Topic: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 7) (Read 269240 times)

shraeye · « **Reply #1725 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:04:35 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on January 23, 2013, 07:02:10 pm

Quote from: TheMunch on January 23, 2013, 06:58:14 pm

So you think the evidence against shraeye is bad, because it should also convict you, and you know yourself to be innocent?

I just don't get it, because the only "evidence" against me that I see is that I was eager to lynch Cuzz, despite him claiming town-alignment-not-guaranteed SK-Cop.

TheMunch · « **Reply #1726 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:05:37 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on January 23, 2013, 07:02:10 pm

Quote from: TheMunch on January 23, 2013, 06:58:14 pm
I do not want to have to choose between Liopoil and Shraeye. I really dont think that liopoil is the right lynch for today. However, What bothers me about the Shraeye case is everything that Shraeye has done I am also guilty of to some degree. Just ofr some miraculs reason, Shraeye is getting shit for it and I'm not.

So you think the evidence against shraeye is bad, because it should also convict you, and you know yourself to be innocent?

Or you're just bothered by it because it's sort of not fair to shraeye?

The former.

TheMunch · « **Reply #1727 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:08:19 pm »

Quote from: shraeye on January 23, 2013, 07:04:35 pm

Quote from: Robz888 on January 23, 2013, 07:02:10 pm
Quote from: TheMunch on January 23, 2013, 06:58:14 pm

So you think the evidence against shraeye is bad, because it should also convict you, and you know yourself to be innocent?
I just don't get it, because the only "evidence" against me that I see is that I was eager to lynch Cuzz, despite him claiming town-alignment-not-guaranteed SK-Cop.

I mean, theres been more than that but nothing has been strong. Just people fueling their own suspicions for no reason. Confirmation bias that I am often too guilty of. But any time people seem to accuse Shraeye of something new I feel like "hey, I've done that too" pops into my head and it really weakens the Shraeye case to me.

Theres also the continuous fear that people are going to be convinced to fallback on the "one of Shraeye/munch is scum" then if I'm right about Shraeye, I'm going to get lynched super quick and we walked right into a double mislynched.

jotheonah · « **Reply #1728 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:15:41 pm »

raerae has my permission to post vote counts and mod announcements as a backup mod for the remainder of the game day, as I will be V/LA. Please treat her blue text as mine.

ashersky · « **Reply #1729 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:17:42 pm »

Munch, other than me, who else are you actually willing to lynch? This close to deadline, it's anti-town of you to limit yourself to one person.

I agree with you that liopoil isn't a great lynch for today. We disagree on shraeye, fine. How about Glooble? Robz isn't a fan of that lynch, but he'll do the right thing if it gets to deadline.

liopoil · « **Reply #1730 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:26:16 pm »

yes, I am willing to do anything not to be lynched. anyone besides me getting lynched gives me a better chance of winning this game, unless they are station and have a better role than I. The deadline is at a rather inconvenient time for me... I would prefer if this day were over very soon, as I can not post in the last 9 hours before the deadline at least.

TheMunch · « **Reply #1731 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:29:55 pm »

I think I have strong opinions on my short list but a strong lack of reads otherwise.

I would be willing to lynch the following players if it meant not lynching shraeye or liopoil: eevee glooble theorel jimm robz

ashersky · « **Reply #1732 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:32:18 pm »

Okay, we have me, Munch, and Robz willing to vote Eevee. Liopoil would vote Eevee if we told him it would keep him alive.

Shraeye? How do you feel about Eevee?

shraeye · « **Reply #1733 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:35:22 pm »

Yes to Eevee, here was my reread of him.

Day 2 has been really strange from him; he claimed that there were enough towny facts from day1 that he didn't care to try today. I don't remember the towny facts that Eevee is claiming.

ashersky · « **Reply #1734 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:35:50 pm »

Let's try this:

vote: Eevee

shraeye · « **Reply #1735 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:36:48 pm »

Vote: Eevee

TheMunch · « **Reply #1736 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:37:18 pm »

vote: eevee

ashersky · « **Reply #1737 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:39:01 pm »

We started from zero on Eevee, so that's 3.

And before people start bemoaning the "quickwagon," I argue this is NOT a quickwagon, it is a planned wagon based on cases/reads ahead of a looming deadline to ensure a no lynch doesn't happen.

liopoil · « **Reply #1738 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:55:35 pm »

Eevee has mentioned he thought I was scum many times, and he started my wagon. And that's a bit scummy, because I'm not scum. Plus he lurks even more than me! (this day at least). But yeah, shraeye and I would both probably vote for anyone besides ourself if it meant saving our life. I'm not super-confident about Eevee, so I won't vote yet. But if we needed it to get a lynch I will.

what happens at the deadline if nobody has hammered? whoever has the most votes at the time is lynched right? nolynch in case of tie. correct?

liopoil · « **Reply #1739 on:** January 23, 2013, 07:57:15 pm »

I just looked at the second post. If nobody has 7 votes it's a no-lynch, regardless.

liopoil · « **Reply #1740 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:03:43 pm »

shraeye: 3 votes
eevee: 3 votes
liopoil: 2 votes

If you count me on eevee and shraeye, and shraeye on me, because our votes will be in those places if needed then it's, in the same order, 4-4-3. So at least 3 other people need to change their mind for us to get a lynch.

ashersky · « **Reply #1741 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:15:02 pm »

Quote from: liopoil on January 23, 2013, 07:55:35 pm

Eevee has mentioned he thought I was scum many times, and he started my wagon. And that's a bit scummy, because I'm not scum.

This is incorrect. Town!Eevee doesn't know you are town, so thinking you are scummy and/or starting a wagon on you is NOT inherently scummy.

liopoil · « **Reply #1742 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:18:39 pm »

yes I know that, but scum will say that town are scum on average more often than town will say that town are sum (or scummy, etc.) This is why people on the cuzz wagon should get scrutinized more. Shraeye and I were both on that wagon, and we are two of the three likely lynches today.

This game always has chaotic ends of days.

liopoil · « **Reply #1743 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:22:26 pm »

hey guys I'm here right now, but will be gone until after the deadline in a couple hours...

so If there's anything you want me to address before the end of the day then now is the time...

shraeye · « **Reply #1744 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:23:16 pm »

Give me your current read on Jimmm, please. And Dsell.

shraeye · « **Reply #1745 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:23:24 pm »

oh, yuma too.

Robz888 · « **Reply #1746 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:31:39 pm »

I don't have a problem with the movement to Eevee. And I may vote for him. But right now it's just the same people moving back and forth. Still need input from the people I mentioned previously. And Dsell.

liopoil · « **Reply #1747 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:32:02 pm »

wait, why do you want to know about them? Oh I get it, if I die you want to know what my reads were. Okay. Gonna re-read each one a little to solidify reads, then will post.

ashersky · « **Reply #1748 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:46:12 pm »

Quote from: Robz888 on January 23, 2013, 08:31:39 pm

I don't have a problem with the movement to Eevee. And I may vote for him. But right now it's just the same people moving back and forth. Still need input from the people I mentioned previously. And Dsell.

Because we're the active players worried about deadline.

Big FOS at the lurkers right now, of whom Eevee sticks out due to generally being active in games when they matter.

liopoil · « **Reply #1749 on:** January 23, 2013, 08:48:28 pm »

I'll do Jimmmmm first.

He hasn't posted since right after robz claimed. He needs to get in here. as do the other two people you mentioned actually. Has been a fair bit less active D2 compared to when he was the top poster D1, not sure what this means. I think he's been trying to stay neutral on topics a bit too much. I guess slight scumread, though not nearly as strongly as I thought he was before. I just read all his posts in the last 10 pages, and there wasn't too much of ay significance. I would much rather lynch Eevee than Jimmmmm, not only because an eevee lynch would give us more information, but because I still think Jimmmmm likely has a PR, which, while is bad if he's scum, isn't as good as if he's town. A one shot vig would actually fit quite nicely with what he said early I think, and that's a town role right?

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