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[Swowl]

Question: is it Datswan and Galz who're good friends IRL? Could that incentivise one of them to want to take the other out, if they're on opposite factions? And if so, would killing Galz be a good move for scum to frame Swan a bit, under the assumption that one of us will point that out eventually?

I think it's likely DS would kill Galz, unlikely someone else would do it just to frame DS... I don't think that's something scum would have realized and discussed. I could be wrong on that I guess.

What about killing Galz to frame Faust?

WHy would they do it that way? I'd think mafia would do the opposite--kill faust Night 1 (a "duh" move for mafia) and leave Galz alone to continue to be suspected.

Because the day opened with PPS having this huge fancy readymade case on Faust based on the Galz flip and it looked like he made itnovernight

wait? why is this skummy? I do that all the time as town. I mean I have never like posted it, but if you are town at night what else do you have to do other than re-read based on the lynch flip? skum has a whole freeking channel to talk in? why is it more likely for a pre type to be skummy as opposed to it being a town player posting their insights from a night time re read?

Because his case wasn't based on the lynch flip only, it was also heavily based on the Night Kill.

That is an absolutely fair point.
However, it was several hours after flip that PPS posted the vote count post and then 45 mins after that he wrote up the "what it means post".

IDK I am not saying that I currently have a strong opinion on a PPS lynch, just more that I think this evidence is lazy.

Actually I would like this striken from the record. Not that it is not a fair point, if def is, but after re reading *more carefully* I need some time to consider its potential value to the situation.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

OMG! I have never stated that I have a result on Cuzz. I said that I targeted him with my PR during the night. What information, if any, I obtained I have give zero information about. Anything else was infered by others.

This is another reason that I said DatSwan doesn't always seem to read closely.

 My inference is completely justified. He said he targeted Cuzz and opened the day with voting for Cuzz. How would you decipher that information? You made a grammatical error that in turn had me miss that you included yourself on the claims list. I am not missing anything here, I stand right by it.

I mean, I get the inference,  but I think it was wrong. And I think there is plenty of evidence to see that inference was wrong by now if you read carefully.

So I get the posts, or at least some (in fairness, I cannot guarantee I am not in fact still missing something) that you would be referring to.
But it comes back to the core concept of the whole thing: If he has no result then he has no information to share. So, as a Town PR you just what... out yourself D2 before you have the ability to divulge any information about your actions?

OMG! I have never stated that I have a result on Cuzz. I said that I targeted him with my PR during the night. What information, if any, I obtained I have give zero information about. Anything else was infered by others.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

To answer the rest of the question as to why I claimed:

And to preemptively answer why I am claiming now.

One: I know my skillet and it isn't getting people off my wagon when it is rolling and I already have four votes

Second: derphammers and quick lynches are still a thing. I could be dead within 24 hours

[faust]

Mcmc decided to do some work and now people are “thinking about/wanting to vote him”? I didn’t see anything particularly scummy there.

He was the first to mention the word Traitor. That is a scum trait. Though someone said that schadd is unlikely to include a Traitor and I agree.

[faust]

I beliebe TWM is Town and I am afraid faust will orchestrate this lynch as well and we will lynch another town. Not changing my vote in forever

Yes I agree with this. The big thing I got from my re-read is that I have a scum read on faust. I think faust has more reason than most to shoot Galz, because Galz dying makes faust not dying look less incriminating ("Why didn't they kill faust? Oh, they had to kill Galz.")

This is godawful reasoning.

[faust]

OMG! I have never stated that I have a result on Cuzz. I said that I targeted him with my PR during the night. What information, if any, I obtained I have give zero information about. Anything else was infered by others.

Just like you inferred that iguana has a PR even though he never said that!

[Swowl]

OMG! I have never stated that I have a result on Cuzz. I said that I targeted him with my PR during the night. What information, if any, I obtained I have give zero information about. Anything else was infered by others.

Just like you inferred that iguana has a PR even though he never said that!

Shhhh i don’t think you were supposed to say that...

[Swowl]

Whatever, I am a fan of this from a Town perspective. We should know who we are willing to put up for lynch and not. Here is my list:

Happy to Lynch:
1) pingpongsam
2) Teproc
3) iguanaiguana
4) Cuzz

Will lynch if needed:
1) Robz
2) MCMC
3) TWM
4) Faust

Don't Want to Lynch:
1) LaLight
2) Space
3) Swan - Including myself to make sure not to confuse anyone.

[pingpongsam]

I’m down for lynching

Faust
Datswan
TWM

In that order. I see little to no value in any other lynches today.

[iguanaiguana]

Whatever, I am a fan of this from a Town perspective. We should know who we are willing to put up for lynch and not. Here is my list:

Happy to Lynch:
1) pingpongsam
2) Teproc
3) iguanaiguana
4) Cuzz

Will lynch if needed:
1) Robz
2) MCMC
3) TWM
4) Faust

Don't Want to Lynch:
1) LaLight
2) Space
3) Swan - Including myself to make sure not to confuse anyone.

What is the reasoning for your won't lynch people?

[pingpongsam]

I presumed Space was on there because he is conftown by the guy he wants to lynch. This makes pretty solid sense if you’re scum.

[pingpongsam]

Also, he will bus if he has to.

[The_Wine_Merchant]

PPS, go for datswan

[Robz888]

Vote: DatSwan

[schadd]

Vote count 2.4

DatSwan (2): The_Wine_Merchant, Robz888
faust (2): LaLight, pingpongsam
The_Wine_Merchant (2): SpaceAnemone, Cuzz
pingpongsam (1): faust
LaLight (1): iguanaiguana
Cuzz (1): DatSwan

not voting (2): mcmcsalot, Teproc

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. day 2 ends monday, february 26th at 22:00 forum time

mod notes

• 876
• teproc has about a half hour to post

[The_Wine_Merchant]

• teproc has about a half hour to post

And then what?

i make a post in mafia hub like "i need a replacement for teproc in m113,, thanks!"

[Swowl]

Whatever, I am a fan of this from a Town perspective. We should know who we are willing to put up for lynch and not. Here is my list:

Happy to Lynch:
1) pingpongsam
2) Teproc
3) iguanaiguana
4) Cuzz

Will lynch if needed:
1) Robz
2) MCMC
3) TWM
4) Faust

Don't Want to Lynch:
1) LaLight
2) Space
3) Swan - Including myself to make sure not to confuse anyone.

What is the reasoning for y'our won't lynch people?

Space because they seems like town space to me
Me because I am confirmed town
LL because of previous stated reasons regarding how they are playing.

[Swowl]

I presumed Space was on there because he is conftown by the guy he wants to lynch. This makes pretty solid sense if you’re scum.

well you're wrong. sorry.

[Robz888]

• teproc has about a half hour to post

And then what?

i make a post in mafia hub like "i need a replacement for teproc in m113,, thanks!"

I mean I'm sure he'll show up, he's a very reliable player. I wouldn't worry about replacement.

[Swowl]

Also, he will bus if he has to.

I presumed Space was on there because he is conftown by the guy he wants to lynch. This makes pretty solid sense if you’re scum.

Fine. I'll bus you then.

Vote: PPS

[Cuzz]

vote: datswan

[SpaceAnemone]

• teproc has about a half hour to post

And then what?

i make a post in mafia hub like "i need a replacement for teproc in m113,, thanks!"

I mean I'm sure he'll show up, he's a very reliable player. I wouldn't worry about replacement.

The issue isn't about whether or not he will turn up, it's the fact that he hasn't posted a single thing in more than four days.

That's four days of voting, interactions, wagon analysis and POE stuff that we're already missing.

[SpaceAnemone]

Advanced warning: the deadline tomorrow night is 3am my time. I will have to be asleep by midnight (7pm forum time) because of early-morning meetings on Tuesday :-(

[SpaceAnemone]

Vote: Robz

That's better than my TWM vote for now. I'm leaning towards giving the three claimed town PRs a pass for D2.

[SpaceAnemone]

I've also been considering whether some town guidance/planning on what players should be at the top of various roles' investigation wishlists. (Obviously it should be probabilistic, and adhered to at the PRs' discretion, but it might help us spread the investigations a bit so the results are maximally informative).