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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #575 on: June 10, 2018, 12:32:10 pm »

Galzria's probably right (or scum), let's lynch Eevee though.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #576 on: June 10, 2018, 12:36:55 pm »

This is going to sound dumb at this point, but I've been turning around on gkrieg. He defended himself really well, reminding me a lot of when I pushed his lynch in jungle oligarchy and I was wrong about him. I'm not 100% he's town and still have a lot of misgivings about how much my tunnel was discredited. But sometimes my reads really do suck so there is that.

Vote: Eevee
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #577 on: June 10, 2018, 12:41:33 pm »

Request prods on EFHW, gkrieg13, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Robz, and IDontPlayThisGame.
EFHW, Awaclus, mcmc, Robz, Idplay have been prodded.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #578 on: June 10, 2018, 12:42:27 pm »

Both major wagons being on town is really, really common D1. It is maybe THE most common thing. McMc is super absent for IRL reasons, making him unable to defend himself.

Those are good reasons why scum may want to target him for a mislynch if he is town, and if it were not for a few towny people suggesting gkrieg, he would be the only option proposed.

Even if McMc himself isn't super towny the circumstances around his wagon should give people pause.

His wagon is also being fought against very hard by other people. Also your second paragraph is ridiculous. You go out of your way to make it sound like you and Hydrad and Datswan are heroes. Also the fact that wagons D1 are more likely to be town than one scum one town is equally flimsy. Does that just mean we should never lynch someone who had a wagon D1?  Why have you done such a 180 on mcmc?

I haven't done a 180 on him although I see where it looks like that. I just really don't think he's the best lynch today. I just get a vibe from his wagon that he is scum's choice for mislynch today.

Plus there was a lot of value in putting up a wagon and pushing everyone really hard to comment on it.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #579 on: June 10, 2018, 12:43:20 pm »

A non-McMc wagon that is
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #580 on: June 10, 2018, 12:48:55 pm »

Request prods on EFHW, gkrieg13, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Robz, and IDontPlayThisGame.
EFHW, Awaclus, mcmc, Robz, Idplay have been prodded.

I already posted though.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #581 on: June 10, 2018, 12:51:42 pm »

Request prods on EFHW, gkrieg13, Awaclus, mcmcsalot, Robz, and IDontPlayThisGame.
EFHW, Awaclus, mcmc, Robz, Idplay have been prodded.

I am just coming off of an announced VLA, though. I am here now I've read everything since last I posted--I think I missed some posts in there before, though, and probably have to re-read this day, if not the entire game. Needless to say, I'm pretty lost. Sorry for my abysmal performance.

As I mentioned before, I think the effort iguana is putting in is highly likely to be town, so if even he has turned against the gkrieg wagon, we should not lynch there.

Probably means we just have to vote mcmc. I don't think he's behaving like his town self, although his behavior could 100% be attributed to IRL stuff rather game stuff. Still, I've noticed that he hasn't really tried to engage me this game whatsoever, and I think scum mcmc is more likely to do that.

Vote: mcmc

I will go back to Eevee if that wagon becomes viable.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #582 on: June 10, 2018, 12:57:13 pm »

I like that gkrieg was clearly treating the neighbourhood aspect as important, while mcmc was working to downplay it, e.g. at #403 where he says that he thinks Jimmmmm being in a neighbouhood is coincidental, and in #404 where he says that "I doubt the kill was to do with his neighborhood".

I completely missed that mcmc said that. When mcmc was a Neighborizer in Smash Bros. Mafia and targeted me N1, he tried to convince me that he was town by saying that, if he was scum, he would have targeted a scumbuddy for Daychat. I find it hard to believe that town!mcmc would have such a change of heart.

Considering what others have been saying as well...

vote: mcmc

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #583 on: June 10, 2018, 12:57:42 pm »

And he was town in Smash Bros. Mafia.

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #584 on: June 10, 2018, 01:02:14 pm »

I like that gkrieg was clearly treating the neighbourhood aspect as important, while mcmc was working to downplay it, e.g. at #403 where he says that he thinks Jimmmmm being in a neighbouhood is coincidental, and in #404 where he says that "I doubt the kill was to do with his neighborhood".

I completely missed that mcmc said that. When mcmc was a Neighborizer in Smash Bros. Mafia and targeted me N1, he tried to convince me that he was town by saying that, if he was scum, he would have targeted a scumbuddy for Daychat. I find it hard to believe that town!mcmc would have such a change of heart.

Considering what others have been saying as well...

vote: mcmc

Oh, that's pretty damning.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #585 on: June 10, 2018, 01:26:14 pm »

Vote Count 2.4

gkrieg13 (2): DatSwan, Hydrad
Awaclus (1): Eevee
mcmcsalot (6): gkrieg13, Awaclus, SpaceAnemone, Galzria, Robz888, IDontPlayThisGame
Eevee (1): iguanaiguana

Not Voting (2): EFHW, mcmcsalot

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day 2 ends June 11, 2018, 03:30:00 am. That is in 14 hours.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #586 on: June 10, 2018, 01:29:14 pm »

I will not be here for deadline, but with mcmc at L-1 we might not get there.

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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #587 on: June 10, 2018, 02:53:14 pm »

This is going to sound dumb at this point, but I've been turning around on gkrieg. He defended himself really well, reminding me a lot of when I pushed his lynch in jungle oligarchy and I was wrong about him. I'm not 100% he's town and still have a lot of misgivings about how much my tunnel was discredited. But sometimes my reads really do suck so there is that.

Vote: Eevee

Sorry - still here. I'm at work all day, and then have a social event when I get off, but I'll have access all the way through to deadline and will be awake for this one.

If we can get more support here, I like the Eevee lynch more than I like the mcmc lynch.

Robz was on Eevee before and says he would go back if there's interest. With us on Eevee as well that's 3. Is there anybody else on/around that would be good with an Eevee lynch? We would need 4 more, which is a lot on a weekend this close to deadline.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #588 on: June 10, 2018, 02:54:41 pm »

1) Could you point to where I actually implied that I thought there might be more than two people?

2) What's your opinion of the gkrieg wagon?

1) I'd rather not do that.

That feels just weird, given that you've already quoted a post and responded asking me about it. I didn't really bother reading back over what I'd said straight after your post.. just assumed that I'd worded something weirdly given that I'd been chasing a number of possibilities around in my head. Now I've been and tried to see what wording I used, I'm more confused.

2) Not super excited about it.

Thanks for answering that one!
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #589 on: June 10, 2018, 02:57:43 pm »

If we can get more support here, I like the Eevee lynch more than I like the mcmc lynch.

I prefer the mcmc lynch. I'm just not sure on Eevee -- I don't think I know his play well enough to scumread him, and I've been scum with him one time!

OTOH, I have an additional point that makes me suspicious of mcmc that I'm not ready to explain in-thread. I would be very disappointed to see people divert from his lynch yet again here..
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #590 on: June 10, 2018, 02:59:31 pm »

I'm about to be offline for a few hours (heading to the cinema with friends), then I'll be back for a short while, but then offline till after deadline.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #591 on: June 10, 2018, 03:03:00 pm »

I just don't like the McMc wagon enough to hammer. I won't vote him today so I'm hoping for Eevee.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #592 on: June 10, 2018, 03:38:34 pm »

I’m here I’m town.

I want to vote:eevee he has been buddying super hard. And I don’t have the time to explain all the things.

All the people voting me did you see that I have much earlier claimed to have been targeted by something during the night. I also targeted someone during the night.

I can say more if needed.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #593 on: June 10, 2018, 03:44:21 pm »

wow I really am not a huge fan of either of these wagons.
gimme an hour to read back and I will get to it.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #594 on: June 10, 2018, 03:51:03 pm »

@McMc I would say anything you think it would help town to know once you are dead. You are likely lynched I think.

And you Eevee vote didn't count.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #595 on: June 10, 2018, 03:56:11 pm »

Sorry everyone. I've been super busy. I'm not feeling the gkrieg or mcmc wagons. Iguana, what makes you say Hydrad seems towny?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #596 on: June 10, 2018, 03:58:37 pm »

Sorry everyone. I've been super busy. I'm not feeling the gkrieg or mcmc wagons. Iguana, what makes you say Hydrad seems towny?

I made a post about that. What about Eevee?
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #597 on: June 10, 2018, 03:59:30 pm »

I see we're at L1, so I won't try to start new wagons. vote: Eevee.

I'll fully catch up in a bit. Want to have a vote down.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #598 on: June 10, 2018, 04:01:14 pm »


Hydrad hedges a lot. He doesn't look like scum here though because his activity level is high (for him) and the townie speculative thoughtfulness is there that he has trouble recreating as scum. We were scum together a few times back in 2015 so I feel like I got decently able to read him.

Also I just noticed that you basically laid out the theory I just posted already in a previous post.
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Re: RMM48: Cancer Mafia (Day 2)
« Reply #599 on: June 10, 2018, 04:08:12 pm »

If we can get more support here, I like the Eevee lynch more than I like the mcmc lynch.

I prefer the mcmc lynch. I'm just not sure on Eevee -- I don't think I know his play well enough to scumread him, and I've been scum with him one time!

OTOH, I have an additional point that makes me suspicious of mcmc that I'm not ready to explain in-thread. I would be very disappointed to see people divert from his lynch yet again here..
If you really think he is scum, then tell us why. This is too vague to influence my vote.
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