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[faust]

If you are voting me because of whatever cayvie did, there is not much I can do about that.

There's not, but you seem to imply that I should disregard it, which is obviously bad play.

[ashersky]

If you are voting me because of whatever cayvie did, there is not much I can do about that.

There's not, but you seem to imply that I should disregard it, which is obviously bad play.

Well, being me now, I would like you to, obviously.  I can't undo it, as it wasn't me.  So, a fresh start, if you will.  (You won't.)

What did she do that was scummy, anyway?

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote Count 2.1

Xxraptorslayer96 (1): scolapasta
LaLight (1): yuma
Joseph2302 (3): MiX, WestCoastDidds, LaLight
ashersky (1): faust

Not Voting (4): Joseph2302, Dylan32, Xxraptorslayer96, DatSwan, ashersky

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Day Two ends at 8 pm forum time April 25th.

[Dylan32]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

[ashersky]

vote: joseph

[Dylan32]

That's L-1

[faust]

Well, ash... your loss.

Vote: Joseph

[faust]

As for townreading you -- forum rules and all, but I think I basically am 100% always correct about you.

I had to go back and check the five most recent games we played together (where you were town):

RMM53: I'm scum, ash doesn't scumread me until D4.
M120: I'm town, ash scumreads me
M111: I'm town, ash expresses no opinion on me.
RMM43: I'm scum, ash townreads me D1, scumreads me D3.
M91: I'm town, ash scumreads me.

Def 100% record 

[Joseph2302]

Looks like I'm dead
If not, Vote: raptor

Just because I'll flip town, doesn't mean they shouldn't have hammered me D1
We have just wasted a day and given scum and extra NK

[Joseph2302]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

Vote: Dylan then. Lies

[MiX]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

Bah, I don't think that was a good claim.

Looks like I'm dead
If not, Vote: raptor

Just because I'll flip town, doesn't mean they shouldn't have hammered me D1
We have just wasted a day and given scum and extra NK

We forced a scum 1v1 so uh if you're town raptor MVP and dylan is weird. But lol you're scum.

Swan IC, Dylan NOT IC, I expect a doctor to do their work tonight.

I feel bad that dylan claimed when he did. It was definitely the worst time to do so I think, since I don't think that's a particularly towny claim, but oh well.

Good night everyone!

[Dylan32]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

Vote: Dylan then. Lies

There's no point in even really talking about this, but for fun: there's probably some people here who remember the last time I fake claimed 1-shot cop and a fake guilty result as scum. Didn't go well for me at all and pretty directly took it from a reasonably easy scum win at that point to a loss. No chance I do that again my next scum game haha.

ppe 1

[MiX]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

Vote: Dylan then. Lies

There's no point in even really talking about this, but for fun: there's probably some people here who remember the last time I fake claimed 1-shot cop and a fake guilty result as scum. Didn't go well for me at all and pretty directly took it from a reasonably easy scum win at that point to a loss. No chance I do that again my next scum game haha.

ppe 1

I sorta remember your last scum game, was it that one? I guess not since that game wasn't scum sided at any point IIRC.

Also, the memory I have of "your last scum game" is what makes you unlynchable in my eyes. Take that as you will.

[Dylan32]

Haven't read the start of the day, but I am a 1-shot cop and got a guilty result on Joseph. Catching up now.

Vote: Joseph

Vote: Dylan then. Lies

There's no point in even really talking about this, but for fun: there's probably some people here who remember the last time I fake claimed 1-shot cop and a fake guilty result as scum. Didn't go well for me at all and pretty directly took it from a reasonably easy scum win at that point to a loss. No chance I do that again my next scum game haha.

ppe 1

I sorta remember your last scum game, was it that one? I guess not since that game wasn't scum sided at any point IIRC.

Also, the memory I have of "your last scum game" is what makes you unlynchable in my eyes. Take that as you will.

All I remember is Joth was on my scum team, and if my gambit had worked and we lynched the guy I tried to frame, the game was over on an endgame unless a PR blocked a NK

[Dylan32]

btw, yuma is either scum making their best argument or town overthinking:

If I were mafia the lynches I would be pushing for and supporting would be joseph and raptor. They are the lynches that have the least resistant. They could still be scum if they are, but that is dice rolling, not evidence based. I won't be voting for either today.

[MiX]

All I remember is Joth was on my scum team, and if my gambit had worked and we lynched the guy I tried to frame, the game was over on an endgame unless a PR blocked a NK

The game I remember also had joth on your scumteam, so maybe it IS the same game!

I loved joth trying very hard to not claim scum. Might be one of the few pre-me games I remember more than vaguely due to rereading it multiple times when I was trying to metaread people.

btw, yuma is either scum making their best argument or town overthinking:

If I were mafia the lynches I would be pushing for and supporting would be joseph and raptor. They are the lynches that have the least resistant. They could still be scum if they are, but that is dice rolling, not evidence based. I won't be voting for either today.

Yuma is either scum or town, I agree. On a closed setup this would be information but on this one it's not.

[Dylan32]

vote: raptor

Vote: LaLight, raptor is the least scummy out of the no-lynch crew.
...

You were saying later this would change if Joseph flips scum right? Just wanted to make sure I understood what you were saying.

[MiX]

vote: raptor

Vote: LaLight, raptor is the least scummy out of the no-lynch crew.
...

You were saying later this would change if Joseph flips scum right? Just wanted to make sure I understood what you were saying.

Yes, if Joseph is scum, so is raptor.

[Dylan32]

All I remember is Joth was on my scum team, and if my gambit had worked and we lynched the guy I tried to frame, the game was over on an endgame unless a PR blocked a NK

The game I remember also had joth on your scumteam, so maybe it IS the same game!

I loved joth trying very hard to not claim scum. Might be one of the few pre-me games I remember more than vaguely due to rereading it multiple times when I was trying to metaread people.

btw, yuma is either scum making their best argument or town overthinking:

If I were mafia the lynches I would be pushing for and supporting would be joseph and raptor. They are the lynches that have the least resistant. They could still be scum if they are, but that is dice rolling, not evidence based. I won't be voting for either today.

Yuma is either scum or town, I agree. On a closed setup this would be information but on this one it's not.

I mean, yeah lol. I think my point is that his reasoning lines up with how I would be trying to play this off if I were scum with Joseph right now.  It is possible he's overthinking it, which I would think based on how I was reading him D1, but unless I overhyped his reputation in my mind, I feel like he's more likely making the best scum play than happening into scum's best argument as town.

[Dylan32]

Since we should be in twilight I can wonder out loud, has a real cop ever claimed 1-shot early on in order to share a guilty result and be allowed to live another day?

[Dylan32]

Anyway, I probably won't be back on until after the flip, so later!

[MiX]

Since we should be in twilight I can wonder out loud, has a real cop ever claimed 1-shot early on in order to share a guilty result and be allowed to live another day?

Not that I remember, but it's usually something on people's minds, and was mentioned in M125.

Anyway, I probably won't be back on until after the flip, so later!

Good night, and I hope you die!

[yuma]

Well if I am wrong then I am wrong and glad there is a result so I dont have to try and argue it. It very well could be a situation where scum got themselves into a shitty situation. But it is still the easiest lynch to push through if Joseph and raptor aren't mafia, which makes me not like it. But if they are, then they are.

[yuma]

And my reputation is totally overhyped. My win and lynch record are pretty average.

[Joseph2302]

Since we should be in twilight I can wonder out loud, has a real cop ever claimed 1-shot early on in order to share a guilty result and be allowed to live another day?

You're not a real cop