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[ashersky]

Ashersky is chock full of readception (and recently has been posting and phrasing arguments in a way that actually might have me convinced his scum and not just really wrong).

Eevee's vote on RaeRae is incredibly strange to me; maybe its just that hes following provocation from Ashersky (I know, readception of my own if that is actually the case but at least I'm trying to be honest with myself and its the reason I'm not voting for Eevee; I think my unease is more that you could replace Ashersky with anyone that is has a scum read on someone that few people share that says: Hey lets vote X and Eevee goes sure, especially when Eevee expressed other reads which he expanded to include Raerae after the vote?).

So Ashersky moved his vote and Raerae is on board, Cuzz is back at L-2.  I'm gonna ask of the people not recently involved with the cuzz wagon (momsalon, yuma, dsell, jim, theorel, robz) to just state (even if they did say it and I missed it, I'm sorry), which category you fall into:
1) You have similar-to-eevee staunch opposition to the Cuzz lynch
2) You are only not voting for Cuzz because you have a stronger scum read elsewhere
3) You are willing to vote Cuzz.

So, just responding to the stuff about me here.

First, I've seen you use "readception" as a term often, and I still don't get it.  I mean, I saw the movie, but it was difficult enough to understand.  So I don't know how to respond to the readception accusation.  Like, literally.

I'm still okay with lynching Cuzz.  I'd give him a good 66.6% chance of flipping scum.

[liopoil]

My vote is on cuzz

[Cuzz]

I'm not sure if I want to claim. I have to think about it. What does everyone else think?

[Cuzz]

I'm finding myself wishing Robz were here...

[yuma]

vote: no lynch

yuck!

[ashersky]

vote: no lynch

I read someone's thread on parity, but it didn't mention multiple scum teams.

We're clearly not getting a consensus on anyone going

What are you talking about, with the "we're not getting a consensus on anyone"??  Cuzz is at L-2, and if you kept your vote on him, that would be L-1 now.  That sounds like very heavy consensus to me. 

I know there are detractors, but if we slow down every single wagon because of detractors, we'll create a situation like Casino that went on forever until I purposely fell on the sword just to end the day.

You waited all of 3.5 hours between voting for Cuzz and declaring that we weren't getting consensus?  I suppose between your vote and unvote we had Cuzz, theorel and Eevee expressing disinterest in the Cuzz case.  But that's nowhere near the "I guess this is going nowhere" stage.

I think we're talking about the same thing.  Look, here's you:

Guys, this game is at 38 pages.

I don't want a mega day1.  With ashersky's vote on Cuzz (I'm assuming that he thinks cuzz is at least slightly scummy if he was willing to put him to L-2 earlier tonight) he would be at L-1.  Liopoil wants to lynch cuzz as well.


Just vote Cuzz, end day 1 now.  Y'all can blame my insistence if things go badly, but i'm confident Cuzz is scum.  I insist we end this day before we hit 40 pages.

End day 1 now is what I'm saying.  If people keep derailing lynches (Eevee), it won't end.  I went back to Cuzz.

I think I've been clear that I prefer the raerae lynch all day.  I also concede it ain't gonna happen, probably.  So I switched to Cuzz.  Then I had three people in a row blow up about it before raerae came in and joined up.  So yeah, it looked derailed.

[ashersky]

I'm not sure if I want to claim. I have to think about it. What does everyone else think?

Claiming a PR saves for you for a night, I think.

[TheMunch]

So we just need 1 more?  Yuma, why do you NOT want a 38 page day 1 to be over?

[yuma]

Also considering voting for myself and letting yuma quick hammer because we do need to get this day over and I'm clearly going to be a huge distraction for the rest of the game at this point.

don't. If you are town. Don't self-vote. Gah. I really hope you are joking, because we have been over this... barring a very few edge scenarios self-voting is never a pro-town thing to do. I will vote you.

[ashersky]

Anybody up for a post count?  I'd say do it and lynch the biggest undercontributor.  My best guess is Dsell, looking at the list.

That, or we choose one of {shraeye, cuzz, eevee, Jimmmmm} and go for it.

1. ashersky - 113
2. Robz - 114
3. yuma - 47
4. Eevee - 93
5. Shraeye - 57
6. Cuzz - 84
7. Glooble - 30
8. Raerae - 55
9. liopoil - 27
10. mcmcsalot - 36 
11. Jimmmmm - 91
12. theorel - 21
13. TheMunch - 53 (not including sparky's posts)
14. Dsell - 28
15. Galzria - 61

since noone seemed to follow up on this, thought I would. But I don't think there is much to gleam from it. Dsell probably isn't going to get lynched... theo as well, lio is new (not a reason to lynch someone, but still isn't really on my radar to lynch anyways...), I still have my vote on Glooble and am surprised how quickly that wagon disappeared... mcmc could be a possible lynch...

From this list, I think ~50 is the optimum number to look at.  So mom salon, glooble, liopoil, theo, dsell aren't close.  Theo get's like double credit for every post from most of you, so take him out.

Mcmcsalot, Glooble, Liopoil, and Dsell are the "low content" lynches.  Dsell is everyone's favorite IC.  Liopoil gets the newbie pass.  Mcmcsalot and Glooble are POE from this list.

Glooble has been townie in each of his few posts.

Mcmcsalot seems like the best "lurker" lynch.  But really, he's not lurking that bad.

[Cuzz]

Also considering voting for myself and letting yuma quick hammer because we do need to get this day over and I'm clearly going to be a huge distraction for the rest of the game at this point.

don't. If you are town. Don't self-vote. Gah. I really hope you are joking, because we have been over this... barring a very few edge scenarios self-voting is never a pro-town thing to do. I will vote you.

I was mostly kidding, but I feel so frustrated this game and kinda want to be out of it. I feel like ash did in XVI with the exception that I'm responding to every legitimate criticism of me and I don't get the sense that anyone is reading what I'm saying.

[ashersky]

Mods, vote count if possible, thanks.

Jimmmmm, yuma, I think either of you can hammer.

[liopoil]

Shraeye; while I do want to lynch cuzz I don't see the reason for all the hurry.                 cuzz: if you get to L-1 and someone says they'll hammer I dont see why you shouldn't claim... I also don't see why you should claim before that, unless you think  people might quickhammer for whatever reason

[ashersky]

Also considering voting for myself and letting yuma quick hammer because we do need to get this day over and I'm clearly going to be a huge distraction for the rest of the game at this point.

don't. If you are town. Don't self-vote. Gah. I really hope you are joking, because we have been over this... barring a very few edge scenarios self-voting is never a pro-town thing to do. I will vote you.

I was mostly kidding, but I feel so frustrated this game and kinda want to be out of it. I feel like ash did in XVI with the exception that I'm responding to every legitimate criticism of me and I don't get the sense that anyone is reading what I'm saying.

Also I was town in XVI.

[Cuzz]

Shraeye; while I do want to lynch cuzz I don't see the reason for all the hurry.                 cuzz: if you get to L-1 and someone says they'll hammer I dont see why you shouldn't claim... I also don't see why you should claim before that, unless you think  people might quickhammer for whatever reason

What am I at anyway?

Also considering voting for myself and letting yuma quick hammer because we do need to get this day over and I'm clearly going to be a huge distraction for the rest of the game at this point.

don't. If you are town. Don't self-vote. Gah. I really hope you are joking, because we have been over this... barring a very few edge scenarios self-voting is never a pro-town thing to do. I will vote you.

I was mostly kidding, but I feel so frustrated this game and kinda want to be out of it. I feel like ash did in XVI with the exception that I'm responding to every legitimate criticism of me and I don't get the sense that anyone is reading what I'm saying.

Also I was town in XVI.

Ohhh i get it. Because I'm scum in this game. Good one.

[ashersky]

Shraeye; while I do want to lynch cuzz I don't see the reason for all the hurry.                 cuzz: if you get to L-1 and someone says they'll hammer I dont see why you shouldn't claim... I also don't see why you should claim before that, unless you think  people might quickhammer for whatever reason

What am I at anyway?

Also considering voting for myself and letting yuma quick hammer because we do need to get this day over and I'm clearly going to be a huge distraction for the rest of the game at this point.

don't. If you are town. Don't self-vote. Gah. I really hope you are joking, because we have been over this... barring a very few edge scenarios self-voting is never a pro-town thing to do. I will vote you.

I was mostly kidding, but I feel so frustrated this game and kinda want to be out of it. I feel like ash did in XVI with the exception that I'm responding to every legitimate criticism of me and I don't get the sense that anyone is reading what I'm saying.

Also I was town in XVI.

Ohhh i get it. Because I'm scum in this game. Good one.

L-1, we think.

And I really, really, really was town that game.  You can see the flip.

[yuma]

1) You have similar-to-eevee staunch opposition to the Cuzz lynch
2) You are only not voting for Cuzz because you have a stronger scum read elsewhere
3) You are willing to vote Cuzz.

why are these the only 3 categories? Right now I am not voting Cuzz because 1. I am not 100% sold on the case on him. 2. I am not 100% sure about how I feel about his reaction. 3. some members of town haven't yet had input (robz, mcmc) and I would like them to do so... 4. Cuzz hasn't claimed. So pick one of your three numbers and see which one fits all of the above the best...

[raerae]

Cuzz, feel like explaining your townread on Jimmmmm yet? 

[Cuzz]

Cuzz, feel like explaining your townread on Jimmmmm yet?

No

[ashersky]

1) You have similar-to-eevee staunch opposition to the Cuzz lynch
2) You are only not voting for Cuzz because you have a stronger scum read elsewhere
3) You are willing to vote Cuzz.

why are these the only 3 categories? Right now I am not voting Cuzz because 1. I am not 100% sold on the case on him. 2. I am not 100% sure about how I feel about his reaction. 3. some members of town haven't yet had input (robz, mcmc) and I would like them to do so... 4. Cuzz hasn't claimed. So pick one of your three numbers and see which one fits all of the above the best...

On the bolded line...how do you know Robz and Mcmc are town?  Scum slip?

[Cuzz]

I will policy vote the next person who accuses someone of a scumslip.

[Cuzz]

But I'm waiting for yuma to make the obvious defense himself this time!

[yuma]

1) You have similar-to-eevee staunch opposition to the Cuzz lynch
2) You are only not voting for Cuzz because you have a stronger scum read elsewhere
3) You are willing to vote Cuzz.

why are these the only 3 categories? Right now I am not voting Cuzz because 1. I am not 100% sold on the case on him. 2. I am not 100% sure about how I feel about his reaction. 3. some members of town haven't yet had input (robz, mcmc) and I would like them to do so... 4. Cuzz hasn't claimed. So pick one of your three numbers and see which one fits all of the above the best...

On the bolded line...how do you know Robz and Mcmc are town?  Scum slip?

... whether or not they are members of "station" or "marquies" I still want to hear from them. And regardless of alignment they are still members of "the town" in this imaginary game world they live side by side with the rest of us and have a voice and a vote.

Oh... and Galz too hasn't weighed in yet

[ashersky]

1) You have similar-to-eevee staunch opposition to the Cuzz lynch
2) You are only not voting for Cuzz because you have a stronger scum read elsewhere
3) You are willing to vote Cuzz.

why are these the only 3 categories? Right now I am not voting Cuzz because 1. I am not 100% sold on the case on him. 2. I am not 100% sure about how I feel about his reaction. 3. some members of town haven't yet had input (robz, mcmc) and I would like them to do so... 4. Cuzz hasn't claimed. So pick one of your three numbers and see which one fits all of the above the best...

On the bolded line...how do you know Robz and Mcmc are town?  Scum slip?

... whether or not they are members of "station" or "marquies" I still want to hear from them. And regardless of alignment they are still members of "the town" in this imaginary game world they live side by side with the rest of us and have a voice and a vote.

Oh... and Galz too hasn't weighed in yet

By town you mean space station, and by imaginary you mean real.

[raerae]

Cuzz, feel like explaining your townread on Jimmmmm yet?

No

Any interest in voting today?  I see you still haven't done so.