Or...maybe mcmc's reaction is relevant because it is what inspired my scum-read, whereas I don't particularly remember anyone else's reaction. But lending credence to a town-read is a whole different ball-game IMO than lending credence to a confirmed town player. Regarding your conversation with TWM, I dunno, it didn't seem like there was a need to interject into it? I think my points were already made, none of them changed.
i disagree that it is a different ballpark, the probability of a townread being town is p high. even a not-townread
i mean you asked me a question. did you think anything about the several walls of text i posted essentially in response to that question
that is what i was getting at with the people don't tend to defend partners thing. a lot of people here overvalue vca and are conscious of counterwagons. in response, i have observed very often that scum here will bus often and make little attempt to dislodge a scum wagon if one is building.
Not day 1. Bussing on day 1 is basically suicide. Especially with only two partners.
And I am not even talking about defending. I am just talking about a subtle move toward someone other than mcmc to make it a viable option. I actually anticipated people suspecting me of exactly that when I moved off mcmc which is why I didn't exactly spell it out yesterday.
But OK. I am not going to convince you of this. If you are town, then you are convinced you are town and did a townie thing. If you are scum I am not trying to convince you. But am interested if this idea is working for anyone else or if I am totally off base?
gosh wouldn't you think so. but people do do it. m102 galzria and pps both bussed and lynched faust d1 three players not two. ww empty bussed both of his partners in 104three players not two. i don't immediately remember it for other people who were on wagon. but like people do specifically try to get things like your unvote to happen, as far as i understand that is a significant reason for pps' hammer thing. huh? Nevermind. I don't really care.
i don't suppose the thing i did was townie it wasn't. especially the way it happened. It isn't just that you voted for mcmc that was scummy. It was what you did before and how you voted (idk i could have thought it through more probably, if i had remembered pps would hammer immediately i wouldn't have voted) but i also don't suppose that i unilaterally should have not voted according to your thing I wouldn't have minded the vote had you and pps at least given it some thought (and publicly shown this by posting said thoughts instead of saying that you had thoughts retroactively).
And again. I am not super interested in what you are saying. I want to hear from everyone else.
There are X number of townies. Can any of you townies give me some sort of input on my thoughts here?
Seriously?
My points in red
lmfao there are two scum
ok
it is minutia anyway. i guess i agree bussing is more unlikely but yes i would not have considered that
i mean i did give the thing you said thought. i said "people don't defend partners here" to try to communicate all this stuff from today and i guess wasn't clear
Both schadd and theorel's votes for each other look like they are both trying to justify voting for the other.
i mean i agree with you about theorel on me, that is largely what i am scumreading him for