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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #850 on: June 17, 2018, 09:12:06 am »

This nk is super helpful to us,  other than having to lose a townie. I think a lot of people were looking to gkrieg next. I know I was.  And the Awaclus theory makes sense, too. Even night cop won't help them at all, either.

I'm thinking there was a redirect.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #851 on: June 17, 2018, 09:26:07 am »

Interested to hear Awaclus's surprising information.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #852 on: June 17, 2018, 09:33:04 am »

Agree Gkrieg probably copped Awaclus. He was clear about his Galz read being based on Galzria's play
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #853 on: June 17, 2018, 09:54:03 am »

Interested to hear Awaclus's surprising information.

I was an active universal backup. I used it on mcmc and now I'm a vanilla townie.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #854 on: June 17, 2018, 09:57:09 am »

From my perspective it is worthwhile to do a massclaim unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't. If Awa is town via gkrieg, he could set an order and probably claim his info last.

Open to not claiming too.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #855 on: June 17, 2018, 09:57:17 am »

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #856 on: June 17, 2018, 11:12:56 am »

I accept that Awaclus was copped by gkrieg and is town. I thought Awaclus was town anyway, though.

Hydrad, Space: how's that neighborhood going? I think it's reasonably likely there's a scum there.

DatSwan: why is it a weird nightkill?

I support massclaiming. Awaclus should set an order.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #857 on: June 17, 2018, 11:17:12 am »

From my perspective it is worthwhile to do a massclaim unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't. If Awa is town via gkrieg, he could set an order and probably claim his info last.

Open to not claiming too.

What's your reason for why we should?

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #858 on: June 17, 2018, 12:05:57 pm »

I don't have anything helpful to share.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #859 on: June 17, 2018, 01:13:59 pm »

From my perspective it is worthwhile to do a massclaim unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't. If Awa is town via gkrieg, he could set an order and probably claim his info last.

Open to not claiming too.

What's your reason for why we should?

Youll see if we do a claim.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #860 on: June 17, 2018, 01:15:48 pm »

From my perspective it is worthwhile to do a massclaim unless someone has a good reason why we shouldn't. If Awa is town via gkrieg, he could set an order and probably claim his info last.

Open to not claiming too.

What's your reason for why we should?

Youll see if we do a claim.

And that's not enough to make me want to massclaim.

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #861 on: June 17, 2018, 01:16:51 pm »

How did Awaclus become an IC?

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #862 on: June 17, 2018, 02:30:28 pm »

How did Awaclus become an IC?

Gkrieg copped me.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #863 on: June 17, 2018, 02:31:35 pm »

Did nobody else find it surprising that I became a VT when trying to get mcmc's role?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #864 on: June 17, 2018, 02:33:28 pm »

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #865 on: June 17, 2018, 02:36:59 pm »

Did nobody else find it surprising that I became a VT when trying to get mcmc's role?

Yes - Because while he said he had been VT'd at night, he didn't flip VT... so VT wasn't his PR... so I don't understand why you became VT.
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Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #866 on: June 17, 2018, 02:41:22 pm »

How did Awaclus become an IC?

Gkrieg copped me.

Is there proof?

He evidently was a cop, he 180'd his read on me after N2, and I know I'm town so that also fits the narrative.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #867 on: June 17, 2018, 02:42:58 pm »

Did nobody else find it surprising that I became a VT when trying to get mcmc's role?

Yes - Because while he said he had been VT'd at night, he didn't flip VT... so VT wasn't his PR... so I don't understand why you became VT.

Oh. I didn't notice he said that. I guess that's how it works then.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #868 on: June 17, 2018, 02:57:23 pm »

My PR is only useful if we claim. I thought I wanted to claim yesterday before thinking it through more. I'm not against it today, but I don't have any more (well, technically I do, I guess) information to share than I did yesterday.

We're more or less in the same boat today that we were yesterday in terms of numbers: Yesterday there were 11 alive with 4 scum. Had we mislynched (theoretical), we would've been 9 alive with 4 scum today - LyLo (barring PR's). By comparison, we're at 9 alive with 3 scum now. If we mislynch, we would go to 7 alive 3 scum - also LyLo (barring PR's). We've basically gained a free night of PR actions with the correct lynch of Eevee - but in terms of claiming/not claiming, eh, I won't advocate for it, but I'm not against it either.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #869 on: June 17, 2018, 03:03:51 pm »

Did nobody else find it surprising that I became a VT when trying to get mcmc's role?

Yes - Because while he said he had been VT'd at night, he didn't flip VT... so VT wasn't his PR... so I don't understand why you became VT.

Oh. I didn't notice he said that. I guess that's how it works then.

This is what Mcmc said about his role and what happened:
okay I have to go to bed please dont lynch me.


I was a dual role. The urethra and the ureter (bladder) I could roleblock(uethra) or be a deflector(ureter) night 1 I roleblocked eevee, nothing I know of happened. WHen Day 2 started I was informed that I was now a vanilla townie.

I confirmed that the mafia only steals your power if you were successfully killed so I wasn't a mafia target that got doctored or anything.

But then this is the flip from his lynch:

What followed were lots of further examinations. Alex was told that they had to prep them for surgery, to remove some of the tumors that build in their kidney. According to the doctors, there was an about 60% chance that this would remove the cancer, otherwise Alex might face having the whole kidney removed.

Still, the experts were baffled by Alex's other, seemingly unrelated symptoms. It took two months before their test, and consultations with other medical experts, yielded results.

Alex's doctor sat down beside them. "We have found the likely cause of what you're going through." She paused. "It seems that you are suffering from a very rare auto-immune deficiency called Morbus Efdeësis. It seems to have been triggered by the cancer and causes your body to turn against itself in an attempt to destroy the cancer cells. In theory this, could even be helpful..." She hesitated for a bit. "However, the targeting isn't very accurate, and your condition actually affects helathy organs."


mcmcsalot has been lynched! They were the Bladder, the Deflector/Roleblocker.

Night 2 begins and lasts 48 hours. Night actions are due by June 12, 2018, 03:30:00 pm.

Thread locked!

As Mcmc almost certainly wasn't lying, I do wonder why you became VT when UB'ing him and not a Defector/Roleblocker.

Only thing I can think is that is simply how the mechanics of the game play out. Take scum for example - Faust made it clear that when they flip, the flip will be their original PR, not whatever they may be now (after they absorb new PR's)... however if you were to UB a flipped scum, I assume you would get whatever their current PR was, not their original. So it probably worked the same with Mcmc - he flipped his original PR, even though he was technically a VT now and you UB's his VT.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #870 on: June 17, 2018, 04:01:07 pm »


Hydrad, Space: how's that neighborhood going? I think it's reasonably likely there's a scum there.


Looks like space hasn't really logged on yet since the day started.

I'm not so sure if theres scum anymore. With gkreig being town its making me really rethink my reads.

although I guess you can still think that I might be scum.

I've also thought about the possibility of a 3rd person being in it that has never talked. But I feel like scum would have probably tried to use it to gain some info I guess instead of just lurking.



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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #871 on: June 17, 2018, 06:48:00 pm »

This nk is super helpful to us,  other than having to lose a townie. I think a lot of people were looking to gkrieg next. I know I was.  And the Awaclus theory makes sense, too. Even night cop won't help them at all, either.

I'm thinking there was a redirect.

I kind of agree that a RD is likely. I did come up with a thought today - Skum could have a "role cop" or something of that nature, and they got the cop results back on GK or something so wanted to kill him?

Probably more likely RD, but just wanted to throw it out there.

Outside of that, I think it is weird because he would of been an easy target for skum to push today, as well as I don't see real issue in believing a "assumed" ReDirector would of chose him as the landing point.

All in all, if we had to lose a towny at night, this wasn't horrible.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #872 on: June 17, 2018, 06:50:50 pm »

What does "active" UB imply?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #873 on: June 17, 2018, 07:06:45 pm »

What does "active" UB imply?

I choose when to activate it as well as the target.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 4)
« Reply #874 on: June 17, 2018, 07:09:07 pm »

Agree Gkrieg probably copped Awaclus. He was clear about his Galz read being based on Galzria's play

Do you still think Galz is Skum?
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