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[Robz888]

But who did you bus drive?

I told the truth. I bus drove you and ash, and submitted a kill on you.

Well, that would produce this result, sure.

[Robz888]

Speccy qt please?

[Voltaire]

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/dxPq8qSH8qD3Z

[Voltaire]

Also it does look like I summarized incorrectly, looks like only yuma and I thought mcmc?

[Axxle]

No, not that he would go for conversion, that he would use Bus Driver to protect a seemingly town ashersky.

If ash had been town, he was only a mafia cop. Would make total sense to gain to attempt for mega-town cred with that.

sudgy was the only person who could have cop'd axxle.

Ash didn't actually claim cop, I was slightly worried he was a tracker, I wanted the super town cred, *and* if ash really was a mafia cop I wanted to give mafia more survivability since I wanted scumhunting focused there.

[Robz888]

No, not that he would go for conversion, that he would use Bus Driver to protect a seemingly town ashersky.

If ash had been town, he was only a mafia cop. Would make total sense to gain to attempt for mega-town cred with that.

sudgy was the only person who could have cop'd axxle.

Ash didn't actually claim cop, I was slightly worried he was a tracker, I wanted the super town cred, *and* if ash really was a mafia cop I wanted to give mafia more survivability since I wanted scumhunting focused there.

And then ash was scum and you were golden.

[Robz888]

I don't think it would have been right to lynch Axxle though. The evidence really did say otherwise. Even looking it now, the less plausible thing happened.

[Voltaire]

I have to say, this was easily my favorite game in a long, long, long time. I love this setup. I also like that it gave us a SK win, even though obviously I would have preferred to win.

[Voltaire]

Ignoring absolutely everything but playstyle, lynch Axxle. For meta, lynch Robz. For information known about the setup, lynch mcmc/axxle?

[Axxle]

Axxle just hit my top scumread. Hammered and then gave a scumread on joth for not unvoting (post-hammer)

The only thing I immediately regretted. I'm surprised more people didn't catch it.

[Axxle]

SK QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/fHD2pePmQanAi

[Robz888]

I'm reading the speccies, they are saying people pushing me (joth and Axxle at that point) are scummy. Since everyone is always pushing for me, I never pick up on that as a scumtell.

[Robz888]

Still reading speccy. Thank you for the love, yuma. It means a lot to me.

[Axxle]

I'm reading the speccies, they are saying people pushing me (joth and Axxle at that point) are scummy. Since everyone is always pushing for me, I never pick up on that as a scumtell.

Speccies had a big advantage as they knew that ash didn't shoot you, and thus you couldn't shoot yourself.

[ashersky]

Great win Axxle.

I'm sad I didn't get to play out my uber-gambit.

Mafia QT: http://quicktopic.com/50/H/MY2efRAxaXKf

[Robz888]

I'm reading the speccies, they are saying people pushing me (joth and Axxle at that point) are scummy. Since everyone is always pushing for me, I never pick up on that as a scumtell.

Speccies had a big advantage as they knew that ash didn't shoot you, and thus you couldn't shoot yourself.

My suspicion was mostly that ash DID shoot me and the SK shot theorel. Your bus driving, which did the opposite of a theoretical town Axxle's goal but in practiced worked out even better for a town Axxle, just always had me coming back to you as town.

[Voltaire]

I'm sad I didn't get to play out my uber-gambit.

I, too, wish this could have happened for longer.

[ashersky]

I'm sad I didn't get to play out my uber-gambit.

I, too, wish this could have happened for longer.

Robz at the end kept making it sound like I made up a result on XP.  I have the result in my PM.  I was really the Mafia Cop, so I wasn't fake claiming.  I didn't make it up, I caught him!

But then Axxle shot me.  I actually softclaimed mafia cop specifically so Axxle wouldn't shoot me.  No idea why he would want to protect mafia.

[ashersky]

Also, really, go sign up for M43 now.

[Axxle]

I'm sad I didn't get to play out my uber-gambit.

I, too, wish this could have happened for longer.

Robz at the end kept making it sound like I made up a result on XP.  I have the result in my PM.  I was really the Mafia Cop, so I wasn't fake claiming.  I didn't make it up, I caught him!

But then Axxle shot me.  I actually softclaimed mafia cop specifically so Axxle wouldn't shoot me.  No idea why he would want to protect mafia.

I felt like there were way too many obvtown players that I had to work with mafia to weed them out.

[Robz888]

Oh, another thing, which I never vocalized, which I thought pointed away from Axxle being SK... I had suspected Voltaire's "LOL, I should have claimed 1-shot BP" thing was a play, and he really WAS 1-shot BP. Or at least, I thought the SK had to suspect that that was going on, and would shoot sudgy instead.

Axxle is a big mafia vet who plays sometimes on this other forum, he is a very savvy player and doesn't overlook things. I thought he was most likely to pick up on this and do the same thing and not shoot Voltaire right away, whereas mcmc and Scott were more likely not to think of that.

So when the kill was Voltaire, not sudgy, Axxle got yet another "not SK" point. It seems he likes to play far riskier than I would have anticipated, however. Well, it paid off, big time.

[Axxle]

Also, really, go sign up for M43 now.

I want to play a regular setup

[Voltaire]

I am so very, very, very, very sad I failed to realize ideal play was to lie as town. Just the biggest regret ever. 

[ashersky]

Also, really, go sign up for M43 now.

I want to play a regular setup

I think asher9++ is coming up next in the normal queue.

But really, M43 is not crazy, like RMM or anything.  It's fun, not too serious.

[Axxle]

Oh, another thing, which I never vocalized, which I thought pointed away from Axxle being SK... I had suspected Voltaire's "LOL, I should have claimed 1-shot BP" thing was a play, and he really WAS 1-shot BP. Or at least, I thought the SK had to suspect that that was going on, and would shoot sudgy instead.

Axxle is a big mafia vet who plays sometimes on this other forum, he is a very savvy player and doesn't overlook things. I thought he was most likely to pick up on this and do the same thing and not shoot Voltaire right away, whereas mcmc and Scott were more likely not to think of that.

So when the kill was Voltaire, not sudgy, Axxle got yet another "not SK" point. It seems he likes to play far riskier than I would have anticipated, however. Well, it paid off, big time.

He confirmed me using my jailkeeper shot. He wasn't lying.