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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1525 on: August 13, 2020, 12:12:18 pm »

LaLight, could you restate everything you've learned so far, and who you have targeted each Night?

oh goodness, should I?

Well, yes, but I can simplify it based on what you said on our QT.

LL learned that:

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.

2. Awaclus registers as a host, even for the town's win condition, until something happens.

3. mail-mi enables hosts killing humans when he dies.

That's the gist of it anyway. I'm sure LL has a bunch of targets and guessed and whatnot.

I'll post more later.

But last night: watched Didds thinking if she is town host, they would try to NK her. (specifically lalight and faust). Got blocked, which faust has confirmed.

Why would you block my watching???
Because you're scum. Who do you suggest I should have blocked instead?

I'm not. Other than PoE, which doesn't seem as useful this game, why do you think this.


What else is useful then?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1526 on: August 13, 2020, 12:17:07 pm »

Day is guess, night is visiting and seeing if the owner of current ability targeted them.

D1: Guessed WCD (No)
N1: Visited Awaclus and MiX on Night 1(No/No)
D2: Guessed faust (No)
N2: Visited hypercube and jotheonah on Night 1 (No/No)
D3: Guessed joth (Yes, ability is bodyguard and if killed know who targeted them and their target)
N3: Visited faust and Awaclus on Night 2 (Yes/No)
D4: Guessed Awaclus (Yes, considered Human, if secret condition is met, then no more and while host do not meet the town wincon requirement)
N4: Visited: ADK and WCD on Night 3 (No/No)
D5: Guessed mail-mi (Yes, when he dies, hosts can kill humans)
N5: Visited MiX and mail-mi on Night 4 (asked if one played can have more than one ability I am looking for, got a yes for that) (No/No), also rezzed MiX.
D6: Guessed MiX, got his ability to kill hosts.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1527 on: August 13, 2020, 12:17:38 pm »

MiX, you messed up Awaclus' ability, it's the other way around.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1528 on: August 13, 2020, 12:18:09 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1529 on: August 13, 2020, 12:19:22 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

I am sorry???

Vote: faust, so it's you! That would explain it!
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1530 on: August 13, 2020, 12:20:02 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1531 on: August 13, 2020, 12:20:43 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

But not for their targets, innit?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1532 on: August 13, 2020, 12:21:30 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

so why would I lie? For what specific reason? I just made up one ability while making all the other correct? Or did I make them up to and suddenly guessed right with MiX, including the name of the ability?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1533 on: August 13, 2020, 12:21:39 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

But not for their targets, innit?
I don't know what you're trying to say.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1534 on: August 13, 2020, 12:22:13 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

so why would I lie? For what specific reason? I just made up one ability while making all the other correct? Or did I make them up to and suddenly guessed right with MiX, including the name of the ability?
Cause you didn't want to reveal joth's actual power? And the other guesses were all townies so you didn't mind?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1535 on: August 13, 2020, 12:23:10 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

so why would I lie? For what specific reason? I just made up one ability while making all the other correct? Or did I make them up to and suddenly guessed right with MiX, including the name of the ability?
Cause you didn't want to reveal joth's actual power? And the other guesses were all townies so you didn't mind?

well, how does it make sense that I targeted him at all then? Wouldn't I try to guess as many townsfolk as I can instead and not target my partners?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1536 on: August 13, 2020, 12:23:30 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

No. I think joth and Didds had different ways of seeing who picked them.

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

That's true, I suppose.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1537 on: August 13, 2020, 12:24:11 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

But not for their targets, innit?
I don't know what you're trying to say.

joth's power lets him see who targeted him and his target if he is killed.

It makes sense if we have vigs so scum will know who they are. Also makes sense if scum has more and less important players.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1538 on: August 13, 2020, 12:24:52 pm »

I may have a slight problem with rewording abilities. I asked if I can just copypaste, but I don't expect the positive answer
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1539 on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:16 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

But not for their targets, innit?
I don't know what you're trying to say.

joth's power lets him see who targeted him and his target if he is killed.

It makes sense if we have vigs so scum will know who they are. Also makes sense if scum has more and less important players.

But we don't have vigs, so it makes zero sense.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1540 on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:32 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

Trust me, I have NO idea.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1541 on: August 13, 2020, 12:25:44 pm »

1. joth is a bodyguard that learns who picked him if his bodyguard works.
Well, see this part is curious, since Didds seemed to imply earlier that there is something called Reveries for all hosts that allows them to see who targeted them. Then this wouldn't be specific to joth. Do you have anything like that, MiX?

Anyways I think Vote: LaLight for now.

But not for their targets, innit?
I don't know what you're trying to say.

joth's power lets him see who targeted him and his target if he is killed.

It makes sense if we have vigs so scum will know who they are. Also makes sense if scum has more and less important players.

But we don't have vigs, so it makes zero sense.

what about you?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1542 on: August 13, 2020, 12:26:35 pm »

I'm a dayvig, you can't bodyguard those!
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1543 on: August 13, 2020, 12:26:39 pm »

ah, you're a dayvig. Well, I don't know. I was truthful the whole game, I guess sometimes things don't make sense. Maybe joth is town and mail-mi is scum after all.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1544 on: August 13, 2020, 12:27:09 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

so why would I lie? For what specific reason? I just made up one ability while making all the other correct? Or did I make them up to and suddenly guessed right with MiX, including the name of the ability?
Cause you didn't want to reveal joth's actual power? And the other guesses were all townies so you didn't mind?

well, how does it make sense that I targeted him at all then? Wouldn't I try to guess as many townsfolk as I can instead and not target my partners?
I mean... no? You might still have to guess your scumpartner's power before you can guess town's, I don't see how that's a problem.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1545 on: August 13, 2020, 12:27:41 pm »

ah, you're a dayvig. Well, I don't know. I was truthful the whole game, I guess sometimes things don't make sense. Maybe joth is town and mail-mi is scum after all.

This game is definitely ???????

Why would you even revive me as scum?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1546 on: August 13, 2020, 12:28:21 pm »

so, let's imagine the following scenario: if you lynch me and know I am town, you will se I told the truth and that makes joth town?

what if Arch put this ability to joth for the sole reason so this is the first ability I should guess to throw us off? What if scum has a way to alter what I see?
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1547 on: August 13, 2020, 12:29:01 pm »

Why would scum!joth even be a Bodyguard to begin with? The whole thing sounds kind of dodgy.

so why would I lie? For what specific reason? I just made up one ability while making all the other correct? Or did I make them up to and suddenly guessed right with MiX, including the name of the ability?
Cause you didn't want to reveal joth's actual power? And the other guesses were all townies so you didn't mind?

well, how does it make sense that I targeted him at all then? Wouldn't I try to guess as many townsfolk as I can instead and not target my partners?
I mean... no? You might still have to guess your scumpartner's power before you can guess town's, I don't see how that's a problem.

of course, but before that I would target each and every townsperson to not waste my guesses and visits if the first power is town's.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1548 on: August 13, 2020, 12:29:19 pm »

ah, you're a dayvig. Well, I don't know. I was truthful the whole game, I guess sometimes things don't make sense. Maybe joth is town and mail-mi is scum after all.

This game is definitely ???????

Why would you even revive me as scum?

you tell me. and faust.
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Re: RMM57: Westworld Mafia (Day 6)
« Reply #1549 on: August 13, 2020, 12:29:25 pm »

ah, you're a dayvig. Well, I don't know. I was truthful the whole game, I guess sometimes things don't make sense. Maybe joth is town and mail-mi is scum after all.

This game is definitely ???????

Why would you even revive me as scum?
I mean, theory is that scum is waiting to be able to revive joth so they can massacre. Then it doesn't really make a difference whether to revive you, might as well do it for the towncred.
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