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[Eevee]

Didn't he pretty much agree to jailkeep me?

Yeah, but he may he may have changed his mind.

I mean, since the kills went through I'm pretty sure he didn't, but it would be better if he was more explicit so I would be cleared.

Wither I think is cleared from being mafia and not particularly implicated for SK,
and Jimm is an IC so I think both faust and ash make for great lynches. I think faust is the mafia and ash is the SK.

[Eevee]

It's easier to find the last mafia as we can analyze interactions, so I think we should try to do that. After all, despite not probably being mafia, WW could still be the SK, other than ash being jailkept N1 either as the target or the killer, we really have no evidence towards anyone for the SK. Well, there is the lack of kills when I was jailed N2, but I of course know I'm town and I hope silver saying he'd jail is enough evidence for you guys to trust me.

So, I'm in favor of Vote: faust. I said this yesterday already, he fits the best for Hydrad's partner. If this succeeds, we'll have a 3 person lylo tomorrow, a great climax for a great great game.

[Witherweaver]

In case it isn't clear, if ADK was double killed, Ash is cleared.

[Witherweaver]

Also, can someone verify that my assumption that last Mafia cannot both Roleblock and Kill last night is correct?  Is there an exception if you're the last one alive?

If not, Eevee is not necessarily (pseudo) cleared as Silver could have been Roleblocked.

[Eevee]

In case it isn't clear, if ADK was double killed, Ash is cleared.

Oh, true!

[Witherweaver]

Well, short of Silver getting Roleblocked Night 1. We don't know who Ichi targeted Night 1.  Possibly Ash, since he claimed to target him with Psych and could have been worried about Watcher exposing a lie.  We don't know Night 2, either, but best guess is Joth, since Joth got no result.  Only other explanation is Eevee being SK and using 1-shot commute.

[ashersky]

I would assume block and kill is allowed.

It would be good to know.  The kill flavor things is a good catch.  No way scum points that out, I think.

I'm looking at eevee still, based on day 2.

[ashersky]

Faust is a conundrum.  Definitely scary as sK.

Finding hydrad's partner should be the easier task anyway.

[Eevee]

I think what faust did regarding Hydrad is almost more damning my vehement opposion of the lynch.

[Eevee]

You know, going all out guns blazing against the lynch versus quietly trying to deflect it to someone else.

It's not super advantageous for scum to tie yourself to your partner the way I tied myself to Hydrad.

[Witherweaver]

Faust also the only one not voting for Ichi, and fairly not present yesterday with a lot of comments about needing to read and think.  I think Faust is a good candidate for Mafia.

Though, there is still ambiguity from Mafia member as to whether Ichi was SK or Traitor, so we have to be somewhat careful about connections there.

[Witherweaver]

You know, going all out guns blazing against the lynch versus quietly trying to deflect it to someone else.

It's not super advantageous for scum to tie yourself to your partner the way I tied myself to Hydrad.

Can you cite?

[Eevee]

You know, going all out guns blazing against the lynch versus quietly trying to deflect it to someone else.

It's not super advantageous for scum to tie yourself to your partner the way I tied myself to Hydrad.

Can you cite?

Sure, when I get to my computer, couple hours max.

[Eevee]

Okay, posting these in chronological order. If you want to reread IG's claim and Hydrad's lynch, just click on the first post I quote.

I still think lynching WW is a good option here. I want to vote Jimmmmm for super lurking and not contributing, but sadly, that's not an alignment tell. joth could be scum, a little afraid of that - the stalling also supports his cause, because it means we will likely lynch Ichi. So yeah, I'd vote any of these I guess. I like WW best though.

For reference, the vote count at that time:

Vote Count 2.3

Witherweaver (1): faust
Jimmmmm (2): Hydrad, Ichimaru Gin
Hydrad (2): silverspawn, Witherweaver
Ichimaru Gin (1): jotheonah
ashersky (1): Jimmmmm

Not Voting (2): ashersky, Eevee

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. Day 2 ends on Wednesday, October 15, 7:30 PM FT.

silver reacting to the vote count:

vote: Ichimaru Gin

faust reacting to silver's vote:

Yeah, let's start some wagons.

Vote: Jimmmmm

this could honestly be a scum slip. I'm not sure it is, but it could be. I already thought you were scum before though.

This is scummy... no way that was a scumslip.

Vote: silverspawn let's try this.

Want to lynch: WW, silverspawn, Jimmmmm

Would lynch: Hydrad, joth, ash

Won't lynch: Eevee, IG

This is after IG claimed:

Well, that was unnecessary.

Vote: Jimmmmm for now.

And then nothing until ash and Jimm guide us to correctly lynching Hydrad.

[Witherweaver]

Yeah, Faust looks all around bad.

[2.71828.....]

e: Could you retroactively add flavor to the Day starts?  According to the setup, we should have the information on whether or not ADK was double targeted or single targeted:

Flavor will indicate if a player was killed by multiple factions, but will not indicate which alignment performed specific kills.

Read the quote again carefully, then think about the flavor that was included/not included.  You have your answer.


(to be abundantly clear, flavor is not required to show when a player was killed by a single faction)

[Witherweaver]

Okay, so I am concluding that ADK was not killed by multiple factions, so Ashersky is not cleared.

[2.71828.....]

Hydrad will be choosing a mod color and doing votecounts for you guys this weekend.

[Eevee]

Crickets?

[Eevee]

Where is everyone but me and WW!

[Witherweaver]

Jimmmmm, thought?

We also need to explain two no kills Night 2 and Joth being RBd.  We know now traitor wasn't shot

[Witherweaver]

Assuming Ichi targeted Joth ..

(1) Eevee is SK, Mafia targeted Eevee
(2) Eevee not SK:
(a) Mafia+SK targeted Eevee,
(b) Mafia target Eevee, SK did not shoot for ability
(c) Mafia target SK, who commuted or used BP shot
(d) SK Jailkept (RB) Mafia

Also, SK could have Jailkept Joth instead of Ichi.  But SK would probably not choose to use JK shot .  Unless they wanted to obfuscate setup.

[faust]

But I think that's most likely, which makes it Ash/Faust.

You are very quick with jumping to conclusions here. We don't even know yet if the Roleblocker can block and kill, right?

[faust]

I think what faust did regarding Hydrad is almost more damning my vehement opposion of the lynch.

"Almost more damning"? That's a very interesting choice of words you're using here.

[faust]

Faust also the only one not voting for Ichi, and fairly not present yesterday with a lot of comments about needing to read and think.  I think Faust is a good candidate for Mafia.

Though, there is still ambiguity from Mafia member as to whether Ichi was SK or Traitor, so we have to be somewhat careful about connections there.

That is highly unfair. Reread. I was contributing a lot in the earlier stages of the game, then life was busy, and I said I didn't have time and asked you to wait. But you went ahead and lynched Ichi.