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[scolapasta]

We need a plan.  If Joseph gets all of the owl pieces and leaves, we're done for.  How can we do this?

Yeah, I'm concerned the plan specified below:

Partners, I think that you should do the plan tonight that I suggested doing last night.

is to get Joseph all the pieces of the owl.

So is there a way for both Joseph and town to win at this point?

[sudgy]

Since Joseph has an owl piece and scum is about to lose their thief, we should be safe from scum getting all of the owl pieces.

[scolapasta]

My idea is to get us down to mail-mi, skip, and Joseph, then Joseph leaves, and who knows what happens next.

Actually, a much, much, better idea: Joseph, try to steal from mail-mi or skip.  If you get the Rope, give it to the other, and then once there's one mafia left, we can keep blocking kills with a couple town to spare, give you all of the owl pieces with all of the time in the world, you leave, and we still have a couple more people to lynch the last mafia with.

Nice, I was also thinking having joseph steal is the rope tonight is exactly right.

[scolapasta]

Since Joseph has an owl piece and scum is about to lose their thief, we should be safe from scum getting all of the owl pieces.

To be clear, I wasn't saying that their plan is to get the pieces from Joseph, but to give them all to him.

Joseph, help us get the rope, then after we can block you can win. (scum can't risk NKing you, because they need to get rid of town, know that we know who they are).

[sudgy]

Since Joseph has an owl piece and scum is about to lose their thief, we should be safe from scum getting all of the owl pieces.

To be clear, I wasn't saying that their plan is to get the pieces from Joseph, but to give them all to him.

Yeah I know, I wrote that post without seeing yours yet.

[sudgy]

I'm assuming faust is scum pawnbroker, mail-mi/skip are the town/scum sailors, and ADK is the scum graverobber.

[mail-mi]

I'm assuming faust is scum pawnbroker, mail-mi/skip are the town/scum sailors, and ADK is the scum graverobber.

I'm sold. Skip/Faust/adk. I've been scumreading ADK since day2.

[sudgy]

At this point I think we know everyone's role, so I'm not going to bother with updating my claims post, but we should keep track of where the owl pieces are.  Joseph has the torso, and I think the wings and the head were stolen by Joth.  He could have given the wings to a scumbuddy last night if they wanted to.

[sudgy]

Also, Joseph, if you steal the Rope (or fail to steal it because you targeted the wrong sailor), we then know who it is of skip/mail-mi.

[sudgy]

I've been posting way too much, but I think all of my thoughts are out there.  I'll be going now.

[faust]

Lol joth is dead, right?

[faust]

faust, you never answered my question from before.  Why did you claim to need items on day 1, when LaLight said he didn't need items?

I did not claim that?

Here are my things:

Golden talisman
Scarf
Access card
Pickled fish
Rollerblades

The plan was for everyone to post a list of 5 items that includes the item they need, and for people who don't need any items to just post a list of 5 random items, which is what I did. As otherwise it would be obvious who doesn't need anything.

[scolapasta]

Lol joth is dead, right?

Yup. Wanna confess, too?

[sudgy]

faust, you never answered my question from before.  Why did you claim to need items on day 1, when LaLight said he didn't need items?

I did not claim that?

Here are my things:

Golden talisman
Scarf
Access card
Pickled fish
Rollerblades

The plan was for everyone to post a list of 5 items that includes the item they need, and for people who don't need any items to just post a list of 5 random items, which is what I did. As otherwise it would be obvious who doesn't need anything.

At this point we've PoE'd you, so my previous argument is moot anyway.

[faust]

Well I'm not scum, so if you wanna seal this loss, go ahead.

[faust]

I think joth might have been sacrificed to get the message across to Joseph. Though the timing and surrounding circumstances for that are a bit weird.

[faust]

Also, note that this makes scola and me basically confirmed town, because we could have unvoted and hoped Joseph would join us as scum if what Joth says is true.

Yeah I doubt the whole scum team would out themselves in a hope to convince Joseph.

[faust]

I think mail-mi and faust, but less sure about those.  Faust still hasn't explained why he posted items he wanted D1, and since skip/mail-mi are now basically confirmed to be town vs scum, it makes faust vs LaLight more likely to be town vs scum as well.

How does that logic work? One would think that if we know there's a scum in mail-mi/skip, it would be less likely that any other given player is scum.

[faust]

Oh fudge. Standby.

Does this mean faust does indeed have the notebook?

I do. It appears that joth was indeed telling the truth.

There's this. ^^^ for faust.

Also, in case we were doubting joseph, joth is seemingly confirming him as not scum, too.

Well he was. I could give you the things to confirm, but you'd have to give one away before that, so I think they need to go to someone else.

[faust]

sudgy seems town here, but you know... town who is wrong.

[Joseph2302]

Whoops. Uh, Joseph if you unvote me and vote for Eevee we can deliver you a shared victory tonight. It’s your only hope of winning the game, we have you locked out otherwise.

Was asleep, it was 5am here... also, not convinced this is true either

[Joseph2302]

Since Joseph has an owl piece and scum is about to lose their thief, we should be safe from scum getting all of the owl pieces.

I would expect so, yes. I'm just going to be grave robbing joth as well, so you're all safe

[Joseph2302]

And if scum do have a way to stop me, then oh well, that's life. But I think joth was just trying to get me to unvote

[Joseph2302]

And if scum do have a way of giving me the owl pieces, then let's do it. But I have no items for trade

[Joseph2302]

And if scum do stop me tonight, I'll try and play for the town team. It's only way that I have a (ridiculously remote) chance of winning