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[ashersky]

D3:

Voted raptor, basically stayed there, although again made one argument for Dylan over raptor.  They quickly switched course when that looked bad (I think) and came up with fairly solid reasons for raptor first in the 1v1.  I'd say those reasons evened out the one scummy post defending raptor.

Then there is a scummy lob right at the end of the day before the flip, calling out WCD.  The content isn't scummy so much as the odd way it is tossed out in a non sequitur way.  I call it "planting the seed of suspicion" and it is a scum tactic.  Town can do it, too, on purpose or not, but it is a legit tactic.

That's my takeaway from D3.

(I will note that my ISO style is read all/only posts by the ISO person first, then re-read all/only posts that mention the ISO person.  I'm on the first part, obviously.)

I mean after we got Joseph regardless of who the third skum was the plan had to be to bus the shit out of raptor if the day started the way they thought it would right? You think more vote or more bus with scola sit/vote?

Your abbreviations are confusing.

I think a vast majority of the time, once Joseph went down the plan would be to hard~bus raptor due to the missed hammer looking scummy.  There are other options -- soft~bus while seeding doubt by using technically legit arguments like "hey town forgets too" or "man it doesn't make sense for scum to do that."  You could just straight up refuse to bus, which would be a reverse-psychology too scummy to be scum move, which is popular in some sets. 

If scola is scum, they went soft~bus at first, saw the error of those ways, then switched gears.  I'm not sure that's what happened, but there's a narrative there that could fit.

I don't know what "more vote or more bus" means, but I hope that answers your question.

[ashersky]

So, to Ash's read:

It's definitely correct that I didn't understand the set up when we started. There was a point later that someone (MiX?) made post explaining some aspect, when it all clicked, and then yes, it did make complete sense. So I'd say a combo of being taught / quick learner.

The WCD thing was because I wanted to get the idea out there in case I was killed at night. I had been thinking it for a while, and if I died wanted to at least get it on people's radar. Since then, of course, I've read her as the towniest of the bunch (outside of claiming Dylan).

And lastly, the posting more: I think that's just my style. a) I have more of a feel for the particular game after serveral "days" and b) with more people, I can usually just try to follow other people and give 2 cents here and there. Once you play enough with me, you'll see this is NAI.


PPE a lot, as I got distracted by me Dominion league games - good news, went 2-0!

Emojis are scummy.  (Is that still a thing?)

Seriously though, this post has such a different tone than any other post that I read, I don't understand what it means.  I'd say it reads like it was written by someone else super nice (like Space or Didds or something).  Not to say scola isn't nice or anything, but their tone has definitely been very different.

Again, probably NAI, but it really stuck out to me.

[ashersky]

Agreed. Ash went all in on a MiX case D4. Said he’d eat his hat.

So, vote: MiX

Not my hat, a hat.  Someone would need to ship me one.

[ashersky]

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

[ashersky]

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

This also coincides with the WNGAP.

[MiX]

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

This also coincides with the WNGAP.

Are these joke acronyms or am I missing something.

Agreed. Ash went all in on a MiX case D4. Said he’d eat his hat.

So, vote: MiX

Not my hat, a hat.  Someone would need to ship me one.

The hat. The one that you end up eating.

I'd arrange the shipping if I expected to be lynched this game.

[ashersky]

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

Another point against MiX: the FISP is definitely in effect now.

This also coincides with the WNGAP.

Are these joke acronyms or am I missing something.

These are real.  You are missing something.

[MiX]

What do they mean.

[ashersky]

FISP: The Faust is Scum Principle.  As more days pass and faust has not been NKed, the higher his likelihood to be scum.

WNGAP: The Wagons Never Go Anywhere Principle.  When a player has wagons most days but never gets lynched (i.e., reaches L-1 often but doesn't die, has multiple votes every day but never lynched), the likelihood they are scum is higher.

I'm fairly sure these are scientifically provable.

[MiX]

FISP: The Faust is Scum Principle.  As more days pass and faust has not been NKed, the higher his likelihood to be scum.

WNGAP: The Wagons Never Go Anywhere Principle.  When a player has wagons most days but never gets lynched (i.e., reaches L-1 often but doesn't die, has multiple votes every day but never lynched), the likelihood they are scum is higher.

I'm fairly sure these are scientifically provable.

FISP is outdated, but you did update it. It doesn't actually work because you were scumreading me D3.

WNGAP doesn't exist if there's only 1 scum alive.

Yeah, you're scum. I'm not moving my vote.

[WestCoastDidds]

Agreed. Ash went all in on a MiX case D4. Said he’d eat his hat.

So, vote: MiX

Not my hat, a hat.  Someone would need to ship me one.

OMG, that is awesome.

[Swowl]

and I am not hiding information. I have a thought process leading to an idea. I am hiding the idea. and I am hiding it because it is equally valueless rn as it would be if it never got said, but after today, it could have value.

Yeah well whatever that thought process says you should lynch ash. The fact that Raptor had to save Joseph probably means the other scum was away, which is literally just cayvie in D1.

counter argument.

Vote: Yuma

[MiX]

and I am not hiding information. I have a thought process leading to an idea. I am hiding the idea. and I am hiding it because it is equally valueless rn as it would be if it never got said, but after today, it could have value.

Yeah well whatever that thought process says you should lynch ash. The fact that Raptor had to save Joseph probably means the other scum was away, which is literally just cayvie in D1.

counter argument.

Vote: Yuma

Hey remember when LL was town.

I do.

[yuma]

and I am not hiding information. I have a thought process leading to an idea. I am hiding the idea. and I am hiding it because it is equally valueless rn as it would be if it never got said, but after today, it could have value.

Yeah well whatever that thought process says you should lynch ash. The fact that Raptor had to save Joseph probably means the other scum was away, which is literally just cayvie in D1.

counter argument.

Vote: Yuma

 

[Dylan32]

Honestly, the way things have gone, I think Ash is most likely of the three to actually flip scum, but since we can just go down the line I'm fine going yuma first to rule out the too scummy to be scum is really scum scenario first.  For what it's worth yuma, I've read your posts as towny; D2 you were my strongest town read until Joseph and raptor flipped and I read your D2 start in that context...

[yuma]

Honestly, the way things have gone, I think Ash is most likely of the three to actually flip scum, but since we can just go down the line I'm fine going yuma first to rule out the too scummy to be scum is really scum scenario first.  For what it's worth yuma, I've read your posts as towny; D2 you were my strongest town read until Joseph and raptor flipped and I read your D2 start in that context...

I know. Just lynch whomever quickly tomorrow and the next day if necessary so the game doesn't go on toooo long with out me.

[WestCoastDidds]

Yuma, are you gonna be playing with us some more? It’s been nice getting to know you and the OG clearly dig you.

Also, we need more drunk/kite mafia dates!

[WestCoastDidds]

That’s L-1, yeah?

[yuma]

Yuma, are you gonna be playing with us some more? It’s been nice getting to know you and the OG clearly dig you.

Also, we need more drunk/kite mafia dates!

Yeah. I'll stick around.

And yes. I am there right now!

[yuma]

I am town. I am town. I am town.

[scolapasta]

I feel if I had a lot more experience with ya'll, I'd have a much better chance of figuring out some of these crazy scenarios I have in my head. But alas... we'll see in a few games. For now, I'll follow Swan's lead (I mean the bloc was my idea after all):

Vote: yuma

[yuma]

sad day

[yuma]

MiX before ash

[WestCoastDidds]

Yuma, are you gonna be playing with us some more? It’s been nice getting to know you and the OG clearly dig you.

Also, we need more drunk/kite mafia dates!

Yeah. I'll stick around.

And yes. I am there right now!

Friday night! Of course in lockdown every day is Snathurday

[WestCoastDidds]

MiX before ash

Best reason? (Say it’s the hat eating, say it’s the hat eating!)