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[Galzria]

I'll switch back to Iguana, yes

[Galzria]

I strongly prefer Iguana >> Jake >>> Gkrieg

Gkrieg is a scapegoat lynch used by people like WW and Iguana to pull away from Jake over the weekend when the thread got quiet as it always does during that time.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not really, no

[Haddock]

for now.  I need to read iguana real fast

I read iguana real fast.  I think he is more likely town than gkrieg or jake

This is the problem.  In isolation, he reads very towny.  I need to think about this more, probably over the night.  It's his interactions with other reads of mine that I find scummy.

[Witherweaver]

I strongly prefer Iguana >> Jake >>> Gkrieg

Gkrieg is a scapegoat lynch used by people like WW and Iguana to pull away from Jake over the weekend when the thread got quiet as it always does during that time.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not really, no

What I am saying is fact, what you are saying is blatant (and incorrect) speculation.

Well, from my end. I can't speak for Iguana.

[Witherweaver]

for now.  I need to read iguana real fast

I read iguana real fast.  I think he is more likely town than gkrieg or jake

This is the problem.  In isolation, he reads very towny.  I need to think about this more, probably over the night.  It's his interactions with other reads of mine that I find scummy.

Which is a bit problematic since you don't know how correct your reads are.

[iguanaiguana]

vote: jake

Good luck with that real fast part.

I would lynch Jake over no lynch or iguana(EFHW?) lynch.

My townread on him is based on pretty weak evidence.

[Haddock]

for now.  I need to read iguana real fast

I read iguana real fast.  I think he is more likely town than gkrieg or jake

This is the problem.  In isolation, he reads very towny.  I need to think about this more, probably over the night.  It's his interactions with other reads of mine that I find scummy.

Which is a bit problematic since you don't know how correct your reads are.

I know this.  But that doesn't prevent my paranoia.

[iguanaiguana]

for now.  I need to read iguana real fast

I read iguana real fast.  I think he is more likely town than gkrieg or jake

This is the problem.  In isolation, he reads very towny.  I need to think about this more, probably over the night.  It's his interactions with other reads of mine that I find scummy.

It's all fuxking role related,  Haddock. Can you at least give me that much benefit of the doubt?

[Galzria]

I strongly prefer Iguana >> Jake >>> Gkrieg

Gkrieg is a scapegoat lynch used by people like WW and Iguana to pull away from Jake over the weekend when the thread got quiet as it always does during that time.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not really, no

What I am saying is fact, what you are saying is blatant (and incorrect) speculation.

Well, from my end. I can't speak for Iguana.

In what way is what I've said "blatant and incorrect speculation"?

Wagon was strongly on Jake? Check
Thread died down as it always does over the weekend? Check
WW and Iguana used the quiet space to delegitimize the Jake lynch? Check

[Haddock]

for now.  I need to read iguana real fast

I read iguana real fast.  I think he is more likely town than gkrieg or jake

This is the problem.  In isolation, he reads very towny.  I need to think about this more, probably over the night.  It's his interactions with other reads of mine that I find scummy.

It's all fuxking role related,  Haddock. Can you at least give me that much benefit of the doubt?

Not right now, I can't.  I will lynch you if the alternative is a no lynch.  Frankly, with the PoE at play, any of the three lynches on the table are fine.

[Witherweaver]

If anyone is confused about what happened (since everyone seems to be), it is this:

Haddock is town. He has results which I'm assuming are correct.  This makes one of the list {Jake, Gkrieg, Iguana, Silver} necessarily scum.

I observed this an initially voted Jake, without reading, because from vague impressions it seemed like the best bet from those. A bunch of people voted Jake, he was put at L-1, I wasn't too thrilled about that because it was very early in the day and I wanted to read.

After the response to Jake's wagon and rereading I preferred Gkrieg over Jake. Notably, that preference has gotten smaller since I had the realization last night that Jake's softclaim hint seemed a bit like laying groundwork for an upcoming fakeclaim.

I'm not using Gkrieg to deflect from a Jake lynch. I started the Jake lynch in the first place.

You can argue that it looks partnerish, but that's simply wrong. And also weak since we haven't seen either of their flips.

[Witherweaver]

I strongly prefer Iguana >> Jake >>> Gkrieg

Gkrieg is a scapegoat lynch used by people like WW and Iguana to pull away from Jake over the weekend when the thread got quiet as it always does during that time.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not really, no

What I am saying is fact, what you are saying is blatant (and incorrect) speculation.

Well, from my end. I can't speak for Iguana.

In what way is what I've said "blatant and incorrect speculation"?

Wagon was strongly on Jake? Check
Thread died down as it always does over the weekend? Check
WW and Iguana used the quiet space to delegitimize the Jake lynch? Check

I mean that's just how fucking english works.  "Scapegoat".

I'm getting sick of Mafia.

[2.71828.....]

I strongly prefer Iguana >> Jake >>> Gkrieg

Gkrieg is a scapegoat lynch used by people like WW and Iguana to pull away from Jake over the weekend when the thread got quiet as it always does during that time.

This is a misrepresentation.

Not really, no

What I am saying is fact, what you are saying is blatant (and incorrect) speculation.

Well, from my end. I can't speak for Iguana.

In what way is what I've said "blatant and incorrect speculation"?

Wagon was strongly on Jake? Check
Thread died down as it always does over the weekend? Check
WW and Iguana used the quiet space to delegitimize the Jake lynch? Check

I think witherweaver is a person to be very careful about at this point.  I am suspicious of him.  Not to lynch today, but like....tomorrow?

[Witherweaver]

I mean, forgive me for trying to be careful and actually read and figure things out.

[Witherweaver]

What is Jake at now?

[Witherweaver]

I have another reason to prefer Gkrieg to Jake (this is quite weak, not a huge decision maker), but I will not say more about it at this point.

[2.71828.....]

I mean, forgive me for trying to be careful and actually read and figure things out.

yeah, I reread you real fast and I liked most everything about what you said.  I need to reread everyone else first.  You are on the list of "could be scum still, nothing proves you are town, I need to watch out for you"

Not the "lynch now" list

[JaketheBaseballGod22]

Vote: Gkrieg Prefer him over iguana. Overall would prefer a WW or EFHW Lynch.

[Galzria]

If anyone is confused about what happened (since everyone seems to be), it is this:

Haddock is town. He has results which I'm assuming are correct.  This makes one of the list {Jake, Gkrieg, Iguana, Silver} necessarily scum.

I observed this an initially voted Jake, without reading, because from vague impressions it seemed like the best bet from those. A bunch of people voted Jake, he was put at L-1, I wasn't too thrilled about that because it was very early in the day and I wanted to read.

After the response to Jake's wagon and rereading I preferred Gkrieg over Jake. Notably, that preference has gotten smaller since I had the realization last night that Jake's softclaim hint seemed a bit like laying groundwork for an upcoming fakeclaim.

I'm not using Gkrieg to deflect from a Jake lynch. I started the Jake lynch in the first place.

You can argue that it looks partnerish, but that's simply wrong. And also weak since we haven't seen either of their flips.

None of that makes what I said inaccurate.

[2.71828.....]

but yeah, I will switch to gkrieg or stay on jake at this point.  not a huge fan of iguana getting lynched

[Haddock]

What is Jake at now?

3 I think.  With a total of 5 people willing to lynch him.  So, still not enough.

Vote: Gkrieg Prefer him over iguana. Overall would prefer a WW or EFHW Lynch.

Finally.

The part about WW or EFHW is unhelpful and distracting.  We are lynching one of gkrieg, you or iguana.

[Witherweaver]

Vote: Gkrieg Prefer him over iguana. Overall would prefer a WW or EFHW Lynch.

These are I believe the only reads he's presented all game; it's been the same since whenever he first did it.

(This is from memory.)

[2.71828.....]

Vote: Gkrieg Prefer him over iguana. Overall would prefer a WW or EFHW Lynch.

If you want an EFHW lynch you should vote for iguana. 

[2.71828.....]

Vote: Gkrieg Prefer him over iguana. Overall would prefer a WW or EFHW Lynch.

These are I believe the only reads he's presented all game; it's been the same since whenever he first did it.

(This is from memory.)

yeah, so lets lynch jake

[Haddock]

Vote Count 3.haddock

gkrieg13 (6): iguanaiguana, EFHW, Awaclus, Witherweaver, Haddock, Space, Jake
iguanaiguana (2): DatSwan, chairs
Jake (3): gkrieg, Galzria, e

Others who have expressed interest in voting Jake (3): Haddock, Space.
Not Voting: Dylan, frozens.

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