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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #875 on: July 19, 2018, 01:17:00 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

Vote: mcmc

Ugh I am so sick of people taking one part of my posts and pretending that is it. The only solace I am getting here is that I am sure you are scum. Take away the disguise part

Why would I ever be revealed as an ic instead of saying guess what don’t lynch my and tomorrow I will appear as an ic

The first thing I said when I got it was awesome this is an on demand next day ic power I can use.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #876 on: July 19, 2018, 01:18:09 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

Vote: mcmc

Ugh I am so sick of people taking one part of my posts and pretending that is it. The only solace I am getting here is that I am sure you are scum. Take away the disguise part

Why would I ever be revealed as an ic instead of saying guess what don’t lynch my and tomorrow I will appear as an ic

The first thing I said when I got it was awesome this is an on demand next day ic power I can use.

we're possibly in MyLo!
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #877 on: July 19, 2018, 01:18:40 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?

If he was town he would have used it already, nice try scum partner though.

It seems weird to try to lynch someone who can become an IC tonight. 
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #878 on: July 19, 2018, 01:19:51 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?

If he was town he would have used it already, nice try scum partner though.

It seems weird to try to lynch someone who can become an IC tonight.

and again, no, because we're possibly in MyLo
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #879 on: July 19, 2018, 01:20:01 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

Vote: mcmc

Ugh I am so sick of people taking one part of my posts and pretending that is it. The only solace I am getting here is that I am sure you are scum. Take away the disguise part

Why would I ever be revealed as an ic instead of saying guess what don’t lynch my and tomorrow I will appear as an ic

The first thing I said when I got it was awesome this is an on demand next day ic power I can use.

we're possibly in MyLo!

? how?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #880 on: July 19, 2018, 01:20:20 pm »

Jesus Christ I’m not in a disguise.

If we don’t lynch my I will tomorrow be mod confirmed as da samurai town aligned human with samurai jacks sword.

Excuse me for full claiming all aspects of the ability. Clearly I should have lied and or given only parts of my role like robz did so I could not get lynched.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #881 on: July 19, 2018, 01:21:09 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?

If he was town he would have used it already, nice try scum partner though.

It seems weird to try to lynch someone who can become an IC tonight.

and again, no, because we're possibly in MyLo

IF THE CLAIMED AND NOT BACKED UP LOVER WHO WE SHOULD HAVE LYNCHED YESTERDAY IS ACTUALLY A LOVER AND DIES
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #882 on: July 19, 2018, 01:21:41 pm »

Not taking advantage of the reveal essence to become a near-IC is very, very scummy. This whole "oh but what if I was disguised" business doesn't add up... I mean, that's something mafia would worry about. Like, a townie would get this, use it, be happy to be confirmed town, and not fret the whole disguise business.

Vote: mcmc

Ugh I am so sick of people taking one part of my posts and pretending that is it. The only solace I am getting here is that I am sure you are scum. Take away the disguise part

Why would I ever be revealed as an ic instead of saying guess what don’t lynch my and tomorrow I will appear as an ic

The first thing I said when I got it was awesome this is an on demand next day ic power I can use.

we're possibly in MyLo!

? how?

do you know how many scums are there? people can change alignments. Robz has a lover, that's two townie deaths in one night. if we lynch town, it's possibly one of [2 town 4 scum and EFHW, 3 town 3 scum and EFHW]
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #883 on: July 19, 2018, 01:24:38 pm »

I actually move that we should halt the massclaim and just lynch mcmc now.

Why wouldn't we keep mcmc alive and let him use his IC thing tonight?

If he was town he would have used it already, nice try scum partner though.

It seems weird to try to lynch someone who can become an IC tonight.

and again, no, because we're possibly in MyLo

IF THE CLAIMED AND NOT BACKED UP LOVER WHO WE SHOULD HAVE LYNCHED YESTERDAY IS ACTUALLY A LOVER AND DIES

OR WE HAVE FOUR SCUMS
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #884 on: July 19, 2018, 01:25:45 pm »

I will reiterate, it seems ridiculous to think that with 12 people starting the game that there was the possibility of 4 scum.  That means that with a successful kill last night, the game would have been over, which is crazy.

I would bet a lot of money that there isn't possibility for 4 scum without something like a guilty child like in the cancer game.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #885 on: July 19, 2018, 01:27:00 pm »

I will reiterate, it seems ridiculous to think that with 12 people starting the game that there was the possibility of 4 scum.  That means that with a successful kill last night, the game would have been over, which is crazy.

I would bet a lot of money that there isn't possibility for 4 scum without something like a guilty child like in the cancer game.

We know there's alignment change shenanigans, so 4 to start with is high but we could have gotten there.

Insane that mcmc would not have used this PR already. He's scum.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #886 on: July 19, 2018, 01:27:23 pm »

I will reiterate, it seems ridiculous to think that with 12 people starting the game that there was the possibility of 4 scum.  That means that with a successful kill last night, the game would have been over, which is crazy.

I would bet a lot of money that there isn't possibility for 4 scum without something like a guilty child like in the cancer game.

Or scum lovers. Or scum!restless spirit
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #887 on: July 19, 2018, 01:28:53 pm »

I will reiterate, it seems ridiculous to think that with 12 people starting the game that there was the possibility of 4 scum.  That means that with a successful kill last night, the game would have been over, which is crazy.

I would bet a lot of money that there isn't possibility for 4 scum without something like a guilty child like in the cancer game.

We know there's alignment change shenanigans, so 4 to start with is high but we could have gotten there.

Insane that mcmc would not have used this PR already. He's scum.

by the way no one claimed any changing alignments so possibly town converts to scum, don't you think
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Full! PMs go out in ~8-16 hours)
« Reply #888 on: July 19, 2018, 01:30:30 pm »

Day One Final Vote Count

Robz888 (1): McMcsalot
Hydrad (1): IDontPlayThisGame
Lalight (1): Haddock
EFHW (7): faust, Galzria, Hydrad, Robz888, EFHW, gkrieg13, Pingpongsam
faust (1): Lalight
gkrieg13 (1): DatSwan

With 12 alive, it took 7 to lynch

Day Two Final Vote Count

Robz888 (2): McMcsalot, gkrieg13
gkrieg13 (2): Hydrad, pingpongsam
faust (1): Lalight
pingpongsam (6): Galzria, Robz888, Haddock, faust, EFHW, IDontPlayThisGame

With 10 alive, it took 6 to lynch.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #889 on: July 19, 2018, 01:31:09 pm »

I will reiterate, it seems ridiculous to think that with 12 people starting the game that there was the possibility of 4 scum.  That means that with a successful kill last night, the game would have been over, which is crazy.

I would bet a lot of money that there isn't possibility for 4 scum without something like a guilty child like in the cancer game.

We know there's alignment change shenanigans, so 4 to start with is high but we could have gotten there.

Insane that mcmc would not have used this PR already. He's scum.


EXPLAIN WHY.  How does it not make more sense to save it to use after claiming
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #890 on: July 19, 2018, 01:59:54 pm »

Mcmc and gkrieg look like obvscum here.

Tend to think we should finish the claim now though. It is probably good to confirm the whole robz lover thing before we lynch mcmc?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #891 on: July 19, 2018, 02:02:30 pm »

Mcmc and gkrieg look like obvscum here.

Tend to think we should finish the claim now though. It is probably good to confirm the whole robz lover thing before we lynch mcmc?

I haven’t been on any of the town lynched thus far this game. I started with an item that can be given to samurai jack but because I didn’t use an ability that doesn’t even fully confirm I am IC I am scum???????
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #892 on: July 19, 2018, 02:03:03 pm »

Someone explain why I should have used the ability and let’s go from there.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #893 on: July 19, 2018, 02:05:47 pm »

Someone explain why I should have used the ability and let’s go from there.

Because you have no single reason not to become an IC and wait until claiming
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #894 on: July 19, 2018, 02:06:56 pm »

I personally don't see any reasons I would postpone the becoming of IC. IC is freaking useful as a role!
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #895 on: July 19, 2018, 02:07:46 pm »

I think the scummiest thing mcmc has done is not give the sword up to galzria.
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #896 on: July 19, 2018, 02:08:47 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.

2) I would assume idptg was aware of the caveat that if you are wearing a disguise that is what’s revealed. If I was idptg that would be the first thing I would say after the person used the ability to inform everyone it’s not guaranteed the player who used the ability is town. So the end result would just be that the mod reveals I have samurai jacks sword.

So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #897 on: July 19, 2018, 02:10:12 pm »

Someone explain why I should have used the ability and let’s go from there.

Because you have no single reason not to become an IC and wait until claiming

Wrong in a vacuum the longer you can hold on to being publicly made and ic the better. The earlier I am made ic the earlier I die, the less useful it is
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #898 on: July 19, 2018, 02:11:24 pm »

I think mcmc's reasoning is good here.  Delayed IC is better than D1 IC.  The only way this is a gamble at all for us is if it really is MYLO (which I reiterate that is can't be and be a balanced game).
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Re: RMM49: Samurai Jack Mafia (Day three!)
« Reply #899 on: July 19, 2018, 02:11:28 pm »

There are two separate things going on here.

1) if the power makes me an ic it’s absolutely smart of me to wait to use it until I have to every day I don’t use it is one day later I get to be an ic. There is a reason day 2 ic is better than regular ic. My thought day 4 ic is better than day 3 ic.

2) I would assume idptg was aware of the caveat that if you are wearing a disguise that is what’s revealed. If I was idptg that would be the first thing I would say after the person used the ability to inform everyone it’s not guaranteed the player who used the ability is town. So the end result would just be that the mod reveals I have samurai jacks sword.

So I reiterate who should I have used the ability?

What if you weren’t disguised then, but is disguised now and that’s why you postponed?
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