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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2925 on: December 23, 2015, 09:14:48 am »

Are you saying Roleblocker can't be town?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2926 on: December 23, 2015, 09:25:37 am »

Yeah ok.

vote: iguana

It's not that this is completely incoherent, but his claim is altogether fishy. One-Shot Bulletproof seems too vanilla for this game, it's the only claimed roled that doesn't fit the "typicalPR with some modifier" pattern so far, it sounds like the kind of thing that you would come up with based on a fake flavor claim too.

I don't buy that town!iguana misunderstands what Haddock was talking about earlier.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2927 on: December 23, 2015, 09:29:05 am »

Yeah ok.

vote: iguana

It's not that this is completely incoherent, but his claim is altogether fishy. One-Shot Bulletproof seems too vanilla for this game, it's the only claimed roled that doesn't fit the "typicalPR with some modifier" pattern so far, it sounds like the kind of thing that you would come up with based on a fake flavor claim too.

I don't buy that town!iguana misunderstands what Haddock was talking about earlier.

But why does scum!Haddock misunderstand it?  What's different in that regard?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2928 on: December 23, 2015, 09:31:43 am »

You know there are setups with town rb?

No, I didn't know that.
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2929 on: December 23, 2015, 09:32:20 am »

Are you saying Roleblocker can't be town?

Yes, apparently I'm wrong?
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2930 on: December 23, 2015, 09:33:18 am »

scum!iguana you mean ?

iguana said something like "how did you know about the flavor" in response to iguana. Which seems to me like he was trying to appear as if he knew what Haddock was talking about, but didn't... wait, scum!iguana got webbed too, that doesn't work.

Hm. Ok, the whole webbed thing is whatever. Still not a huge fan of the claim, he's part of my lynch pool. Probably prefer the actual VTs at this point though.

vote: Hydrad

Still need to reread some people... going to be tough though, with the holidays.

PPE : Roleblockers are scum slightly more often than town, but overall it's alignment-neutral.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2931 on: December 23, 2015, 09:35:18 am »

Huh? WW I don't understand your last post.

Igu case seems weak here, what does igu gain by pretending not to understand what was going on? In any case, probably he did understand, he just didn't want to give too many details out.

PPE. Several.
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M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2932 on: December 23, 2015, 09:38:12 am »

scum!iguana you mean ?

iguana said something like "how did you know about the flavor" in response to iguana. Which seems to me like he was trying to appear as if he knew what Haddock was talking about, but didn't... wait, scum!iguana got webbed too, that doesn't work.

Hm. Ok, the whole webbed thing is whatever. Still not a huge fan of the claim, he's part of my lynch pool. Probably prefer the actual VTs at this point though.

vote: Hydrad

Still need to reread some people... going to be tough though, with the holidays.

PPE : Roleblockers are scum slightly more often than town, but overall it's alignment-neutral.

Yes, I meant Iguana.  Coming to the conclusion of Jailkeep is suspicious, especially for a new player.  If I was informed I was webbed, I would assume Roleblocked, not Jailkept.  If, say, scum team has a Roleblocker, then this conclusion makes more sense.  Though, he wouldn't have had the opportunity to discuss in the scum QT, since he was informed at the end of the night.

Haddock saying he's a loud Jailkeeper and then Iguana saying "oh, yeah, I knew I was Jailkept!" after the fact is weird.

e got the same thing from Night 1, right?  What did you think?  Also, did you claim?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2933 on: December 23, 2015, 09:38:40 am »

Huh? WW I don't understand your last post.

Igu case seems weak here, what does igu gain by pretending not to understand what was going on? In any case, probably he did understand, he just didn't want to give too many details out.

PPE. Several.

I mean to say scum!Iguana. 
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2934 on: December 23, 2015, 09:41:13 am »

Meh. I don't find the Jailkeeper thing particularly significant. And even then it gets back to your earlier point : why is scum!iguana more likely than town!iguana to do that ?

e claimed VT (Captain America). I don't think he confirmed the webbing yet.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #2935 on: December 23, 2015, 09:42:20 am »

Vote Count 3.4:

EgorK (2): 2.7, Haddock
faust (2): EgorK, Hydrad
Hydrad (1): Teproc

Not Voting (4): Ampharos, WW, faust, iguanaiguana

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 3 ends at 1:15 p.m. on December 29.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2936 on: December 23, 2015, 09:45:31 am »

Meh. I don't find the Jailkeeper thing particularly significant. And even then it gets back to your earlier point : why is scum!iguana more likely than town!iguana to do that ?

e claimed VT (Captain America). I don't think he confirmed the webbing yet.


Because maybe scum has a Roleblocker.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2937 on: December 23, 2015, 09:49:22 am »

I see. That's a good point. Still prefer Hydrad I think.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2938 on: December 23, 2015, 09:57:43 am »

People are talking about how everything I've been saying is a mess. I agree. All I can say is that the reason is not-alignment related, but due to the fact that I've been very rushed trying to make posts, then get back to either my family, or driving, or packing, or unpacking, etc.

I am sorry if town ends up with another mislynch today because I have been rushing through my posts : /
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Point iguana. Not that points really matter with a result, but still.
Igu is town or trying the hardest he ever has as scum.

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2939 on: December 23, 2015, 10:51:00 am »

e claimed VT (Captain America). I don't think he confirmed the webbing yet.

Captain America

VT

I was webbed N1
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2940 on: December 23, 2015, 10:55:29 am »

Meh. I don't find the Jailkeeper thing particularly significant. And even then it gets back to your earlier point : why is scum!iguana more likely than town!iguana to do that ?

e claimed VT (Captain America). I don't think he confirmed the webbing yet.


Because maybe scum has a Roleblocker.
Roleblocker, vanillaiser and redirection seems severely unlikely.  We have no evidence for rb at all.
Admittedly igu could be making up the vanillaising, and redirection isnt confirmed, but still more for those than for an rb.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2941 on: December 23, 2015, 02:40:36 pm »

I still like egor here. Annoyed at myself for backing off yesterday.

Amph, havent heard from you in a while.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2942 on: December 23, 2015, 03:14:55 pm »

Sorry, all caught up.  Been busy with the holidays and such. 

I'll admit that iguana is not as solid of town as I previously believed him to be.  But I don't think that's where we look today.  I still like the VT lynch.  EgorK didn't go through on our first try, but I'm not sure if that's because he is or isn't scum.  I did really think he was town earlier and am not sure if I'm ready to toss that in the trash just yet. 

All that said, we've got some time, and as I'm not sure who to lynch yet, I'm going to hold off voting right now.  I'll do a full think-through when I have a little more time.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2943 on: December 23, 2015, 03:22:21 pm »

Vote: Teproc
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2944 on: December 23, 2015, 03:22:38 pm »

Why cop e instead of me or Faust?
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2945 on: December 23, 2015, 03:26:10 pm »

I thoughg you were town and faust was relatively likely to be NKed. I also thought e was scum, and scum results are much, much better than town results.
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2946 on: December 23, 2015, 03:38:32 pm »

I thoughg you were town and faust was relatively likely to be NKed. I also thought e was scum, and scum results are much, much better than town results.
I actually think this is pretty weak. It hadn't occurred to me that Faust and ww were obvious cop targets.  Admittedly my jk targets haven't worked out great, but I don't see any convincing reason why I wouldn't have copped one of the two claimed investigators here.
Scum might well have known that claiming a town result on one of Faust and ww would have looked too suspicious here, encouraging teproc to claim the way he did.
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The best reason to lynch Haddock is the meltdown we get to witness on the wagon runup. I mean, we should totally wagon him every day just for the lulz.

M Town Wins-Losses (6-2, 75%): 71, 72, 76, 81, 83, 87 - 79, 82.  M Scum Wins-Losses (2-1, 67%): 80, 101 - 70.
RMM Town Wins-Losses (3-1, 75%): 42, 47, 49 - 31.  RMM Scum Wins-Losses (3-3, 50%): 33, 37, 43 - 29, 32, 35.
Modded: M75, M84, RMM38.     Mislynched (M-RMM): None - 42.     Correctly lynched (M-RMM): 101 - 33, 33, 35.       MVPs: RMM37, M87

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2947 on: December 23, 2015, 04:28:42 pm »

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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2948 on: December 23, 2015, 06:23:47 pm »

Sorry things are super busy. I totally believe teproc. No way he backs off me the way he does without hard evidence
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Re: M72: Marvel Heroes Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #2949 on: December 23, 2015, 06:25:20 pm »

He would not do that as scum. I was preparing myself to fight tooth and nail for survival worth teproc as my main "opponent."
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