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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #925 on: November 25, 2017, 07:46:22 am »

Okay, so assuming nobody else somehow reverses my lynch, I'll come out with what I was suspicious of Galz over, since my flip will explain my line of thinking there anyway.

I know from faust that items remain with their holder when their holder dies.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #926 on: November 25, 2017, 08:52:28 am »

You mean, like, defacto?  Because otherwise that's a direct counterclaim.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #927 on: November 25, 2017, 10:35:29 am »

Seems more likely to me that Faust means "unless a role says otherwise".

There's no way he'd guarantee the nonexistence of such a role to another player.

Unless this is somehow coming from Space's ability. Can you clarify, Space? Is that information something you got from an ability of yours or from just asking the mod questions in the usual way?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #928 on: November 25, 2017, 10:36:06 am »

To paraphrase a lot, the explanation I got in my QT was that the items might stay with their owner because of a game mechanic, but that I can't necessarily know about what role mechanics would mess with that. So given that Galz getting items is stated as a role mechanic, it might still be possible that he's not lying. Faust certainly stated it in a way that made me doubt my initial thrill at having caught out a scum :-(
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 2)
« Reply #929 on: November 25, 2017, 11:42:14 am »

You, there... You have some special talents that would help... say... reanimate people, is that not right? Maybe we can work something out here. Just follow us and...

Huh? Argh. So you got shot as well. Damn religious fanatics.


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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #930 on: November 27, 2017, 12:23:57 pm »

Well, this is awkward. I could have sworn you just died there. Anyway welcome back! You look a bit pale, you sure you are well? And uh... what happened with you while we weren't looking?

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #931 on: November 27, 2017, 12:36:26 pm »

vote: Datswan
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #932 on: November 27, 2017, 01:11:37 pm »

Right.. Now you've all got my almost-inevitable mislynch out of your systems, can you get on with believing I'm town, please?

Galz, I believe you more now, since my item does not appear to be here in my zombie reanimated state after all.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #933 on: November 27, 2017, 01:13:32 pm »

Right.. Now you've all got my almost-inevitable mislynch out of your systems, can you get on with believing I'm town, please?

Galz, I believe you more now, since my item does not appear to be here in my zombie reanimated state after all.

I can confirm I received it.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #934 on: November 27, 2017, 01:15:36 pm »

Right.. Now you've all got my almost-inevitable mislynch out of your systems, can you get on with believing I'm town, please?

Galz, I believe you more now, since my item does not appear to be here in my zombie reanimated state after all.

I can confirm I received it.

It was like Christmas came early. It was everything I had ever wished for.
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #935 on: November 27, 2017, 01:24:43 pm »

Well now I have to reread, because nothing makes sense.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #936 on: November 27, 2017, 01:26:00 pm »

Well now I have to reread, because nothing makes sense.

Space flipping town threw your reads that much? Why were you so "convinced" they were scum?
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Quote from: Voltgloss
Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #937 on: November 27, 2017, 01:30:21 pm »

Well now I have to reread, because nothing makes sense.

Space flipping town threw your reads that much? Why were you so "convinced" they were scum?

No, the fact that Space was alive made no sense.  I hadn't read their role from the original game.  I even said that they hadn't made a real impression on me, and I was surprised that they were going to be lynched.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #938 on: November 27, 2017, 01:37:15 pm »

Well now I have to reread, because nothing makes sense.

Space flipping town threw your reads that much? Why were you so "convinced" they were scum?

No, the fact that Space was alive made no sense.  I hadn't read their role from the original game.  I even said that they hadn't made a real impression on me, and I was surprised that they were going to be lynched.

I don't get how rereading would make that make sense. It's not like it was an expected mechanic. What I'm getting at, is that while I get being confused, your "I need to reread [to understand]" doesn't feel genuine.

Although maybe you're referring to RMM3 and not this game?
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #939 on: November 27, 2017, 01:37:35 pm »

Right.. Now you've all got my almost-inevitable mislynch out of your systems, can you get on with believing I'm town, please?

Galz, I believe you more now, since my item does not appear to be here in my zombie reanimated state after all.
How long are you back for?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #940 on: November 27, 2017, 01:46:50 pm »

Well now I have to reread, because nothing makes sense.

Space flipping town threw your reads that much? Why were you so "convinced" they were scum?

No, the fact that Space was alive made no sense.  I hadn't read their role from the original game.  I even said that they hadn't made a real impression on me, and I was surprised that they were going to be lynched.

I don't get how rereading would make that make sense. It's not like it was an expected mechanic. What I'm getting at, is that while I get being confused, your "I need to reread [to understand]" doesn't feel genuine.

Although maybe you're referring to RMM3 and not this game?

Obviously I meant RMM3.  A person resurrecting with no flavor text, so the only indication that it happened was that they started posting again the day after they were lynched is not super normal.  I knew I needed to look at something to figure out what was going on.  I hadn't read Space's role on flip because I hadn't had time, so I also wanted to reread this thread to see if they had indicated somehow that this would happen.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #941 on: November 27, 2017, 02:26:23 pm »

We really need to resolve this frozen status people keep getting into. Any ideas?

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #942 on: November 27, 2017, 04:18:05 pm »

vote: Datswan

Continuation of yesterday's read on him?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #943 on: November 27, 2017, 04:29:55 pm »

vote: Datswan

Continuation of yesterday's read on him?

Did I read him as scum yesterday?

No.
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Derphammering is when quickhammers go derp.

Faust has also been incredibly stubborn this game. In other news, it's hot in the summer, and water falls from the sky when it rains.


Mafia Record:
TOWN Wins: M3, M5, M6, M11, M17, M28, M32, M105, M108, M114, M118, M120, M122, DM1, DoM1, OZ2, RM45, RM47, RM48, RM49, RM55
TOWN Losses: M4, M7, M8, M9, M13, M14, M18, M31, M110, M111, M113, M117, M125, RM3, RM4, RM54
SCUM Wins: M2, M19, M23, M100, DM3, RM1, RM2, RM48, RM50
SCUM Losses: M15 (SK), M102 (Tr), OZ1, RM55

Total Wins: 30
Total Losses: 20

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #944 on: November 27, 2017, 04:31:39 pm »

Cool,  I like Vote: Datswan
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #945 on: November 27, 2017, 04:46:50 pm »

vote: Datswan

Continuation of yesterday's read on him?

Did I read him as scum yesterday?

No.


Would like to know why then. Considering we have had no interaction since the events of yesterday.

I can also confirm to an incling of a doubt that Galz is town and possess the role he claimed.

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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #946 on: November 27, 2017, 06:31:14 pm »

Datswan,  are you saying you don't think Galz is the role he claimed?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #947 on: November 27, 2017, 08:13:29 pm »

Datswan,  are you saying you don't think Galz is the role he claimed?
No the opposite.
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #948 on: November 27, 2017, 08:26:03 pm »

Gotcha,  so you are confirming him as town?
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Re: RMM47: Rewind Mafia 2 (Day 3)
« Reply #949 on: November 27, 2017, 08:43:41 pm »

Gotcha,  so you are confirming him as town?

That is the "incling"...
Yes, he is town. We should proceed under the notion that he is Town. If there is some super ultra loophole, then OK. I can confirm like almost every piece of information he has divulged throughout this game (with the bid claim 1 aside) to be truthful. I don't believe Skum would ever come out with so many truths.

Just kind of a bold statement on my part to be fair, after how hard I was pushing him yesterday. I would strongly encourage we remove Galz from the table for the day.

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