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[O]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

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Eevee* going for Tracker at slot 13

That spot had candidate cop and tracker. Tracker is useful to town, whereas for scum it's only use is to appear townie. Candidate cop is a really weak role in my opinion.

Tracker is strong enough that town wants it in play. Draft position 13 is a great place to make sure the role is in play, but I don't think that role is a priority for town to jump at. I really like eevee going for it at 13. Working for town utility not just random town knowledge.

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever
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Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

[Galzria]

Eevee* going for Tracker at slot 13

That spot had candidate cop and tracker. Tracker is useful to town, whereas for scum it's only use is to appear townie. Candidate cop is a really weak role in my opinion.

Tracker is strong enough that town wants it in play. Draft position 13 is a great place to make sure the role is in play, but I don't think that role is a priority for town to jump at. I really like eevee going for it at 13. Working for town utility not just random town knowledge.

Candidate Cop is arguably just as valuable to SK as Mother.

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

[O]

Eevee* going for Tracker at slot 13

That spot had candidate cop and tracker. Tracker is useful to town, whereas for scum it's only use is to appear townie. Candidate cop is a really weak role in my opinion.

Tracker is strong enough that town wants it in play. Draft position 13 is a great place to make sure the role is in play, but I don't think that role is a priority for town to jump at. I really like eevee going for it at 13. Working for town utility not just random town knowledge.

Candidate Cop is arguably just as valuable to SK as Mother.

Given that mother has a 1/3 chance of immediately giving you all the candidates if you don't already, I think you're actually just straight wrong.

[Galzria]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

It's important that there be a case on both of you, yes. You're either both town or both scum.

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Eevee* going for Tracker at slot 13

That spot had candidate cop and tracker. Tracker is useful to town, whereas for scum it's only use is to appear townie. Candidate cop is a really weak role in my opinion.

Tracker is strong enough that town wants it in play. Draft position 13 is a great place to make sure the role is in play, but I don't think that role is a priority for town to jump at. I really like eevee going for it at 13. Working for town utility not just random town knowledge.

Candidate Cop is arguably just as valuable to SK as Mother.

So why didn't LaLight take it? It is a role valuable to only one person. Plus, it would be a delayed kill for SM. Investigate, then kill. Too slow. SM had other more pressing concerns

[Galzria]

Eevee* going for Tracker at slot 13

That spot had candidate cop and tracker. Tracker is useful to town, whereas for scum it's only use is to appear townie. Candidate cop is a really weak role in my opinion.

Tracker is strong enough that town wants it in play. Draft position 13 is a great place to make sure the role is in play, but I don't think that role is a priority for town to jump at. I really like eevee going for it at 13. Working for town utility not just random town knowledge.

Candidate Cop is arguably just as valuable to SK as Mother.

Given that mother has a 1/3 chance of immediately giving you all the candidates if you don't already, I think you're actually just straight wrong.

Ah, you're correct. I wasn't thinking Mother as Candidate.

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

Sorry, 4 scum. 3,4,5,8

Or something like that

[O]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

It's important that there be a case on both of you, yes. You're either both town or both scum.

And it's somewhat curious that you're the only one who even half-assedly attempted one. Curious on the other people, that is. I guess one of the guilty parties is Qvist tho, who is probsTown anyways.

[faust]

Looking at Teproc again. I'm trying to keep this on point.

1. The D1 start is only theory talk about the Poisoner claim. Regardless of whether that was a good thing or not, theory talk makes it easier for scum to get into the game.

2. iguana claims right on Teproc's say-so. There are a lot of reasons for scum to do this. The Poisoner is going to look scummy once people flip as poisoned because those people will not be scum. It isn't hard to imagine that scum thought they could not keep a Poisoner hidden. Then of course, orchestrating the claim like this is ideal. It is of course possible that iguana thought of this clever ploy without coordination, but it is unlikely - not because I don't trust iguana to have that idea, but because it's dangerous to drop this on your partners without discussing it first. If scum is prepared to claim, then sure they want to do it.

2. This is what is bothering me also: The only mention at all that Teproc makes of O during D1 through D3 is this:

faust is not going for any of the main wagons AND fighting with O ? Another player looking townie and making me want to lynch the people who are not.

There is no connection between the two of them, at least none I can see from Teproc's posts (I haven't reread O yet). Teproc is a candidate. Teproc is active. Town!Teproc would know he is a likely kill candidate. Masons would know that they need to make sure their partner is cleared when they die. Teproc did no such thing, which makes me strongly doubt his sincerity.

3. This is kind of a minor point, but he starts the LaLight wagon and then jumps off when it grows. This is the kind of behaviour I expect from scum who thinks LaLight will flip town.

4. His claim right away gives scum maximum influence on the claiming order but keeps as much as possible in the dark. They can put their remaining partner wherever in the claiming order suits them best.

Vote: Teproc

PPE: 11

[faust]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

If you can prove that you are town, I will reconsider my Teproc read.

[O]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

If you can prove that you are town, I will reconsider my Teproc read.

It's more like you're on a suicide train to get lynched regardless, and I'm just hoping you're scum at this point.

[faust]

Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

What? You just said you expect me to take iguana's bid, which implies I'm the Posioner. At least make up your mind as to what you're accusing me of.

[faust]

Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

Sorry, 4 scum. 3,4,5,8

Or something like that

Why those numbers? You do realize that 3 is actually a worse bid than 42 in term of which number comes first?

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

What? You just said you expect me to take iguana's bid, which implies I'm the Posioner. At least make up your mind as to what you're accusing me of.

Iguana takes poisoner bid, you take iguana bid, poisoner takes your bid.

It's not hard to coordinate N0, and provides multiple layers of protection on the poisoner

[faust]

There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

If you can prove that you are town, I will reconsider my Teproc read.

It's more like you're on a suicide train to get lynched regardless, and I'm just hoping you're scum at this point.

Ah right so you don't have to justify any reads at all anymore. Proving you are town isn't going very well so far.

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

Sorry, 4 scum. 3,4,5,8

Or something like that

Why those numbers? You do realize that 3 is actually a worse bid than 42 in term of which number comes first?

Yes. If 42 is unique.

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There is one more thing about Teproc that bothers me now. I will go back and put together all my problems with him.

Where's the O case?

If you can prove that you are town, I will reconsider my Teproc read.

It's more like you're on a suicide train to get lynched regardless, and I'm just hoping you're scum at this point.

Ah right so you don't have to justify any reads at all anymore. Proving you are town isn't going very well so far.

Not for you it isn't.

[faust]

Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

What? You just said you expect me to take iguana's bid, which implies I'm the Posioner. At least make up your mind as to what you're accusing me of.

Iguana takes poisoner bid, you take iguana bid, poisoner takes your bid.

It's not hard to coordinate N0, and provides multiple layers of protection on the poisoner

Doesn't that expose all 3 of the scum if the Poisoner dies?

[faust]

Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

Sorry, 4 scum. 3,4,5,8

Or something like that

Why those numbers? You do realize that 3 is actually a worse bid than 42 in term of which number comes first?

Yes. If 42 is unique.

No, also if both are unique.

[Galzria]

Why did nobody take Day Vig. This is the situation it's actually useful.

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Yeah, I said "goon" not "VT" - I meant the same thing. Vanilla whatever

Yay you. SO you think I'm the Poisoner? You think I put myself completely unnecessarily in a position that gives much more spotlight to me?

Maybe not the poisoner. Scums entire game revolves around the poisoner. I think scum bid 3,4,5,8,15. They wanted that poisoner role. I think you are the second line of defense behind iguana.

What? You just said you expect me to take iguana's bid, which implies I'm the Posioner. At least make up your mind as to what you're accusing me of.

Iguana takes poisoner bid, you take iguana bid, poisoner takes your bid.

It's not hard to coordinate N0, and provides multiple layers of protection on the poisoner

Doesn't that expose all 3 of the scum if the Poisoner dies?

Does it? Well, maybe that plan wouldn't work. Then yeah! You are the poisoner! Awesome

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Why did nobody take Day Vig. This is the situation it's actually useful.

There are still people who haven't claimed