't scummy but aren't super townie either. You know what I mean? Like at the end of your game, nobody was scummy (except ftl who was semi-scummily lurking) so we just started lynching people with the least town cred. We're not to that point yet here.

[ashersky]

I do think the case against Glooble is better than the case against ashersky.

I don't like the one or the other mentality. I just feel like it's really, really hard to distinguish between scumGlooble and townGlooble and we're not yet at the point where we can lynch those who aren't scummy but aren't super townie either. You know what I mean? Like at the end of your game, nobody was scummy (except ftl who was semi-scummily lurking) so we just started lynching people with the least town cred. We're not to that point yet here.

I think mcmcsalot is the scummiest seeming of those remaining.  Munch seems scummy, but his actions are town!munch to a T.

[liopoil]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I hate this mindset if you are town. We really, REALLY can't afford to be mislynching here. And simply being on your wagon will not get them enough scrutiny. I realize (if you are actually town) that you want everyone to know that you are town and can be trusted, but lynching you as town is not the best way for that to happen. Scumhunt, make cases, prove your towniness some other way. This post is hypocritical because I've hardly made cases or contributed to lynches, but so be it.

Agreed. If you are town ash you should do whatever you can to get us to not lynch you. even if your lynch is informative we could be at a point tomorrow where we have 3 scum, 4 town, and 2 teams. Odds for town are pretty slim at that point.

[ashersky]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I hate this mindset if you are town. We really, REALLY can't afford to be mislynching here. And simply being on your wagon will not get them enough scrutiny. I realize (if you are actually town) that you want everyone to know that you are town and can be trusted, but lynching you as town is not the best way for that to happen. Scumhunt, make cases, prove your towniness some other way. This post is hypocritical because I've hardly made cases or contributed to lynches, but so be it.

Agreed. If you are town ash you should do whatever you can to get us to not lynch you. even if your lynch is informative we could be at a point tomorrow where we have 3 scum, 4 town, and 2 teams. Odds for town are pretty slim at that point.

Other than giving my reads and opinions, and possibly claiming, what can I do?

I think theo is 33% townier than yesterday.  Robz remains town to me.  Dsell reads townier today, but that's probably just being more active.  Lio as well is townier.

Glooble and mcmcsalot are our best chances at hitting scum.

[Robz888]

You didn't mention Yuma.

[liopoil]

Well, you could stop asking us to lynch you for one...

[yuma]

Robz still feels a little townie to me, but...hmm...I'm starting to get suspicious of that behavior given his recent display of that behavior as scum (ZMX was it?).  Someone who was town in that game, does this feel similar to you?  (I just got it in passing as I skimmed the thread).

I wasn't in the game, but had a mod perspective, but this and Robz's post about how he has had really bad reads jumped out to me because of this quote from that game's mod QT with our mod jotheonah

Just be your town self. Let's play this like its M-XII or M-XVI, if we were secretly scum in those games. We're just two town guys, having fun, mislynching across the board. Our reads are so bad! Etc etc.

Robz is just a guy, having fun, mislynching across the board. His reads are so bad! But is he secretly scum?

[Jimmmmm]

Is no one else confused about shraeye being an IC?

[ashersky]

You didn't mention Yuma.

Towny.

[yuma]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I am not fine with you being lynched tomorrow if you are town... and I think you are town, so I am not fine with it... You shouldn't be either...

But I am happy that someone else is finally acknowledging Glooble. I am much more in support of his lynch over ashersky or lio (who I reread yesterday and did not find to be exceptionally scummy at all!)

vote: Glooble

[Robz888]

Ash, how do you square your belief that mcmc is scum with your belief we have  a sk? They are mildly contradictory. I know mcmc didn't shoot on night 1, and I really doubt gal would shoot instead of mc if they were on the same team. Either they had a third, or mcmc would be a different scum. But you think there is a serial killer. Mcmc car be the serial killer; he didn't shoot night 1.

Obviously there are possible weird explanations like ninja or something.

[ashersky]

Is no one else confused about shraeye being an IC?

Probably by request, and he didn't request.

[yuma]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I'm fine with you being lynched as well.

Munch, when I flip station, what will your excuse be, having reached China?

ummmm... we are on a space station... if you tunnel really hard on a space station you dont' end up in China... you end up dead, potentially with your eyeballs being sucked out of their sockets and your brain exploding...

[ashersky]

Ash, how do you square your belief that mcmc is scum with your belief we have  a sk? They are mildly contradictory. I know mcmc didn't shoot on night 1, and I really doubt gal would shoot instead of mc if they were on the same team. Either they had a third, or mcmc would be a different scum. But you think there is a serial killer. Mcmc car be the serial killer; he didn't shoot night 1.

Obviously there are possible weird explanations like ninja or something.

Separate things for me.  My scum read on mcmcsalot is independent of me thinking that SK is more likely than maquis.

[ashersky]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I'm fine with you being lynched as well.

Munch, when I flip station, what will your excuse be, having reached China?

ummmm... we are on a space station... if you tunnel really hard on a space station you dont' end up in China... you end up dead, potentially with your eyeballs being sucked out of their sockets and your brain exploding...

Given China's economy, I figure the other side of the space station was bought by China.

[yuma]

Fwiw, I am fine being lynched.  I think it helps town.  Those pushing to kill me: munch, mcmcsalot, Glooble, need extra scrutiny tomorrow.

I defer to Robz, Yuma, and theo on when my lynch should happen, and if they need my vote.  Until then, I will leave it on Glooble.

I hate this mindset if you are town. We really, REALLY can't afford to be mislynching here. And simply being on your wagon will not get them enough scrutiny. I realize (if you are actually town) that you want everyone to know that you are town and can be trusted, but lynching you as town is not the best way for that to happen. Scumhunt, make cases, prove your towniness some other way. This post is hypocritical because I've hardly made cases or contributed to lynches, but so be it.

The Glooble case is good.  Lurked often, active when called out, sheeping votes left and right, no clear opinions except on me, the easy mislynch.  Pretty classic scum to me.  That's why I am voting him.

The bolded part is actually one part of the glooble case that I disagree with, despite my vote on him... When called out for lurking he did not appreciably increase his posting, in fact it may have decreased.... Although I don't think some people gave him a large enough opportunity to display this typical scumtrait because they unvoted him after 2 posts and took all the pressure off.  However, I can't blame him for that...

[ashersky]

request replacement

[TheMunch]

request replacement

WHAT!?

also drunk ama

[theorel]

Has to do with situation outside this game...I'm sorry for it, and hope ashersky reconsiders.

[jotheonah]

The problem is that I've allowed the speccy to run rampant with setup info and anyone who has that link is too tainted to replace in probably. My own fault.

If anyone who has been following but isn't in the speccy is willing to replace in, please PM me.

I feel like Jorbles might fit this description.

Also, I know i owe you guys a vote count. Soon.

[ashersky]

74 pages in...unfair to a replacement and to everyone else in the game...I will stay.  Especially unfair to Joth, who's put together an amazing game.

[ashersky]

Has to do with situation outside this game...I'm sorry for it, and hope ashersky reconsiders.

Forget it.  Agree to move on?  I overreacted, too, probably.

[jotheonah]

Oh well that's a relief.