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Author Topic: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 7)  (Read 269237 times)

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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1025 on: January 14, 2013, 02:34:35 pm »

Though will we know if there's an sk or two scum teams after tonight? If so then I could see keeping him alive till we figure out if there's an sk and re-open the discussion.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1026 on: January 14, 2013, 02:36:16 pm »

Kill flavor will not differentiate between scum teams.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1027 on: January 14, 2013, 02:44:04 pm »

Just thinking out loud, if there is an sk his or her vote is most likely already on cuzz. Wouldn't they rather kill cuzz in the day and prevent us from all the information we would gain at night?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1028 on: January 14, 2013, 02:45:47 pm »

Though will we know if there's an sk or two scum teams after tonight? If so then I could see keeping him alive till we figure out if there's an sk and re-open the discussion.

We will be much, much closer to knowing this if we keep Cuzz alive.

Look, I could see still lynching Cuzz, despite his claim, if the case against him was a slamdunk. It's not. At best, it's an acceptable-ish Day 1 case... against a now-confirmed (since no one counter-claimed) cop.

I would like to hear from shraeye. What do you think about Cuzz now?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1029 on: January 14, 2013, 02:47:09 pm »

Just thinking out loud, if there is an sk his or her vote is most likely already on cuzz. Wouldn't they rather kill cuzz in the day and prevent us from all the information we would gain at night?

The bolded part is false. No one knew Cuzz was the SK cop until he said so. No one has moved their vote to Cuzz since his claim. Therefore, no one currently voting Cuzz knew he was the SK cop when they cast that vote. Therefore, the Serial Killer could not have been voting for Cuzz because Cuzz is the SK cop.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1030 on: January 14, 2013, 02:48:26 pm »

Just thinking out loud, if there is an sk his or her vote is most likely already on cuzz. Wouldn't they rather kill cuzz in the day and prevent us from all the information we would gain at night?

The bolded part is false. No one knew Cuzz was the SK cop until he said so. No one has moved their vote to Cuzz since his claim. Therefore, no one currently voting Cuzz knew he was the SK cop when they cast that vote. Therefore, the Serial Killer could not have been voting for Cuzz because Cuzz is the SK cop.

What I'm saying is, the SK may or may not be voting for Cuzz, but that has nothing to do with Cuzz being the SK cop. Now, anyone who votes Cuzz from this point on, it could be because that person is SK.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1031 on: January 14, 2013, 02:49:26 pm »

I would still like to lynch Cuzz.  I agree with mcmc in 2^10.

@Robz: If there is a SK and he wasn't voting for Cuzz, why wouldn't he have hammered when Cuzz claimed SK Cop?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1032 on: January 14, 2013, 02:52:44 pm »

@Robz: If there is a SK and he wasn't voting for Cuzz, why wouldn't he have hammered when Cuzz claimed SK Cop?

This is exactly what I meant.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1033 on: January 14, 2013, 02:53:05 pm »

I would still like to lynch Cuzz.  I agree with mcmc in 2^10.

@Robz: If there is a SK and he wasn't voting for Cuzz, why wouldn't he have hammered when Cuzz claimed SK Cop?

The Serial Killer would have to be praying Cuzz flipped scum, or else I'd be pretty suspicious of whoever quickhammered the guy who claimed SK Cop.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1034 on: January 14, 2013, 02:54:05 pm »

I mean you're correct that the Serial Killer, more than anyone else, wants to lynch Cuzz. I don't think that's an overriding enough concern to do something really scummy-seeming, like quickhammering a claimed cop.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1035 on: January 14, 2013, 02:55:21 pm »

There are a few people who have indicated that they would hammer.  I dont think hammering in that way is the most obvious.  Look at me hammering the doctor in XV.  Granted I was town and the town members that did notice kept pretty hush about it for good reason but I think that its an argument that the SK could pull off if they did hammer.

PPE: Claimed cop that very well could be still be scum.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1036 on: January 14, 2013, 02:57:28 pm »

Anyone who shifts their vote to Cuzz in the wake of his claim is more likely to be the SK. Anyone who keeps their vote on Cuzz in the wake of his claim is also more likely to be SK. That ends up encompassing a whole bunch of people, though.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1037 on: January 14, 2013, 02:58:26 pm »

At this point, I would unvote and be the hammerer.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1038 on: January 14, 2013, 02:59:22 pm »

At this point, I would unvote and be the hammerer.

Why would you do that? Why do you want to be the hammerer?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1039 on: January 14, 2013, 03:00:03 pm »

Anyone who shifts their vote to Cuzz in the wake of his claim is more likely to be the SK. Anyone who keeps their vote on Cuzz in the wake of his claim is also more likely to be SK. That ends up encompassing a whole bunch of people, though.

My claim has persuaded precisely no one to unvote, so that's 7 people there.

Are we still gonna lynch me today? If not, we should start a new wagon or something. Otherwise I'll be happy to self-hammer as my role is weak and my lynch will be pretty informational at this juncture.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1040 on: January 14, 2013, 03:00:22 pm »

At this point, I would unvote and be the hammerer.

Why would you do that? Why do you want to be the hammerer?

I don't get what you're saying, I guess. You're already voting for Cuzz. You can't hammer him unless someone else is going to vote for him. Why not let that person be the hammerer? WHy do you want to hammer?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1041 on: January 14, 2013, 03:01:10 pm »

At this point, I would unvote and be the hammerer.

Why would you do that? Why do you want to be the hammerer?

I don't get what you're saying, I guess. You're already voting for Cuzz. You can't hammer him unless someone else is going to vote for him. Why not let that person be the hammerer? WHy do you want to hammer?

Does yuma keep "hammered claimed town PR" stats?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1042 on: January 14, 2013, 03:02:11 pm »

Cause its page 42.  I've been on cuzz for 600 posts now and I would like the day to end.  All your post 1036 might have done is make some scared towny that might have hammered afraid to do so and will only really keep the day going.  I'm not prepared to continue this day.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1043 on: January 14, 2013, 03:02:28 pm »

Anyone who shifts their vote to Cuzz in the wake of his claim is more likely to be the SK. Anyone who keeps their vote on Cuzz in the wake of his claim is also more likely to be SK. That ends up encompassing a whole bunch of people, though.

My claim has persuaded precisely no one to unvote, so that's 7 people there.

Are we still gonna lynch me today? If not, we should start a new wagon or something. Otherwise I'll be happy to self-hammer as my role is weak and my lynch will be pretty informational at this juncture.

Why would you want to self-hammer?

PPE: What does this have to do with yuma?
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1044 on: January 14, 2013, 03:04:02 pm »

At this point, I would unvote and be the hammerer.

Why would you do that? Why do you want to be the hammerer?

I don't get what you're saying, I guess. You're already voting for Cuzz. You can't hammer him unless someone else is going to vote for him. Why not let that person be the hammerer? WHy do you want to hammer?

Does yuma keep "hammered claimed town PR" stats?

I hope so.  Worked to my advantage in XV <3

I'm actually kind of hopeful that Cuzz is actually lying.  The real SK cop is sitting back (or isn't currently online/posting) knowing that Cuzz is almost sure to get lynched anyway.  Thus the real SK cop wouldn't have to out himself, we're just going to lynch the false claim no matter what he says.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1045 on: January 14, 2013, 03:04:37 pm »

What I am saying is:

No counterclaim =/= Cuzz is telling the truth.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1046 on: January 14, 2013, 03:05:38 pm »

That would be the stupidest claim ever.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1047 on: January 14, 2013, 03:08:25 pm »

I think the odds of Cuzz deciding to fakeclaim a PR that he knew would get counter-claimed is like, less than 1%.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1048 on: January 14, 2013, 03:12:50 pm »

Anyone who shifts their vote to Cuzz in the wake of his claim is more likely to be the SK. Anyone who keeps their vote on Cuzz in the wake of his claim is also more likely to be SK. That ends up encompassing a whole bunch of people, though.

My claim has persuaded precisely no one to unvote, so that's 7 people there.

Are we still gonna lynch me today? If not, we should start a new wagon or something. Otherwise I'll be happy to self-hammer as my role is weak and my lynch will be pretty informational at this juncture.

Why would you want to self-hammer?

PPE: What does this have to do with yuma?

We're going to lynch someone today. That person will likely be town anyway. I'm all anyone has talked about today so there will be lots to analyze when I flip town. Another wagon will be more of the "well we needed to lynch someone so don't blame me for my vote" type on D2 which will be frustrating to analyze. Plus I either get killed tonight, or if not we spend a lot more time on D2 rehashing the "should we lynch Cuzz" discussion, which will be even more of a waste of time then than it is now.

Plus I'm basically a gimped FBI agent who doesn't even know if there's a serial killer in the game. Not a huge loss.
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Re: Mafia XIX: Deep Space Nine Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #1049 on: January 14, 2013, 03:18:42 pm »

Munch really wants me dead, huh?
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