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Welcome to BM22 - Random Mafia!
This game will have at least 9 players, and will start when I feel like it. When the game starts, I will go to the mafiascum wiki and go to random pages to get a role for each player. That isn't so easy, see this post (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13486.msg504550#msg504550) for how I'll select the roles. Other than this, the game will be completely normal.
Rules are here (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=9211.0). Who care about changes? This is BM!
This game will have 8 day deadlines and 48 hour night deadlines.
If a majority of votes hasn't been reached by deadline, a no lynch happens.
Player list:
1. Awaclus
2. 2.71828.....
3. Ghacob
4. Hydrad
5. mail-mi
6. scott_pilgrim
7. hockeysemlan
8. XerxesPraelor
9. faust
10. Witherweaver
11. silverspawn
12. MarioManiac4
13. chairs
14. gkrieg13
11. skip wooznum
16. ashersky
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/in
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/tag for now, pretty IRL busy at the moment.
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Randomly generated RMM game?
yes please.
Also, does random role include scum? Or will scum have a scum role?
Plus, I can't say no to Bastard. I am on a winning streak! 2 in a row
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that's a /in
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Randomly generated RMM game?
yes please.
Also, does random role include scum? Or will scum have a scum role?
Plus, I can't say no to Bastard. I am on a winning streak! 2 in a row
Everybody will get the first role they get. The only choice I'll make at all is what factions are what. Under the rare circumstance that nobody at all is scum, I'll reroll the whole setup.
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Random mafiascum wiki pages take too long. Instead I'll just use random.org and get a random one from this page (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles), which hopefully has them all. If anybody has any better ideas, say them.
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/in as I've won all my BM games ever
I might suggest also adding some of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers) as well
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/in
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/in
With my luck, my random page will be "Vanilla townie."
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/in for Bastard!
Will our flavor names be randomly chosen from previous games? Or random wikipedia pages?
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/in for Bastard!
Will our flavor names be randomly chosen from previous games? Or random wikipedia pages?
I like this idea. Then you could add posting restrictions based on flavor....Ok, maybe not
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/In
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/in
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/in
I think all posts in this game should be created like this (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13415.msg502067#msg502067).
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/in if there's room.
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/in for Bastard!
Will our flavor names be randomly chosen from previous games? Or random wikipedia pages?
I guess I'll make flavor names random wikipedia pages.
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Okay, so here's what I do: Choose a random one of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles) pages for your role. I'll make you have a 50% chance of having a role modifier. If you do, it will be randomly selected from these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers). If you got one, I'll do a 50% chance again, and give you more role modifiers, until you don't get one. I'll go to a random wikipedia page for your flavor name.
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Okay, so here's what I do: Choose a random one of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles) pages for your role. I'll make you have a 50% chance of having a role modifier. If you do, it will be randomly selected from these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers). If you got one, I'll do a 50% chance again, and give you more role modifiers, until you don't get one. I'll go to a random wikipedia page for your flavor name.
If I were you, I'd exclude a bunch of those roles, because a lot of them are inconsequential or make no sense, like cultafia
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Okay, so here's what I do: Choose a random one of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles) pages for your role. I'll make you have a 50% chance of having a role modifier. If you do, it will be randomly selected from these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers). If you got one, I'll do a 50% chance again, and give you more role modifiers, until you don't get one. I'll go to a random wikipedia page for your flavor name.
If I were you, I'd exclude a bunch of those roles, because a lot of them are inconsequential or make no sense, like cultafia
If it's not a role, I'll just do another random number.
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Also, if you get a role that has a bunch of mini-roles (JOAT, for example), those will be selected randomly as well.
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Also, if you get a role that has a bunch of mini-roles (JOAT, for example), those will be selected randomly as well.
Now I really want to get a JOAT where one of my abilities is JOAT.
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There is an extremely small chance of getting recursive JOATs, leaving even the potential for someone to get all available roles.
Jack of Jack of Jack of Jack of Jack of Jack of Jack of Jack of All
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/in
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okay, I'll actually play after all. /in
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/in if I am allowed :)
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/in
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question - if you say 'other than that, the game will be normal', does this mean you expect us to take the game as serious as a normal game?
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I don't think I'll play a game that seriously if it may feature Jesters and Cult Leaders.
One other question thought: Are all modifiers known to the player? E.g., if my role is "False Weak Bodyguard", am I informed of all modifiers? Also, would the "False" modifier also extend to the Weakness? And lastly, will roles that make no sense (e.g. "False Innocent Child", "Suicidal Survivor") be excluded?
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question - if you say 'other than that, the game will be normal', does this mean you expect us to take the game as serious as a normal game?
As this is BM, you may take it as seriously as you want. I think it would be fun if people played it seriously, but I'm certain the game will be broken. What I mean is that there won't be any tricks other than random roles.
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One other question thought: Are all modifiers known to the player? E.g., if my role is "False Weak Bodyguard", am I informed of all modifiers? Also, would the "False" modifier also extend to the Weakness? And lastly, will roles that make no sense (e.g. "False Innocent Child", "Suicidal Survivor") be excluded?
If I get any weird role modifier/role combinations, I'll just figure out how I want to use it. I would probably make a "False Weak" role do nothing, and a False Innocent Child will not be announced, as they aren't an actual Innocent Child.
If you are a Suicidal Survivor, I feel bad for you.
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question - if you say 'other than that, the game will be normal', does this mean you expect us to take the game as serious as a normal game?
As this is BM, you may take it as seriously as you want. I think it would be fun if people played it seriously, but I'm certain the game will be broken. What I mean is that there won't be any tricks other than random roles.
I also think it could be fun to play broken setups seriously. that was actually the same issue I had with the pay for roles idea; I thought it'd be fun in the most broken way where you can try to buy absolutely everything, but it'd be less fun if people don't play seriously
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I'm going on a week long vacation next week with no internet access. So if you could start after that that's great, if not just please don't have a night while I'm gone.
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/tag
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Also, great idea mail-mi.
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I haven't played before and am signed up for mistborn mafia. I would love to /in here too if you'll have me.
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Also, great idea mail-mi.
...?
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Taking a week long vacation is obviously a great idea.
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I haven't played before and am signed up for mistborn mafia. I would love to /in here too if you'll have me.
You're in!
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Also, great idea mail-mi.
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Making a random RMM like you are doing. I like it.
It's like cayvie's Arcana, but with less work and no balance promised.
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Also, great idea mail-mi.
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Making a random RMM like you are doing. I like it.
It's like cayvie's Arcana, but with less work and no balance promised.
...it's sudgy's game.
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What is this madness?? I /in'ed quite a while ago. Id like my rightful place in the 11th spot, if you please.
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...it's sudgy's game.
Man, two years in and I still get you two confused.
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What is this madness?? I /in'ed quite a while ago. Id like my rightful place in the 11th spot, if you please.
Sorry, I don't know how I missed that. Fixed.
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mail-mi, we'll start when you come back. Post here when you're ready.
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What is this madness?? I /in'ed quite a while ago. Id like my rightful place in the 11th spot, if you please.
Sorry, I don't know how I missed that. Fixed.
yes this is exactly how I wanted it. Thank you
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Do you guys want me to add extra mafia to try to make it somewhat balanced (in addition to your normal role of course), or just keep it having almost no mafia?
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Do you guys want me to add extra mafia to try to make it somewhat balanced (in addition to your normal role of course), or just keep it having almost no mafia?
try to make it somewhat balanced
maybe slightly town favored because lynches are going to be less accurate in a bastard game.
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I think balance would be nice
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Alternatively, make the "almost no mafia" a lot stronger, give'em extra powers :))
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however many players, just do a normal amount of non-town aligned. Because of the BM, that doesn't all have to be mafia in my opinion. SK, Jester, survivor....all these roles and more "not-town aligned" roles that aren't really mafia could appear.
That is my opinion at least. for what it counts
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Alternatively, make the "almost no mafia" a lot stronger, give'em extra powers :))
You should have signed up for Guilds Mafia.
I'm tempted to sign up, but I don't have a lot of time. If I played, I'd be super lurky. Is that ok?
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Alternatively, make the "almost no mafia" a lot stronger, give'em extra powers :))
You should have signed up for Guilds Mafia.
I'm tempted to sign up, but I don't have a lot of time. If I played, I'd be super lurky. Is that ok?
It's up to you.
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/in.
Won't be serious, or useful. Just making that clear.
If you make me a cop or something, boo.
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If you make me a cop or something, boo.
yeah. I call jester
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Does anybody know when this will start? :)
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Does anybody know when this will start? :)
Already did. You lost.
(Also: welcome!)
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Alternatively, make the "almost no mafia" a lot stronger, give'em extra powers :))
You should have signed up for Guilds Mafia.
I'm tempted to sign up, but I don't have a lot of time. If I played, I'd be super lurky. Is that ok?
It's up to you.
Eh, I'll just watch.
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Won't be serious, or useful. Just making that clear.
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Won't be serious, or useful. Just making that clear.
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So, I kind of forgot that I'm leaving until Wednesday... I'll be too busy to do anything until Monday. I should be able to do this then.
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Dayvig: sudgy
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Kill: sudgy
Good luck rest of mafia!!!
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I'm hoping mail-mi posting here means he's ready... I'm closing signups. I'll finalize the last few things about the setup and actually write up the PMs. Then I'll send them.
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mail-mi, everything's ready. I just want to make sure you are.
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So, I guess mail-mi quoting somebody doesn't mean he's ready. Well, oh well.
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Nope. I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow, no access whatsoever until saturday.
(this post also doesn't mean I'm ready.)
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Nope. I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow, no access whatsoever until saturday.
(this post also doesn't mean I'm ready.)
If we start now, we can lynch you before you leave for vacation.
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Nope. I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow, no access whatsoever until saturday.
(this post also doesn't mean I'm ready.)
Oh. I interpreted your v/la announcement as saying you were gone last week. Oh well, I guess we'll start on Saturday.
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Alllright it's Saturday, and therefor time to start the game!
I hereby suggest we do a full massclaim, and I'll start
I am the No Alignment No Role, but I'm really ready to help out town, you should trust me
Suggested order for the next few are:
mail mi, e, ashersky
after that, I don't think it matters too much as those are my top scum reads at the moment
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Ghacob has been modkilled for posting before the game started. He was EXCEPTION:FlavorNotAssignedException the EXCEPTION:RoleNotAssignedException.
Vote Count -1.0
Not Voting (14): Awaclus, 2.71828....., Hydrad, mail-mi, scott_pilgrim, hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, faust, Witherweaver, Exception:ModInGameException, MarioManiac4, chairs, gkrieg13, skip wooznum, ashersky
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Sorry guys, we're waiting for mail-mi. I told him to post when he's ready. Get mad at him, not me.
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Nope. I'm leaving for my vacation tomorrow, no access whatsoever until saturday.
(this post also doesn't mean I'm ready.)
Oh. I interpreted your v/la announcement as saying you were gone last week. Oh well, I guess we'll start on Saturday.
I interpreted this as "we will wait no longer"
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/31021317.jpg)
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BACK!
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Can we get mad at sudgy now?
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yes
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yes
Nope.
Thread locked, PMs are a-comin'
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All PMs are sent out. Please confirm receipt of your role by PM. Day 1 will start once all players have confirmed and 24 hours have passed. Mafia, you may confirm by posting in your QT.
Just a note: I will answer any "what would you do if this role targeted this role" or "what would happen if this role had this role modifier" and such that you want to ask me.
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Hehe, I was waiting for all of the confirmations, thinking some were missing, but they were all there already...
So, DAY 1 START
Vote Count 1.1
Not Voting (16): Awaclus, 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, mail-mi, scott_pilgrim, hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, faust, Witherweaver, silverspawn, MarioManiac4, chairs, gkrieg13, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM (I don't want it going too late).
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First!
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My role is such that if scum knew what it was, they would not want to kill me.
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My role is such that if scum knew what it was, they would not want to kill me.
Vote: scott
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Can't be a very good role then.
Unlike mine. Mine is cool. It let me trash five Coppers when I gained it, and now I can use it to duplicate my treasure.
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Also, change the topic name. It keeps people from posting in here.
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My role is such that I find it hard to believe tha sudgy didn't tweak the randomness a little.
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Bastard Mod!
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Oh hey! It has started!
Uh yeah, I'm town again, what are the odds really?
vote: scott
I heard sheeping Faust the first day is obligatory.
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Vote: faust
I demand a re PR as I want a cooler role.
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Vote: faust
I demand a re PR as I want a cooler role.
Vote: Hydrad for not having a cool role. Also OMGUS.
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
uh me too...
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I claim IC!
PPE:2
PPE:1
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
uh me too...
Vote: Hydrad
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
uh me too...
Vote: Hydrad
silly faust your vote was already on me!
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I claim IC!
PPE:2
PPE:1
well if there isn't a counter claim I feel like he has to be telling the truth.
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
uh me too...
Vote: Hydrad
silly faust your vote was already on me!
Vote: Hydrad
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If there is a Vanillaiser out there, it would be a good idea to target me. Just sayin'.
uh me too...
Vote: Hydrad
silly faust your vote was already on me!
Vote: Hydrad
Faust is a tripple-voter, ehmergewd!
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:D :)
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:D :)
:o
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can you only post with images?
That would be an interesting PR...
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I super mod power changed the title.
Also, I think craziest combo of role stuff wins.
vote: voltaire
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Also, I think craziest combo of role stuff wins.
I have a decent shot then.
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Also, I think craziest combo of role stuff wins.
I have a decent shot then.
Vigilante or scum?
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I feel like this game is on the line between RMM and BM.
vote: Hydrad
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Is ghacob playing? vote: ghake for being a cultist last game, whether you're playing now or not.
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I feel like this game is on the line between RMM and BM.
vote: Hydrad
Not even close. But good choice for your vote, man.
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What have Hydrad done to deserve so much hate? :'(
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What have Hydrad done to deserve so much hate? :'(
AtE!
Vote: hockeysemlan
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What have Hydrad done to deserve so much hate? :'(
AtE!
Vote: hockeysemlan
I haven't ate anything!
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What have Hydrad done to deserve so much hate? :'(
Stop defending your partner!
vote: hockeysemlan
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vote: Scott pilgrim
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vote: ashersky obv scum.
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Also, who is on the biggest wagon? Let's lynch them.
For now vote : xp
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Is one of your JoaT abilities another JoaT?
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Is one of your JoaT abilities another JoaT?
Unfortunately not. However, if you lynch me, we skip the next day phase!
Double night phases!
So don't lynch me. And don't worry, I am town
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Is one of your JoaT abilities another JoaT?
Unfortunately not. However, if you lynch me, we skip the next day phase!
Double night phases!
So don't lynch me. And don't worry, I am town
Vote: e
This should happen, guys!
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Obv!scum move by faust.
vote: faust
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Is one of your JoaT abilities another JoaT?
Unfortunately not. However, if you lynch me, we skip the next day phase!
Double night phases!
So don't lynch me. And don't worry, I am town
Vote: e
This should happen, guys!
I don't believe in WIFOM
Vote: Faust
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Obv!scum move by faust.
vote: faust
Claiming unlynchable JOAT is the obv!scum move.
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Obv!scum move by faust.
vote: faust
Claiming unlynchable JOAT is the obv!scum move.
So we're just going with blatant lie and start the game with two nights? Go ahead, but I don't dare.
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vote: hockey for trying too hard, only scum would actually focus on getting town points
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vote: hockey for trying too hard, only scum would actually focus on getting town points
Agreed
vote: hockey
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vote: hockey for trying too hard, only scum would actually focus on getting town points
I always focus on getting town points.
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
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At least, I think it was Faust. I may have mixed them up, because their avatars are too similar
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
They're not at all similar. Scott's avatar is Possession.
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
They're not at all similar. Scott's avatar is Possession.
I don't get it
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
??? How are scott's and my avatar similar?
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I have a plan.
Vote: Hydrad
(voting Hydrad is not part of the plan)
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On another note, people should not be voting for me. There's a very good reason for not voting me (and, particularly, for not lynching me) that I'm keeping secret for now.
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can you only post with images?
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(https://fbcdn-profile-a.akamaihd.net/hprofile-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-1/p50x50/11164750_851240014965983_7625809070308150532_n.png?oh=ad0bd8cd5174abb60a2dd6fe7a754de9&oe=560DD9AF&__gda__=1448211353_068d3de588a7a25a1c269cd126057d52) : vote: Awaclus
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Hi!
I don't really know the meta on this site, but I do know how to play Mafia.
VOTE: CHAIRS
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Also, lynching me will be very bad news for town, so please don't. I will not give scum any more clues, but seeing as (I think) this is a game with unusual roles, I thought I'd be able to put this out there.
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Also, lynching me will be very bad news for town, so please don't. I will not give scum any more clues, but seeing as (I think) this is a game with unusual roles, I thought I'd be able to put this out there.
Are you... trying to take this game seriously?!
vote: mariomaniac4 I will not tolerate seriousness.
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Also, lynching me will be very bad news for town, so please don't. I will not give scum any more clues, but seeing as (I think) this is a game with unusual roles, I thought I'd be able to put this out there.
Why does everyone do that?
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Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
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Also, lynching me will be very bad news for town, so please don't. I will not give scum any more clues, but seeing as (I think) this is a game with unusual roles, I thought I'd be able to put this out there.
Are you... trying to take this game seriously?!
vote: mariomaniac4 I will not tolerate seriousness.
As this is BM, you may take it as seriously as you want. I think it would be fun if people played it seriously, but I'm certain the game will be broken. What I mean is that there won't be any tricks other than random roles.
I also think it could be fun to play broken setups seriously. that was actually the same issue I had with the pay for roles idea; I thought it'd be fun in the most broken way where you can try to buy absolutely everything, but it'd be less fun if people don't play seriously
vote: mail-mi
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I am going to take this whole game seriously now.
I predict mail-me is a Werewolf Supersaint.
But Chairs is probably a Mafia Vigilante so he needs to die first.
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Oh, let me get in on this. When I'm lynched, the next day is skipped and I can kill a person of my choice.
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
??? How are scott's and my avatar similar?
color scheme-wise. But ill probably get used to it. But if we lunch one of you I wont have to
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Faust's and scott's avatars are too similar, we need to lynch one. vote: scott cuz Faust made that mint/mine joke earlier.
??? How are scott's and my avatar similar?
color scheme-wise. But ill probably get used to it. But if we lunch one of you I wont have to
or if we lynch one of you lol
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So is that like being king in a kingmaker game?
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Also, lynching me will be very bad news for town, so please don't. I will not give scum any more clues, but seeing as (I think) this is a game with unusual roles, I thought I'd be able to put this out there.
Are you... trying to take this game seriously?!
vote: mariomaniac4 I will not tolerate seriousness.
As this is BM, you may take it as seriously as you want. I think it would be fun if people played it seriously, but I'm certain the game will be broken. What I mean is that there won't be any tricks other than random roles.
I also think it could be fun to play broken setups seriously. that was actually the same issue I had with the pay for roles idea; I thought it'd be fun in the most broken way where you can try to buy absolutely everything, but it'd be less fun if people don't play seriously
vote: mail-mi
Should we designate posts with letters/words/people, so that you can quote them in order to form sort of sentences?
And that's a good point actually
PPE: stop it darn mario
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OK
I am a jester lyncher 312393-shot weak watcher ;D
Seriously though scum is chairs
mail-mi is a partner
come back to this when the game is over!
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I agree.
vote: mail-mi
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Oh right, I almost forgot that silverspawn is scum!
Vote: silverspawn
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Anwankinus is another partner
(sorry for not looking up your name.)
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Oh, let me get in on this. When I'm lynched, the next day is skipped and I can kill a person of my choice.
I'm a super-Jester. When I'm lynched, the game ends immediately, I win, and everyone else loses.
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I CC
LYNCH SCOTT
(I really should play games on this site more!)
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(I really should play games on this site more!)
vote: Awaclus
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Oh right, I almost forgot that silverspawn is scum!
Vote: silverspawn
that's poo. vote: awaclus
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(I really should play games on this site more!)
vote: Awaclus
How does this quote combine with your (second) vote on awa?
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Rolled 1d1000 : 68, total 68
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(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d1000 : 6789, total 6789
I don't know what the numbers mean but i wanted them to be more impressive
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(I really should play games on this site more!)
vote: Awaclus
How does this quote combine with your (second) vote on awa?
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vote: Awaclus
Wagon!!!
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vote: merry
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(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d1000 : 68, total 68
um...... liopoil would you like to play?
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Non-players, please do not post in the game thread. This game is still normal other than the fact that it's labeled BM.
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Non-players, please do not post in the game thread. This game is still normal other than the fact that it's labeled BM.
are you saying there are no roles in the game that wouldn't be in a normal game? Who claimed super jester? Let's lynch him.
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vote: skip
clam down
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vote: liopoil
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vote: skip
clam down
I'll clam in whatever direction I please
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Non-players, please do not post in the game thread. This game is still normal other than the fact that it's labeled BM.
are you saying there are no roles in the game that wouldn't be in a normal game? Who claimed super jester? Let's lynch him.
There could be non-normal roles, I'm just saying that this game still follows the rules.
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Non-players, please do not post in the game thread. This game is still normal other than the fact that it's labeled BM.
are you saying there are no roles in the game that wouldn't be in a normal game? Who claimed super jester? Let's lynch him.
There could be non-normal roles, I'm just saying that this game still follows the rules.
Mod confirmation that I am indeed a super jester.
vote: liopoil There's nothing scummier than not playing.
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Lots of people pretending to have post restrictions, huh.
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I need a question answered in the QT.
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vote: faust
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vote: faust
Yeah, sure...
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vote: Ashersky
for tricking me to believe voltaire was in this game..
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vote: Ashersky
for tricking me to believe voltaire was in this game..
that's a terrible reason to vote somebody. What do you think this is, bastard or something?!
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Okay, so here's what I do: Choose a random one of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles) pages for your role. I'll make you have a 50% chance of having a role modifier. If you do, it will be randomly selected from these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers). If you got one, I'll do a 50% chance again, and give you more role modifiers, until you don't get one. I'll go to a random wikipedia page for your flavor name.
I didn't get a flavor name! I demand my money back!
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vote: Ashersky
for tricking me to believe voltaire was in this game..
that's a terrible reason to vote somebody. What do you think this is, bastard or something?!
How are we ever going to come out of RVS ^_^
Well, I didn't want to have my vote on faust, not because of his threat, but I don't see his claim as very scummy at least.
So I have e and faust out of my lynch-pool for today, that's at least something.
Anyone up for a readslist yet?
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I also lack a flavor name :-\
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So I thought I'd recreate what happened in the setup construction.
I have distributed the roles accordung to the method laid out by sudgy. It lead to this result:
Awaclus - The Oracle
e - Day Hidden Hammerer
Ghacob - Loyal Hero
Hydrad - Triggered Lynchproof Townie
mail-mi - 48% Vengeful Townie
scott - Diginova
hockey - Captain
Xerxes - Reviver
faust - REDACTED
WW - Compulsive Backup Cop
silver - Doublevoter
Mario - Judas
chairs - Friendly Neighbor
gkrieg - Redirector
skip - Innocent Child
ashersky - Deathproof Self-aware Even-Night Post Restriction Lightning Rod
I won't tell you my role; it suffices to say that this test yielded the exact same role I have, which proves that it is the result we have. Judas is an anti-town role. Therefore
Vote: Mario
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Counterclaim! I'm not the Oracle, I'm the IC!
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Counterclaim! I'm not the Oracle, I'm the IC!
I must have mixed you and skip.
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I agree.
vote: mario
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
I'm the same way. Maybe that's because I got a semi-normal role though...
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Okay, so here's what I do: Choose a random one of these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Roles) pages for your role. I'll make you have a 50% chance of having a role modifier. If you do, it will be randomly selected from these (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Category:Role_Modifiers). If you got one, I'll do a 50% chance again, and give you more role modifiers, until you don't get one. I'll go to a random wikipedia page for your flavor name.
I didn't get a flavor name! I demand my money back!
Sorry, I forgot about flavor names. You can choose them yourself.
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
I'm the same way. Maybe that's because I got a semi-normal role though...
vote: geekrig
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(http://t14.deviantart.net/TR7u0shiqJpeznlQ8QskSJSJaCU=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre10/9048/th/pre/i/2015/007/e/e/confused_rainbow_dash_by_dmkruiz-d8d08vf.png)
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
Well, you playing the game seriously means unexplained votes and snarky comments. I'm not sure how distinguishable it is from you not playing seriously :P
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
Well, you playing the game seriously means unexplained votes and snarky comments. I'm not sure how distinguishable it is from you not playing seriously :P
Only when I'm town.
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For the record, I am trying to play this game seriously. I just funpost more than in regular games.
Well, you playing the game seriously means unexplained votes and snarky comments. I'm not sure how distinguishable it is from you not playing seriously :P
Only when I'm town.
Yes. Well, you're the IC, aren't you?
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Vote Count 1.2
Not Voting (3): Witherweaver, chairs, ashersky
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
faust (3): Hydrad, 2.71828....., scott_pilgrim
mail-mi (1): XerxesPraelor
chairs (1): MarioManiac4
silverspawn (1): Awaclus
Awaclus (2): silverspawn, gkrieg13
ashersky (1): hockeysemlan
MarioManiac4 (2): faust, Ghacob
gkrieg13 (1): mail-mi
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM.
Important note: I'm going to be gone for a few days, and I think liopoil will hold down the fort for a few days. Please don't lynch people while I'm gone, but if you do, the thread will be locked and the game will be suspended until I get back, unless liopoil gets more information and can do everything. Liopoil is also going to be writing flavor.
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(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d6 : 2, total 2
Randomizing flavor names...
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Rolled 15d14 : 2, 4, 8, 9, 6, 3, 3, 1, 3, 5, 2, 5, 11, 10, 2, total 74
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I hope I get a good one!
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Bad random mod is bad, did not create enough entropy
Rolled 16d15 : 13, 10, 12, 3, 4, 1, 9, 12, 13, 1, 4, 9, 13, 11, 4, 13, total 132
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I am Herman Trunk (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herman_Trunk).
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I am Ashraf W. Tabani (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ashraf_W._Tabani)
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If my role was Judas, why would you lunch me?
You wouldn't, would you?
You probably shouldn't lynch me either.
My role is important for town.
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vote: Mario
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VOTE: gkrieg13
;D
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VOTE: gkrieg13
;D
Hoorayt!
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I wish I could scumhunt, but nobody's playing alignment indicative-ly.
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I wish I could scumhunt, but nobody's playing alignment indicative-ly.
Why don't you start playing alignment indicative-ly then?
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Okay, so just FYI, at some point during the game I will be verified Town by the moderator; I am likely to be tree stumped afterwards (also due to my role) so I'll effectively be dead after even though I'll still be able to post (since I won't count towards living Town members). As such, please feel free to go ahead and treat me as an IC starting now.
On that note, let's lynch mail-mi. vote: mail-mi.
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vote: mail-mi
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On that note, let's lynch mail-mi. vote: mail-mi.
I am against this motion, though I can't say why.
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On that note, let's lynch mail-mi. vote: mail-mi.
I am against this motion, though I can't say why.
JUST WHAT SCUM WOULD SAY
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vote: gkrieg13
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Everyone should have recieved a flavor name. If you did not recieve a message in the format:
Hello --playername--. Your randomly determined flavor name is:
--flavorname-- --comment from me about flavor name--
Then please PM me. Flavor names are definitely completely random, no doubt about it at all, 100%. As such, they are also independent of alignment.
If you are unsatisfied with your flavor name I can arrange for you to get a flavor name that is even MORE random! However, you will be stuck with what I give you.
Flavor names are a distraction from the game. If you do not wish to be distracted by such random things, do not be distracted by them.
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Hi. I am 4
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Hi. I am 4
No, you are 2.71828.....
Vote: E lynch all liars.
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I'm 4 also! E we are a team now. All other numbers must die
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Everyone should have recieved a flavor name. If you did not recieve a message in the format:
As such, they are also independent of alignment.
Allright we're gonna need flavor name claims from everyone right now
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I'm soil music so obv!town
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Hi.
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Hi.
vote: ashersky
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Boo.
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Boo.
Oh fine.
vote: e
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Boo.
Oh fine.
vote: e
Vote: mail-mi
how can you vote my teammate. I'm claiming masons now with e.
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I'm 5555.
That is.. something..
vote: mail-mi
He didn't mind getting lynched. I like giving Jesters their well deserved victory. And also, finally a wagon.
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music soli here! ;D
Scum probably jumped on both MM wagons (MarioManiac and mail-mi)
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Fabulous! A fellow four!
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I'm also 4.
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I'm gil thorpe. Apparently, liopoil watches modern family.
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vote: skip.
Clearly, number flavor names are Town, because I'm "109299962049139", and I'm Town.
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oh nvm let's vote: mail-mi so he wins as jester.
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(http://orig03.deviantart.net/601e/f/2014/095/6/8/intense_study_session_by_tiredbrony-d7d6bx4.gif)
vote: chairs
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(http://orig03.deviantart.net/601e/f/2014/095/6/8/intense_study_session_by_tiredbrony-d7d6bx4.gif)
vote: chairs
I have just one thing to say to you.
I WILL NOT STOP POSTING UNTIL ALL OF PONYVILLE, NAY, ALL OF EQUESTRIA CAN SHARE IN MY VISION!
(http://img1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20140428164323/mlp/images/thumb/8/8b/Rarity_with_green_eyes_and_magic_S4E23.png/800px-Rarity_with_green_eyes_and_magic_S4E23.png)
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But really, where do you get all the fantastic MLP emotes?
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(http://t11.deviantart.net/tNylq0nvPn2ntTeTtTo7qtphS9Y=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre12/6f6f/th/pre/i/2012/343/1/c/vector_05__rainbow_dash_by_eipred-d5nejb8.png)
But really, where do you get all the fantastic MLP emotes?
(http://orig14.deviantart.net/50d8/f/2012/212/7/7/deviantart_by_mr_emoo-d59bxr6.png) (http://www.deviantart.com/browse/all/?section=&global=1&q=mlp+vector) (http://orig05.deviantart.net/59f0/f/2014/083/2/6/26886c7b8e7733be42391cc4ca64e1ae-d2v1wqw.gif) (http://siiverspawn.deviantart.com/favourites/53773649/Featured)
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vote: MarioManiac4
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Hey silver, if you are allowed to put links to your pictures, why don't you just link us to whatever you want to say?
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(http://orig06.deviantart.net/43a9/f/2012/005/1/d/mlp_fluttershy_yay_stamp__animated__by_stickfigurequeen-d4le1o4.gif)
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Hey silver, if you are allowed to put links to your pictures, why don't you just link us to whatever you want to say?
Or you know, he could just put all the text he wants in a picture. I'm pretty sure he's just doing it for fun though, not because of an actual restriction.
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vote: mario
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Hey silver, if you are allowed to put links to your pictures, why don't you just link us to whatever you want to say?
(http://t13.deviantart.net/8W5lOEHrdorQEWeu9paKDL9Kieg=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre08/6e5f/th/pre/i/2011/273/7/3/thinking_rainbow_dash_by_rainbowcrab-d4bepjj.png)
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Hey silver, if you are allowed to put links to your pictures, why don't you just link us to whatever you want to say?
Or you know, he could just put all the text he wants in a picture. I'm pretty sure he's just doing it for fun though, not because of an actual restriction.
vote: Awaclus vote: Awaclus
vote: MarioManiac4
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I'm confused but feeling sheepish.
vote: mariomaniac4
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I'm confused but feeling sheepish.
vote: mariomaniac4
No. vote: e lynch all liars.
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Remind me what e lied about?
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Remind me what e lied about?
He said his number is 4, when he is clearly 2.71828......
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I have lost track of the votes on me now...
With 17 alive it will be nine to lynch.
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Ni
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Mail-mi makes a solid case. Let's get rid of the strong town players.
vote: mail-mi
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I'm away from games for a while.
quick! let's lycnh witherweaver. obv!scum
vote: witherweaver
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I have always wanted to lynch a v/la person.
Bastard is the perfect place to do it
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Fulfill one of my evil TOWN dreams. (definitely not a scum dream since I am obviously town)
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Fulfill one of my evil TOWN dreams. (definitely not a scum dream since I am obviously town)
vote: WW
I aim to please.
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Vote: WW
if your not a 4 you must perish. sorry.
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vote: silverchair
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vote: silverchair
(http://t06.deviantart.net/9wzyoVfLPpWHoyEubnT7xeVquUA=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre09/e133/th/pre/f/2012/131/9/b/rainbow_dash_just_doesn__t_care_by_orschmann-d4zbfzr.png)
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Hey silver, if you are allowed to put links to your pictures, why don't you just link us to whatever you want to say?
(http://t14.deviantart.net/7kjFhO0s1_6RtxI-MQR4imMMD88=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre01/6007/th/pre/f/2013/012/1/5/rainbow_dash_has_mail__vector__by_datbrass-d5rb1zh.png) (http://andreakihlstedt.com/wpsys/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/NO.jpg) (http://t12.deviantart.net/VHBBAfWKSW3B5Vay4iyKUc8T9k0=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre05/dfe9/th/pre/i/2014/350/e/5/rainbow_dash___what_by_bobsicle0-d89e4tg.png)
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(https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRURVKZgluraWBVA7Ymw1xe-u718wUqxjs0SYEayslyCA06GMF7)
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Fulfill one of my evil TOWN dreams. (definitely not a scum dream since I am obviously town)
vote: e
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Prod: mail-mi.
Stop lurking, okay?
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Vote: no lynch
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I like ashers idea
Vote: no lynch
maybe we can be friends with scum. Maybe they are just misunderstood.
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(http://t14.deviantart.net/Gr_21aS6cJgF-VY94OM88htAygg=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre12/ef97/th/pre/i/2012/252/1/a/rainbow_dash_vector___assault_by_anxet-d5e38ut.png)
vote: no-lynch
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Prod: mail-mi.
Stop lurking, okay?
I'm here I'm here.
vote: e
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Interesting that three people want a no lynch
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no lynch D1?
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-IZgwzO5H_WY/UqQYmFzCUcI/AAAAAAABoB4/JGIQFU2FHfw/s1600/492148__safe_solo_rainbow+dash_animated_cute_season+4_daring+don%27t_spoiler-colon-s04e04_dashabetes_swinging.gif)
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Interesting that three people want a no lynch
I would lynch Silverspawn or Chairs.
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Interesting that three people want a no lynch
I would lynch Silverspawn or Chairs.
What about e?
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Interesting that three people want a no lynch
I would lynch Silverspawn or Chairs.
Let's do vote: chairs
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I think it's fairly likely that silverspawn is scum, because
1) He's not 4
2) He was scum in Futuramafia
3) It's easy to fake a posting restriction as scum, and then you have an excuse for not providing any useful content
Even if he's really town, losing a player with a posting restriction doesn't seem awful.
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I think it's fairly likely that silverspawn is scum, because
1) He's not 4
2) He was scum in Futuramafia
3) It's easy to fake a posting restriction as scum, and then you have an excuse for not providing any useful content
Even if he's really town, losing a player with a posting restriction doesn't seem awful.
Great case!
vote: silver
but wait, aren't you helpful only as scum?
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I think it's fairly likely that silverspawn is scum, because
1) He's not 4
2) He was scum in Futuramafia
3) It's easy to fake a posting restriction as scum, and then you have an excuse for not providing any useful content
Even if he's really town, losing a player with a posting restriction doesn't seem awful.
Great case!
vote: silver
but wait, aren't you helpful only as scum?
I'm always helpful. It's just that people think that I'm not helpful whenever I'm town.
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Besides, I'm an IC.
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Or vote: silver
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finally kind of something!
vote: silverspawn
Also, Awalcus won't be lynched by me in the foreseeable future.
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I think it's fairly likely that silverspawn is scum, because
(http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/kingdomhearts/images/a/a0/Daybreak_Town_KHX.png/revision/latest?cb=20130725040645) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2e/Exclamation_mark_red.png)
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Or vote: silver
(http://kiwianatown.co.nz/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/sheep.jpg)
vote: gkrieg13
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3) It's easy to fake a posting restriction as scum, and then you have an excuse for not providing any useful content
(http://t04.deviantart.net/22GkKVaV0tblyY2IK2utc8eMzII=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre14/ade6/th/pre/i/2012/021/8/3/rainbow_dash___tear_by_cptofthefriendship-d4n6awh.png)
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2) He was scum in Futuramafia
(http://t13.deviantart.net/ot-x1s7Ao5SCvVCibyTyJdN4ft4=/300x200/filters:fixed_height(100,100):origin()/pre03/9e0b/th/pre/f/2012/058/c/9/rd___is_her_face_gonna_stay_like_that__by_thelawn-d4r5b10.png)
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Interesting that three people want a no lynch
I would lynch Silverspawn or Chairs.
(http://www.bigdanmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/cheap-cheap-chicken.jpg)
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I knew it! You have no way to explain not being a 4.
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I knew it! You have no way to explain not being a 4.
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(http://i1185.photobucket.com/albums/z353/Scumhunt/scumhuntbannerv2_zps1b6cb478.png) ?
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I knew it! You have no way to explain not being a 4.
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:-X vote: hockeysemlan
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vote: silverspawn
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ss is a 4, guys, let's lynch someone that's not 4
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I'm not certain he's a 4
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I'm not certain he's a 4
oh hello there mr not 4
vote: grkigker13
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ss is a 4, guys, let's lynch someone that's not 4
This is going to look super bad for you if he flips anything but 4.
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ss is a 4, guys, let's lynch someone that's not 4
This is going to look super bad for you if he flips anything but 4.
That's true, let me be a bit more clear:
ss has claimed 4, and I would rather lynch those that have claimed things other than 4
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vote: silverspawn
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hi
[vote] silverspawn [/vote]
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ss has claimed 4, and I would rather lynch those that have claimed things other than 4
It's easy to fakeclaim 4 as scum.
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ss has claimed 4, and I would rather lynch those that have claimed things other than 4
It's easy to fakeclaim 4 as scum.
sounds more like WIFOM to me
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ss has claimed 4, and I would rather lynch those that have claimed things other than 4
It's easy to fakeclaim 4 as scum.
sounds more like WIFOM to me
Not really. There's no reason to not claim 4 if you really are a 4.
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Vote: silverspawn
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Are we being serious right now or was that whole "let's play this game seriously" thing a joke. Cuz if this is a seriois wagon, then the only argument I agrre with is that we won't be losing much by lynching a towny who can't talk. But I don't think ss is faking a restriction cuz why would he restrict himself in a bastard game, not allowing himself to crack any jokes, thereby voluntarily ruining his own fun.
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Are we being serious right now or was that whole "let's play this game seriously" thing a joke. Cuz if this is a seriois wagon, then the only argument I agrre with is that we won't be losing much by lynching a towny who can't talk. But I don't think ss is faking a restriction cuz why would he restrict himself in a bastard game, not allowing himself to crack any jokes, thereby voluntarily ruining his own fun.
I'm playing this game seriously.
The posting restriction narrative is also very inconsistent. First, he was allowed to use links and now he isn't.
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Writing words in pictures also isn't consistent.
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Are we being serious right now or was that whole "let's play this game seriously" thing a joke. Cuz if this is a seriois wagon, then the only argument I agrre with is that we won't be losing much by lynching a towny who can't talk. But I don't think ss is faking a restriction cuz why would he restrict himself in a bastard game, not allowing himself to crack any jokes, thereby voluntarily ruining his own fun.
I'm playing this game seriously.
The posting restriction narrative is also very inconsistent. First, he was allowed to use links and now he isn't.
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Are we being serious right now or was that whole "let's play this game seriously" thing a joke. Cuz if this is a seriois wagon, then the only argument I agrre with is that we won't be losing much by lynching a towny who can't talk. But I don't think ss is faking a restriction cuz why would he restrict himself in a bastard game, not allowing himself to crack any jokes, thereby voluntarily ruining his own fun.
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unvote.
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Writing words in pictures also isn't consistent.
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>tfw I realize I'm actually posting MLP pics
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>tfw I realize I'm actually posting MLP pics
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2 things, its pretty unlikely for silver to get a random posting restriction, and that it would only be pictures.
the second thing is that I can't see chairs avatar. I miss the chairs
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2 things, its pretty unlikely for silver to get a random posting restriction
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People have voted for no lynch. They seem to imply that having a night as a start for the game is better than the day phase. If people think that, I might be even better to lynch a beloved role (we had one of those, right?).
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2 things, its pretty unlikely for silver to get a random posting restriction, and that it would only be pictures.
the second thing is that I can't see chairs avatar. I miss the chairs
Fixed!
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>tfw I realize I'm actually posting MLP pics
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2 things, its pretty unlikely for silver to get a random posting restriction, and that it would only be pictures.
the second thing is that I can't see chairs avatar. I miss the chairs
Fixed!
Thank you. I thought I was gonna have to vote you for that.
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Really everyone, vote: silverspawn so we don't have crazy overloaded threads full of images.
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vote: silverspawn
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vote: silverspawn
as good a reason as any
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vote: silverspawn
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vote: ss
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Hang on, before you guys lynch silverspawn, I might have something to claim.
I've been thinking about it and I don't see a downside to claiming at least part of my role, so here goes: most actions that target me will end up targetting someone else instead. That's all I'm going to say for now.
The thing that I said at the beginning of the game about my role being such that scum wouldn't kill me if they knew about it, may not actually be true. I was going to say that independently of what role and alignment I got, I just wanted to WIFOM everyone into oblivion, but then nobody over-analyzed it :(.
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Vote count 1.e
Not Voting (1): Witherweaver
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (8): Awaclus, hockeysemlan, gkrieg13, XerxesPraelor, chairs, ashersky, 2.71828....., Hydrad
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
gkrieg13 (2): , MarioManiac4, Ghacob
2.71828..... (1): mail-mi
hockeysemlan (1): silverspawn
Those sunglasses mean silverspawn has 8 votes. Looks like it is time for a hammer. s_p?
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Hang on, before you guys lynch silverspawn, I might have something to claim.
I've been thinking about it and I don't see a downside to claiming at least part of my role, so here goes: most actions that target me will end up targetting someone else instead. That's all I'm going to say for now.
The thing that I said at the beginning of the game about my role being such that scum wouldn't kill me if they knew about it, may not actually be true. I was going to say that independently of what role and alignment I got, I just wanted to WIFOM everyone into oblivion, but then nobody over-analyzed it :(.
I'm sorry for dissapointing you! it was a good idea though.
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Vote Count 1.3
Not Voting (2): Witherweaver, chairs
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (7): Awaclus, hockeysemlan, gkrieg13, XerxesPraelor, ashersky, 2.71828....., Hydrad
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
gkrieg13 (2): MarioManiac4, Ghacob
2.71828..... (1): mail-mi
hockeysemlan (1): silverspawn
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM.
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someone let me hammer please
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actually
vote silverspawn
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One more!
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actually
vote silverspawn
You need a : after the vote.
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OK!
vote: silverspawn
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guys stop stop stop stop STOP STOP STOP!!!!
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I'm not scum why would I fake a posting restriction as scum that's silly. I had good reasons for everything I did this game. so full claim I guess.
I'm a survivor. with no powers! nothing! which means it's super hard to win in a game like this. I can't be towny otherwise I get NK'd. I thought if I do this people would just have me around but scum would never kill me because I'm less valuable. really didn't predict the desire to lynch me day 1.
yeah I know 3d party roles are anti town yada yada listen I'm not faust (no offense at all), I promise to help town if you leave me alive as best I can and won't break that even if it loses me the game. If you read the mod QT of mafia 61 you know how I stand towards survivors.
now get the votes off. yeesh!
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I mean what would you have done! I love survivor but the chancse to live until the end in a 16 player game are abyssmal. I've been kinda easy to read recently so if I try to play a pro town game I'd just be killed. I had to do something.
and yeah it was also fun ^_^
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but also COME ON AWACLUS NEVER POSTS ANY REASONS. I could still reread and make informed votes even if I can't talk. I really don't think you needed to lynch me because of that. But apparently that was the problem.
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the only reason I even had to post so many images and 'clutter up the thread' was because you started pushing me. looking at you, ash. if you just kept me around I could have semi lurked but read along. of course if you force me to defend myself without being able to talk I have to post images. what do you expect.
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and I was serious about my hockey vote btw. he was scummiest upon reread.
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now get these votes off before someone hammers!
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Unvote
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but also COME ON AWACLUS NEVER POSTS ANY REASONS. I could still reread and make informed votes even if I can't talk. I really don't think you needed to lynch me because of that. But apparently that was the problem.
Actually I just wanted to see if you would stop at some point if a wagon formed on you. It was worth it.
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Lynching silverspawn still seems fine though.
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Lynching silverspawn still seems fine though.
well yes, it's not the worst thing unfortunately, as much as I'd like that to be different. but it's also not very good.
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from your perspective, if you believe my claim, you should consider me a little bit less valuable than a towny, but definitely not something you want to spend a lynch on.
if you don't believe my claim well why wouldn't you believe my claim?
at least give me the chance to hunt some scum today and tomorrow before you lynch me. I'll hardly have a valuable scum power, that would be way too much responsibility to do a crazy gambit like faking a posting restriction.
also I just pinned down WW in dwarf fortress, see how good my reads are? :P
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from your perspective, if you believe my claim, you should consider me a little bit less valuable than a towny, but definitely not something you want to spend a lynch on.
if you don't believe my claim well why wouldn't you believe my claim?
at least give me the chance to hunt some scum today and tomorrow before you lynch me. I'll hardly have a valuable scum power, that would be way too much responsibility to do a crazy gambit like faking a posting restriction.
also I just pinned down WW in dwarf fortress, see how good my reads are? :P
Well, your value depends on how well the game is going for town. If we lynch a bunch of scum early on, you're not something we want to spend a lynch on, but otherwise that won't necessarily be true. Which is why I agree that waiting at least one day before lynching you is good.
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okay good
apparently posting a ton of images would be mvp play as a jester. good to know.
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unvote
vote: awacius
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unvote
vote: awacius
Why are you voting for the IC?
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because i wanted to?
also
unvote, vote: Hydrad
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I trust ss that if he is a survivor here he will actually play towny. So I'm going to treat him as if he was either a VT or scum.
right now leaning VT though as thats a very weird thing to claim as scum. as in why would you ever claim that...
so woo ss is IC to me now!
also with that suddenly I guess I'm actually treating this game as more real instead of full on BM.
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I trust ss that if he is a survivor here he will actually play towny. So I'm going to treat him as if he was either a VT or scum.
I trust that he's going to play towards his win con. If he intends to win with town, it's not vastly different from being a VT, but he will still have to do everything in his power to stay alive which is not always pro-town (like quickhammering someone for self-preservation).
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I trust ss that if he is a survivor here he will actually play towny. So I'm going to treat him as if he was either a VT or scum.
I trust that he's going to play towards his win con. If he intends to win with town, it's not vastly different from being a VT, but he will still have to do everything in his power to stay alive which is not always pro-town (like quickhammering someone for self-preservation).
VT's would probably do that quickhammer also though.
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I trust ss that if he is a survivor here he will actually play towny. So I'm going to treat him as if he was either a VT or scum.
I trust that he's going to play towards his win con. If he intends to win with town, it's not vastly different from being a VT, but he will still have to do everything in his power to stay alive which is not always pro-town (like quickhammering someone for self-preservation).
VT's would probably do that quickhammer also though.
Well, in a situation with both at L-1, yeah. But in a situation with a claimed PR at L-1 and little time to deadline, silverspawn might hammer the PR just because he's the "default lynch" when nothing else works out.
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but he will still have to do everything in his power to stay alive which is not always pro-town (like quickhammering someone for self-preservation).
I won't, but i hope scum thinks so too and leaves me alive.
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vote: silverspawn
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anti town. vote: mail-mi
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anti town. vote: mail-mi
You're obviously E's partner, and no ones gonna lynch e, so you're the next best thing.
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vote: mail
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anti town. vote: mail-mi
You're obviously E's partner, and no ones gonna lynch e, so you're the next best thing.
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I can vote: mail-mi
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I'm also fine with vote: mail-mi
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vote: mail-mi
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well, mail-mi. he's made it very clear that he doesn't want to take the game seriously, so a normal read can't really be formed. but he did post this:
Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
so we probably can't go wrong. that was really early, too.
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Hmmmmmm... I am not sure about this.
One one side, Mail-Mi sided with me when everyone thought I was a Scum.
On the other, buddying a newb would be a very effective tactic.
Therefore I VOTE: MAIL-MI
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I buddy newbies for the town cred as town.
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well, mail-mi. he's made it very clear that he doesn't want to take the game seriously, so a normal read can't really be formed. but he did post this:
Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
so we probably can't go wrong. that was really early, too.
What? No, I'm taking this so seriously.
vote: sudgy
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I buddy newbies for the town cred as town.
How would it give you town cred?
It's to get the newb's vote in LYLO.
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Silverspawn is the scummiest scum ever. All of that, everything he did all day, is anti-town to the max.
He distracted from scum hunting, wasted a lot of time and pages, and straight up lied. None of that should make you want to let him live. If, for some reason, he actually is a survivor, the only players who want him alive are scum.
But I'm convinced this is a last ditch effort to save his scum skin, and it seems to be working.
As a community, we let so much anti-town behavior slide, from the crazy lurking to straight up town lies. It has to end, and the only way is to lynch people for it.
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Vote Count 1.4
Not Voting (3): Witherweaver, Awaclus, Hydrad
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (4): hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, ashersky, mail-mi
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
mail-mi (6): silverspawn, Ghacob, 2.71828....., gkrieg13, chairs, MarioManiac4
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM.
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that's a very ashersky-thing to say. you're getting predictable.
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oh, and you're wrong of course. well, mostly. I did lie, as I said, and I was being slightly anti town, although not nearly as much as you're making it sound like, and only because I was being pushed so much.
As a community, we let so much anti-town behavior slide, from the crazy lurking to straight up town lies. It has to end, and the only way is to lynch people for it.
it's a bastard game... sure I am taking it pretty seriously, but others aren't, and you certainly can't just apply the usual standards to it.
But most importantly, you're only arguing for why what I have done is bad, but that's not what matters. What matters is what lynching me will do. And it will be bad for town.
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they're both scummy to me so I would be fine with lynching either of them.
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I mean, in other bastard games the mod is lying to players just for fun, and you want to policy lynch me for lying as a survivor which was in the best interest of my wincon? please.
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And you also haven't explained to me the narrative for faking a posting restriction as scum.
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Well I think if silverspawn is actually a survivor, he would mostly play pro-town, just because of the speccy QT from that one game (M61?). But I'm not sure why everyone is assuming his claim is true...
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And you also haven't explained to me the narrative for faking a posting restriction as scum.
Well I still don't really understand why you did it as a survivor...I think any argument you could make for that, you could also make for doing it as scum.
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And you also haven't explained to me the narrative for faking a posting restriction as scum.
Well I still don't really understand why you did it as a survivor...I think any argument you could make for that, you could also make for doing it as scum.
I did it so scum wouldn't NK me... pretty sure that narrative doesn't work as scum. Well, I mean, I also did it because I used to be in a forum where we used to post pony picture all the time and I really miss it - but mostly I did it not to get NK'd.
I could have also claimed survivor right away. Maybe that would have been smarter.
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I believe Silverspawn.
vote: mailmi
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I stay with an omgus-vote on silver..
Why am I scummy other than forgetting about this game for a while?
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I stay with an omgus-vote on silver..
Why am I scummy other than forgetting about this game for a while?
I'm not voting for you anymore. And I don't remember what exactly I found scummy. It wasn't anything big, just a day one thing.
mail-mi's comment about his lynch being good for town is more significant.
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And you also haven't explained to me the narrative for faking a posting restriction as scum.
Well I still don't really understand why you did it as a survivor...I think any argument you could make for that, you could also make for doing it as scum.
I did it so scum wouldn't NK me... pretty sure that narrative doesn't work as scum. Well, I mean, I also did it because I used to be in a forum where we used to post pony picture all the time and I really miss it - but mostly I did it not to get NK'd.
I could have also claimed survivor right away. Maybe that would have been smarter.
Oh right...I mean it still doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's the argument you would have to make.
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Ah, my bad. Still can't see what's bad lynching claimed 3d parties D1.. pretty safe spot.
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Oh right...I mean it still doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's the argument you would have to make.
but why doesn't it make sense? would scum ever kill someone who can't write? very unlikely.
and if I don't do something, the chances to not get NK'd are very small.
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Ah, my bad. Still can't see what's bad lynching claimed 3d parties D1.. pretty safe spot.
we can do better. mail-mi claimed that his lynch is not bad for town. he is probably scum.
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Anyway, I think you could still have done something like that as scum, because look where it got you now. Everyone believes you and has decided against lynching you.
That being said, I do think it's a lot more likely that you're telling the truth. It just sort of bothers me that nobody questioned the claim at all.
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Oh right...I mean it still doesn't really make sense to me, but I guess that's the argument you would have to make.
but why doesn't it make sense? would scum ever kill someone who can't write? very unlikely.
and if I don't do something, the chances to not get NK'd are very small.
Well anything that's a reason for scum to not NK you is a reason for town to lynch you. Anyway, I guess you've found that out now. It does make the survivor narrative a lot stronger than the scum narrative, which is why I lean toward believing you.
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Well anything that's a reason for scum to not NK you is a reason for town to lynch you.
This probably isn't true in general actually, but I think it's true here.
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That being said, I do think it's a lot more likely that you're telling the truth. It just sort of bothers me that nobody questioned the claim at all.
ash kind of did.
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Well anything that's a reason for scum to not NK you is a reason for town to lynch you.
This probably isn't true in general actually, but I think it's true here.
well yes. I didn't see that coming though. I thought town would find it... uhm, amusing? harmless? entertaining? I also didn't expect everyone to take the game seriously, I thought it was just me.
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Bastard or not, I play to win.
Survivors ALWAYS turn against town when they can win with scum. There is no way I believe you will take a loss to ensure a town win.
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So, you are lying scum or an anti-town survivor. You are 100% the best lynch every day.
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Ah, my bad. Still can't see what's bad lynching claimed 3d parties D1.. pretty safe spot.
It's because instead of trying to find scum and expressing our individual opinions about which players are the scummiest, we collectively just decide to lynch a 3rd party. We don't have people aggressively pushing the case against him, we don't have people defending him, it doesn't even matter who is on-wagon and who isn't because that still means nothing more than "wanted to lynch the survivor" or "didn't want to lynch the survivor". I.e. the flip won't tell us anything about anyone on the wagon, which is why it's worse than lynching a VT that we didn't know was a VT (there probably isn't one in this setup, but there probably are people with incredibly weak, entirely pointless or even harmful roles). If we do that N1, it's like giving scum just a free night, which is really not great.
On D2, there's already a lot of information available from the lynch (and a little from the NK). At this point, for instance, we already know if or not we managed to lynch scum D1 (which is useful when determining if or not we want to lynch silverspawn at all), and the information from the wagon already gives us some people who are more suspicious than others, which means that "let's just lynch the survivor today" or "let's not lynch the survivor today" is also a position you're taking towards the other potential lynches. Sure, there's some of that D1 too, but it's really marginal compared to D2.
Bastard or not, I play to win.
Survivors ALWAYS turn against town when they can win with scum. There is no way I believe you will take a loss to ensure a town win.
And they NEVER turn against town when they can win with town. Survivors are only bad for town if town is losing anyway.
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If we do that N1,
D1, rather. If we do have a night vig that can shoot silverspawn, they probably should shoot him N1.
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Scum can force the survivor to switch, just by offering to NK him.
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Someone claimed survivor? I'm totally for lynching
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Survivors ALWAYS turn against town when they can win with scum. There is no way I believe you will take a loss to ensure a town win.
you clearly don't know me very well.
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mail mi has stated that his lynch is not bad for town. Let me dig out the quote:
Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
that was after making it very clear that he didn't take the game seriously. To me this sounds like a scum claim which he didn't expect people to really care about, since it's bastard.
How come you don't want to lynch him?
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Scum can force the survivor to switch, just by offering to NK him.
how would they do that? if they ask me publicly, they reveal their identity. Even if they can message me at night, they reveal their identity to me and therefore to town. They'd have to have an anonymous way to message me in order to blackmail me.
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ya the only reason it really worked with Faust in that game is because we could blackmail him to kill him and stop his wincon.
uhh actually wait that still applies to silver also...
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Who claimed not town?
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Who claimed not town?
I did. if you want to vote for me, don't. that's anti town.
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ya the only reason it really worked with Faust in that game is because we could blackmail him to kill him and stop his wincon.
uhh actually wait that still applies to silver also...
Scum can force the survivor to switch, just by offering to NK him.
how would they do that? if they ask me publicly, they reveal their identity. Even if they can message me at night, they reveal their identity to me and therefore to town. They'd have to have an anonymous way to message me in order to blackmail me.
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Who claimed not town?
I did. if you want to vote for me, don't. that's anti town.
Sweet!
Vote: Silverspawn
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back to vote: silverspawn
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Scummy. You know, I can't make town win on my own if you're actively trying to harm it. mail-mi has at least 50% chance to flip scum. If you rather want to lynch someone who has promised to help town for the remainder of the game, well...
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not to mention that the flip will hold no information beyond the fact that you're deflecting from a better lynch, which we know already.
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Scummy. You know, I can't make town win on my own if you're actively trying to harm it. mail-mi has at least 50% chance to flip scum. If you rather want to lynch someone who has promised to help town for the remainder of the game, well...
If scum promised to help town all game, would you believe him?
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vote: ssCan somebody explain what town's solution is in the following scenario:
There are 5 players left, 2 town, 2 mafia, 1 survivor. The mafia players reveal themselves and threaten that if the survivor helps town lynch one of them today, the other will kill the survivor that night. The survivor now has to help lynch town in order to win.
So why arent we lynching ss?
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Vote Count 1.5
Not Voting (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (6): hockeysemlan, ashersky, mail-mi, Witherweaver, 2.71828....., skip wooznum
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
mail-mi (6): silverspawn, Ghacob, gkrieg13, chairs, MarioManiac4, XerxesPraelor
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM.
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town's
scumslip
and uh hm
My thoughts are that (as some others have said) there's little to be gained from who wants to/does not want to lynch a survivor vs a town/scum
I'd rather try to lynch scum
we can reconsider that situation after hitting town once or twice, which I'd rather not happen by hitting scum
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vote: silverspawn
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I think silverspawn is making some good points. A survivor wants to help the winning team, and so lynching him is basically 50/50 either way, whereas lynching someone who could be MFia has much more potential to help us.
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vote: e
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vote: e
any uh explaination you'd like to give there?
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vote: e
any uh explaination you'd like to give there?
LALAEASLBHNA4,BHI2.7.
Also all the 4s are scum. So even if e isn't lying (which he is) he's still scum.
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I am a 4
I am town
Therefore, all 4s are town
qed
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mail mi has stated that his lynch is not bad for town. Let me dig out the quote:
Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
that was after making it very clear that he didn't take the game seriously. To me this sounds like a scum claim which he didn't expect people to really care about, since it's bastard.
How come you don't want to lynch him?
I read this as just being in contrast with whoever before him said that lynching them would be very bad for town. So like, he's claiming a weak or negative utility PR (but still town).
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vote: ssCan somebody explain what town's solution is in the following scenario:
There are 5 players left, 2 town, 2 mafia, 1 survivor. The mafia players reveal themselves and threaten that if the survivor helps town lynch one of them today, the other will kill the survivor that night. The survivor now has to help lynch town in order to win.
So why arent we lynching ss?
Oh no, there's one specific scenario where town will lose because of the survivor. There are also situations where scum will lose because of the survivor.
I have already explained that lynching ss provides very little information at this point, which is why it is essentially as good as no lynch.
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Lynching solely for information is scummy.
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Lynching solely for information is scummy.
I guess town should stop lynching people D1 in every game then.
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vote: ssCan somebody explain what town's solution is in the following scenario:
There are 5 players left, 2 town, 2 mafia, 1 survivor. The mafia players reveal themselves and threaten that if the survivor helps town lynch one of them today, the other will kill the survivor that night. The survivor now has to help lynch town in order to win.
So why arent we lynching ss?
Oh no, there's one specific scenario where town will lose because of the survivor. There are also situations where scum will lose because of the survivor.
I have already explained that lynching ss provides very little information at this point, which is why it is essentially as good as no lynch.
The potential of him lying is still there. Survivor is an easy claim for scum to do so I'm not surprised if SS actually is lying, if he isn't town hasn't lost anything. There's no downside, if we're letting him be there very well could be..
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The potential of him lying is still there. Survivor is an easy claim for scum to do so I'm not surprised if SS actually is lying, if he isn't town hasn't lost anything. There's no downside, if we're letting him be there very well could be..
Why would scum claim a potentially anti-town alignment?
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The potential of him lying is still there. Survivor is an easy claim for scum to do so I'm not surprised if SS actually is lying, if he isn't town hasn't lost anything. There's no downside, if we're letting him be there very well could be..
Why would scum claim a potentially anti-town alignment?
Easier to get away with.
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The potential of him lying is still there. Survivor is an easy claim for scum to do so I'm not surprised if SS actually is lying, if he isn't town hasn't lost anything. There's no downside, if we're letting him be there very well could be..
Why would scum claim a potentially anti-town alignment?
Easier to get away with.
No it's not.
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vote: ssCan somebody explain what town's solution is in the following scenario:
There are 5 players left, 2 town, 2 mafia, 1 survivor. The mafia players reveal themselves ...
Is anyone even reading my posts?
Your argument is wrong for 3 different reasons. Every single one of them is, on it's own, enough to make lynching me bad for town. I have listed all of them before, but since you aren't reading my posts, I will do so again.
1. I would reveal scum's identity in the above described situation, causing town to win.
2. we are 16 players. Survivors who play for their own wincon are only likely to help scum if scum is about to win. You have plenty of time to see if that might be the case and then lynch him.
3. Scum most likely has no way to reveal themselves to me. In M61, I literally gave them an unlimited neighborizing power. the chances for a similar thing to exist here (with random roles for everyone) is very small.
Instead of just repeating things I already answered to, can you do me the favor to actually address these points if you plan to keep your vote on me instead of lynching scum?
There is only one reason why you should lynch me - that is if you believe I am scum who claimed survivor, like ash apparently does. In that case, kindly explain me why I would fake a posting restriction.
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3. Scum most likely has no way to reveal themselves to me. In M61, I literally gave them an unlimited neighborizing power. the chances for a similar thing to exist here (with random roles for everyone) is very small.
I'm pretty sure the scum has the miraculous power of posting in this thread, though.
1. I would reveal scum's identity in the above described situation, causing town to win.
While you could also relatively safely lynch one of the scum with the townies, it's obviously a lot better for you to just lynch one of the townies with the scum because there's no need to take the risk that you get NK'd despite it being an awful play for scum.
2 is a good argument, however, and even better is the argument that lynching you doesn't give us any information.
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3. Scum most likely has no way to reveal themselves to me. In M61, I literally gave them an unlimited neighborizing power. the chances for a similar thing to exist here (with random roles for everyone) is very small.
I'm pretty sure the scum has the miraculous power of posting in this thread, though.
[/quote]I guess. doesn't really matter though due to 1.
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3. Scum most likely has no way to reveal themselves to me. In M61, I literally gave them an unlimited neighborizing power. the chances for a similar thing to exist here (with random roles for everyone) is very small.
I'm pretty sure the scum has the miraculous power of posting in this thread, though.
I guess. doesn't really matter though due to 1.
[/quote]it doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
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it doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
He isn't, though. Scum wouldn't kill him anyway. He's forced to vote with them because that immediately wins the game for him and is completely risk-free.
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
Nobody buys that though.
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I agree with Awa on this one. But I also agree that it doesn't supply very much information to town.
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
Nobody buys that though.
I hope so! my life pretty much relies on scum not buying it.
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mail mi has stated that his lynch is not bad for town. Let me dig out the quote:
Lynching me would not be very bad news for town, but you shouldn't do it anyway.
that was after making it very clear that he didn't take the game seriously. To me this sounds like a scum claim which he didn't expect people to really care about, since it's bastard.
How come you don't want to lynch him?
I read this as just being in contrast with whoever before him said that lynching them would be very bad for town. So like, he's claiming a weak or negative utility PR (but still town).
Nope.
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have we lynched mail-mi yet
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Nope.
So you're scum then?
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Nope.
So you're scum then?
;)
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Nope.
So you're scum then?
;)
Also, nope.
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vote: mail-mi
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
this is your story and you're sticking to it?
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
this is your story and you're sticking to it?
you read my post!
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vote: mail-mi
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
this is your story and you're sticking to it?
He's obviously going to vote with scum to stay alive. Lynching him is still worse than lynching someone else today.
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Hey. I've been VLA. Can someone give me a quick wrap-up of what happened so far?
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Nevermind, you're too slow.
After reading everything, I can't help but ask...
WHY SO SERIOUS?
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I like this guy:
I am a 4
I am town
Therefore, all 4s are town
qed
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Hey. I've been VLA. Can someone give me a quick wrap-up of what happened so far?
Silver got on a wagon due to his (faked) restriction, and out of that claimed survivor, which realibility is being discussed right now.
I don't really know the theory that well. My vote is staying because I don't like the odds of hitting scum D1, I rather hit a claimed survivor with a small chance of being scum, than a random person who probably is town anyway. Now everyone seems to go for mail-mi, so that hardly matters what I think, but still.
PPE: BECAUSE MAFIA IS ONLY FUN WHEN YOU WIN
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Oh boy
Vote: hockeysemlan
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Hey. I've been VLA. Can someone give me a quick wrap-up of what happened so far?
sure
- I faked a posting restriction which would only allow me to post images that I didn't upload myself and don't use any kind of code
- people started pushing me because ashersky.
- I had to come clean and claim survivor (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13486.msg511043#msg511043) and admit that said restriction was fake. I did it to prevent scum from killing me, which I'm still fairly certain would have worked.
- ash made a post (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13486.msg511130#msg511130) about how I'm awful and need to be lynched asap
- I repeateadly pointed out why I shouldn't be lynched. (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13486.msg511246#msg511246)
- I also pointed out how mail-mi basically claimed an anti town role (http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/index.php?topic=13486.msg509807#msg509807) and that we should lynch him and the reasonable part of our player base went on to do just that.
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Silver got on a wagon due to his (faked) restriction, and out of that claimed survivor, which realibility is being discussed right now.
*silver *whose *reliability
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Yeah, yeah, waht you did seems very like you. I think I can exclude the possibility that someone has secretly taken over your account.
You also want to lynch mail-mi because he wants to lynch you. Sure. I mean, you're a Survivor, he's a threat to you, you want to lynch him. Yet why everyone supports this self-preservation move is beyond me.
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Silver got on a wagon due to his (faked) restriction, and out of that claimed survivor, which realibility is being discussed right now.
*silver *whose *reliability
This is bastard, I don't have to spellcheck.
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I liked you better when you weren't talking.
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Vote Count 1.6
Not Voting (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (6): hockeysemlan, ashersky, Witherweaver, 2.71828....., skip wooznum, gkrieg13
mail-mi (5): silverspawn, Ghacob, chairs, MarioManiac4, XerxesPraelor
2.71828..... (1): mail-mi
hockeysemlan (1): faust
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 1 ends July 21, 12:00 AM.
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Yeah, yeah, waht you did seems very like you. I think I can exclude the possibility that someone has secretly taken over your account.
You also want to lynch mail-mi because he wants to lynch you. Sure. I mean, you're a Survivor, he's a threat to you, you want to lynch him. Yet why everyone supports this self-preservation move is beyond me.
I didn't even know he was voting for me.
I liked you better when you weren't talking.
I did too!
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I mean even if you think that I'm doing it out of self-preservation, which is weird, but whatever, are you trying to tell me that he isn't a good lynch? If so, please explain why - he posted the aforementioned quote at a time when he was expecting for everyone to not take the game seriously in the slightest. At such a time, claiming mafia isn't a weird thing to do.
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... he isn't even voting for me, what are you even going on about?
If I wanted to lynch the player most dangerous to me, I'm pretty sure it would be ash. But I predicted a similar response from ash and I did so without having any clue about his alignment, and he did make the response, and I still don't have a clue about his alignment. I want to lynch mail-mi because he's probably scum.
Which, by the way, is also good for my wincon. If things go well for town, then town is less inclined to lynch me, because most of them still believe I'd side with scum if it helps me.
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Oh boy
Vote: hockeysemlan
I hope you never going to give explainations for your votes on me. Dominionstrategy, where you learn theory by getting slapped in the face.. ^^
And yeah, my english is euro, deal with it..
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Oh boy
Vote: hockeysemlan
I hope you never going to give explainations for your votes on me. Dominionstrategy, where you learn theory by getting slapped in the face.. ^^
And yeah, my english is euro, deal with it..
I didn't understand the reason either. And my grammar correction wasn't meant to be taken seriously, it was just an OMGUS reaction to you advocating to lynch me.
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My vote is staying because I don't like the odds of hitting scum D1, I rather hit a claimed survivor with a small chance of being scum, than a random person who probably is town anyway.
The main point of the D1 lynch is not to hit scum, it is to force people to have an opinion about someone and then confirming said someone's alignment through their flip. Lynching a claimed survivor achieves neither of those things, nor will it achieve hitting scum.
A no lynch D1 is absolutely awful for town. Lynching silverspawn is only slightly better.
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BASTARD RANDOM LYNCH TIME
(http://forum.dominionstrategy.com/Themes/core/images/dice_warn.gif) This dice roll may have been tampered with!
Rolled 1d16 : 1, total 1
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vote: Awaclus
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And awaclus is totally right. We need a lynch D1.
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And awaclus is totally right. We need a lynch D1.
Yeah, but not a random one.
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It doesn't matter if scum's identities are revealed because you're forced to vote with them to stay alive.
I wouldn't vote with scum to stay alive.
this is your story and you're sticking to it?
you read my post!
I've read all your posts. This is the first one in which you say you'd rather lose than make town lose which is something I assumed (up until you said it) wasn't true because it's outrageous and you hadn't said it yet. Now that you have said it I dont believe you and still want to lynch you.
Awaclus's point that this doesn't give us information, I'll have to think about. But he's right that the only potential reason to keep you alive is that potentially we might get a better lynch. Trusting you is out of the question
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I've read all your posts. This is the first one in which you say you'd rather lose than make town lose which is something I assumed (up until you said it) wasn't true because it's outrageous and you hadn't said it yet.
Yes I did. Very early. In fact I said it in the initial post where I claimed survivor. Here it is:
(...) I promise to help town if you leave me alive as best I can and won't break that even if it loses me the game. If you read the mod QT of mafia 61 you know how I stand towards survivors.
Now that you have said it I dont believe you and still want to lynch you.
good, good. that gives scum a reason not to NK me. as long as not too many town's think that way, it's a good thing. I don't even want to convince you otherwise.
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I've read all your posts. This is the first one in which you say you'd rather lose than make town lose which is something I assumed (up until you said it) wasn't true because it's outrageous and you hadn't said it yet.
Yes I did. Very early. In fact I said it in the initial post where I claimed survivor. Here it is:
(...) I promise to help town if you leave me alive as best I can and won't break that even if it loses me the game. If you read the mod QT of mafia 61 you know how I stand towards survivors.
heh I remember reading that actually. Must've forgotten. Sorry bout that
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My vote is staying because I don't like the odds of hitting scum D1, I rather hit a claimed survivor with a small chance of being scum, than a random person who probably is town anyway.
The main point of the D1 lynch is not to hit scum, it is to force people to have an opinion about someone and then confirming said someone's alignment through their flip. Lynching a claimed survivor achieves neither of those things, nor will it achieve hitting scum.
A no lynch D1 is absolutely awful for town. Lynching silverspawn is only slightly better.
Ah, thanks, that was actually clarifiying quite a lot..
vote: Mail-mi
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My vote is staying because I don't like the odds of hitting scum D1, I rather hit a claimed survivor with a small chance of being scum, than a random person who probably is town anyway.
The main point of the D1 lynch is not to hit scum, it is to force people to have an opinion about someone and then confirming said someone's alignment through their flip. Lynching a claimed survivor achieves neither of those things, nor will it achieve hitting scum.
A no lynch D1 is absolutely awful for town. Lynching silverspawn is only slightly better.
Ah, thanks, that was actually clarifiying quite a lot..
vote: Mail-mi
Don't listen to Awaclus. He's saying scummy stuff.
Who says the main point of any lynch isn't to hit scum? Scum. The point of all lynches is to try to lynch all players who will keep town from winning. That's scum, and players who may help scum, like Survivors.
Lynching silverspawn is a GUARANTEED correct lynch. We absolutely will not lynch town if we lynch him. Not lynching town is super important.
Lynching anyone else is a chance of a mislynch. That's bad. Lynch silverspawn, see if scum kills anyone, and we're working from a reduced pool of suspects.
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I will, also, to be safe, add some reasons why scum should kill silverspawn, were he to survive today.
1. He says he'll die before he helps scum. Come on scum, why leave him alive then?
2. Killing silverspawn gives town zero indication of who scum is. It doesn't help us scumhunt, whereas a kill of a towny actually reduces the "scum pool." Remember, from a townie's perspective, there are 15 other unknown players. Silverspawn claiming means we are down to 14 players. If we mislynch, we're down to 13 possible suspects going into N1.
Kill townie: Day 2 starts with 14 alive -- for each townie, they can remove Silverspawn from the possible scum pool, thereby increasing our chances of catching scum (N/12 instead of N/13)
Kill silverspawn: Day 2 starts with 14 alive -- for each townie, no one to remove, so they are at N/13. Killing silverspawn is therefore the best bet for scum.
3. He's unlikely to be protected by a doctor, because we know he's not town so he's not worth protecting. He's also unlikely to be Watched.
So there are three good reasons for scum to kill him. But oftentimes they don't.
So we should absolutely lynch him.
But really, we should just lynch him.
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The point of all lynches is to try to lynch all players who will keep town from winning.
Yeah, so why does town usually lynch someone D1 instead of a no lynch?
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How is everyone reading me?
I do not think Awacius is the correct lynch for today, he is town.
VOTE: ASHERSKY
The most important thing is lynching from a mafia faction, and I do not like how he talked to the scum; it seemed like trying to communicate to another scumteam/SK that they should kill silverspawn.
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How is everyone reading me?
I do not think Awacius is the correct lynch for today, he is town.
VOTE: ASHERSKY
The most important thing is lynching from a mafia faction, and I do not like how he talked to the scum; it seemed like trying to communicate to another scumteam/SK that they should kill silverspawn.
This makes no sense to me
I like it.
Vote: silverspawn
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And awaclus is totally right. We need a lynch D1.
Good case.
Vote: Awaclus
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How is everyone reading me?
I do not think Awacius is the correct lynch for today, he is town.
VOTE: ASHERSKY
The most important thing is lynching from a mafia faction, and I do not like how he talked to the scum; it seemed like trying to communicate to another scumteam/SK that they should kill silverspawn.
This makes no sense to me
I like it.
Vote: silverspawn
vote: Faust
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I will, also, to be safe, add some reasons why scum should kill silverspawn, were he to survive today.
1. He says he'll die before he helps scum. Come on scum, why leave him alive then?
2. Killing silverspawn gives town zero indication of who scum is. It doesn't help us scumhunt, whereas a kill of a towny actually reduces the "scum pool." Remember, from a townie's perspective, there are 15 other unknown players. Silverspawn claiming means we are down to 14 players. If we mislynch, we're down to 13 possible suspects going into N1.
Kill townie: Day 2 starts with 14 alive -- for each townie, they can remove Silverspawn from the possible scum pool, thereby increasing our chances of catching scum (N/12 instead of N/13)
Kill silverspawn: Day 2 starts with 14 alive -- for each townie, no one to remove, so they are at N/13. Killing silverspawn is therefore the best bet for scum.
3. He's unlikely to be protected by a doctor, because we know he's not town so he's not worth protecting. He's also unlikely to be Watched.
So there are three good reasons for scum to kill him. But oftentimes they don't.
So we should absolutely lynch him.
But really, we should just lynch him.
I was literally going to make those exact points to argue why we shouldn't lynch silverspawn. He's going to get killed anyway, so why waste a lynch on it?
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I was literally going to make those exact points to argue why we shouldn't lynch silverspawn. He's going to get killed anyway, so why waste a lynch on it?
I don't think I'm going to get killed anyway because of people like ash but I agree that this conclusion makes more sense
how about we stop talking about me and lynch mail-mi?
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I was literally going to make those exact points to argue why we shouldn't lynch silverspawn. He's going to get killed anyway, so why waste a lynch on it?
I don't think I'm going to get killed anyway because of people like ash but I agree that this conclusion makes more sense
how about we stop talking about me and lynch mail-mi?
OMGOSHUS.
vote: silverspawn
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Unofficial Vote Count:
silverspawn (6): ashersky, Witherweaver, skip wooznum, gkrieg13, e, mail-mi
mail-mi (5): silverspawn, XerxesPraelor, Ghacob, chairs, hockeysemlan
Awaclus (1): faust
Not Voting (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
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well mario isn't included, but either way. don't derphammer.
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well mario isn't included, but either way. don't derphammer.
It takes 8 to lynch, anyway, based on your count.
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well mario isn't included, but either way. don't derphammer.
It takes 8 to lynch, anyway, based on your count.
well yes, sp is missing also, it seems. besides the point, which is that you shouldn't derphammer me.
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Unofficial Vote Count:
silverspawn (6): ashersky, Witherweaver, skip wooznum, gkrieg13, e, mail-mi
ashersky (1): MarioManiac4
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
mail-mi (5): silverspawn, XerxesPraelor, Ghacob, chairs, hockeysemlan
Awaclus (1): faust
Not Voting (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
here is one with all of them
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vote: e obv scum.
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WHY IS NOBODY GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM ACTUALLY TRYING AND JUST SUCK AT THIS >:(
silverspawn or mail-mi?
Vote: Mail-mi
From this flip, we get info.
From silver's, we get none.
END OF FREAKING STORY.
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WHY IS NOBODY GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM ACTUALLY TRYING AND JUST SUCK AT THIS >:(
silverspawn or mail-mi?
Vote: Mail-mi
From this flip, we get info.
From silver's, we get none.
END OF FREAKING STORY.
Shouting isn't fun.
Vote: Mario
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rude
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Mario knows that we get no info from silver's flip, which means he knows silver is telling the truth, which means he's scum.
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rude
You were rude first.
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Why the hell would someone claim survivor?
"Hi i am cop, doc protect me!"
"TOWNIE X IS SCUM"
"omg i am insane cop!"
free mislynch alert!
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WHY IS NOBODY GOING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT I AM ACTUALLY TRYING AND JUST SUCK AT THIS >:(
silverspawn or mail-mi?
Vote: Mail-mi
From this flip, we get info.
From silver's, we get none.
END OF FREAKING STORY.
We don't have to decide between silverspawn and mail-mi. In fact, we most certainly should at least consider other options as well.
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To everyone:
I'm here.
You hardly ever see me contribute, this is your chance to ask questions and stuff.
Pedit: Oh, ok, i thought this was the site meta.
Back to this, still think he was trying to talk to a scumteam b or serial killer;
vote: ashersky
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Why the hell would someone claim survivor?
"Hi i am cop, doc protect me!"
"TOWNIE X IS SCUM"
"omg i am insane cop!"
free mislynch alert!
I'm pretty sure you are trying to say something with this. If only I knew what.
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Also, lynching a survivor is really not at all better than a no lynch. If a no lynch eventually leads to a 2-2-1 situation where the survivor votes for town, lynching the survivor leads to a 2-2 situation where town loses anyway.
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Also, lynching a survivor is really not at all better than a no lynch. If a no lynch eventually leads to a 2-2-1 situation where the survivor votes for town, lynching the survivor leads to a 2-2 situation where town loses anyway.
This is misleading though. If a no lynch leads to a 3-2-1 situation where the survivor refuses to vote for scum, it's a loss. Lynching the Survivor leads to 3-2, which is still winnable.
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Why the hell would someone claim survivor?
"Hi i am cop, doc protect me!"
"TOWNIE X IS SCUM"
"omg i am insane cop!"
free mislynch alert!
I'm pretty sure you are trying to say something with this. If only I knew what.
There are plenty of other options better than claiming survivor for scum.
Trying to think of one, I thought it would be easier to claim cop, guilty a townie and then plead insanity.
Claiming survivor would be a bad idea as from 1 to lylo we lynch the survivor to stop them screwing town.
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Also, lynching a survivor is really not at all better than a no lynch. If a no lynch eventually leads to a 2-2-1 situation where the survivor votes for town, lynching the survivor leads to a 2-2 situation where town loses anyway.
This is misleading though. If a no lynch leads to a 3-2-1 situation where the survivor refuses to vote for scum, it's a loss. Lynching the Survivor leads to 3-2, which is still winnable.
Yeah, but assuming we have one death every day and another death every night, it's the no lynch which leads to an even number of players.
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Also, lynching a survivor is really not at all better than a no lynch. If a no lynch eventually leads to a 2-2-1 situation where the survivor votes for town, lynching the survivor leads to a 2-2 situation where town loses anyway.
This is misleading though. If a no lynch leads to a 3-2-1 situation where the survivor refuses to vote for scum, it's a loss. Lynching the Survivor leads to 3-2, which is still winnable.
Yeah, but assuming we have one death every day and another death every night, it's the no lynch which leads to an even number of players.
You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
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vote: ashersky
I'll bite on mario's logic for the moment.
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CHAIRS IS TOWN
NOW EVERYONE ELSE SHEEP THIS
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You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
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You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
I like this logic. You've convinced me.
vote: silverspawn
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You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
a 'friend' of mine seriously advoated this logic a while ago. I assume you aren't serious, but if you are well lol
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vote: silverspawn
- Awacus was arguing why you shouldn't lynch me
- you were already voting for me
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You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
a 'friend' of mine seriously advoated this logic a while ago. I assume you aren't serious, but if you are well lol
So not lol if I was kidding? :'(
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You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
a 'friend' of mine seriously advoated this logic a while ago. I assume you aren't serious, but if you are well lol
So not lol if I was kidding? :'(
no... the joke brings back too many stupid memories
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post or perish
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Well, the reasoning is correct if you have no idea what those statements mean.
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Well, the reasoning is correct if you have no idea what those statements mean.
(I guess you also have to know that they are mutually exclusive and collectively exhaustive.)
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Well, the reasoning is correct if you have no idea what those statements mean.
To which reasoning are you referring?
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Well, the reasoning is correct if you have no idea what those statements mean.
To which reasoning are you referring?
This:
You do know how the setup was generated, right? How likely do you think this is a 1 lynch/1 kill game?
Well, there are two different possibilities:
- it is a 1 lynch/1 kill game
- it isn't
That means the odds are 50%.
Just to clarify, my comment was not intended to have any relevance to anything actually happening in the game.
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THREAD LOCKED
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Final Vote Count Day 1
Not Voting (2): Awaclus, Hydrad
faust (1): scott_pilgrim
silverspawn (5): ashersky, Witherweaver, skip wooznum, gkrieg13, 2.71828.....
mail-mi (4): silverspawn, Ghacob, XerxesPraelor, hockeysemlan
2.71828..... (1): mail-mi
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
ashersky (1): MarioManiac4, chairs
With 16 alive, it would have taken 9 to lynch.
Deadline has been reached. Nobody has been lynched. NIGHT 1 START! Day 2 will start in around 48 hours. Please get your night actions in as soon as you can.
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Last night, nobody died.
DAY 2 START
Vote Count 2.1
Not Voting (16): Awaclus, 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, mail-mi, scott_pilgrim, hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, faust, Witherweaver, silverspawn, MarioManiac4, chairs, gkrieg13, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 2 ends July 31, 12:00 AM (I don't want it going too late again).
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That's amazing
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So....I take it no one is a SK.
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I didn't do anything last night. Like I said, joat, and half my powers investigate dead people
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I also didn't do anything, since I'm a survivor without powers.
vote: mail-mi
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Vote: mail-mi
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So we're right back where we started, huh? Should we test out if we can do this again? Setting this game to an endless cycle of no lynch/no kill. Then we can finally stop worrying about winning and start to have fun!
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So we're right back where we started, huh? Should we test out if we can do this again? Setting this game to an endless cycle of no lynch/no kill. Then we can finally stop worrying about winning and start to have fun!
and no-one has to die.
wait, if there was a night without kills, maybe there is no mafia in this town? *_*
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So we're right back where we started, huh? Should we test out if we can do this again? Setting this game to an endless cycle of no lynch/no kill. Then we can finally stop worrying about winning and start to have fun!
and no-one has to die.
wait, if there was a night without kills, maybe there is no mafia in this town? *_*
that would be amazing. just town vs survivors and like jesters... ooo maybe a cult person also?
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So, here's my full analysis on the nokill.
1. The game is more than likely singeball, which means I was wrong about Ashersky. There still could be multiple scum factions, but it's highly unlikely.
2. We have a Doctor. Unlikely, since this is Random Mafia, but maybe it's part of some crazy role.
3. We have a Jailkeeper. In that case, we have little information. Unfortunately if this had some modifiers I could see it in Random Mafia.
4. We have a Bulletproof. In that case, ............
5. We have a roleblocker. The roleblocker should out IMMEDIATELY for a confirmed scum lynch.
6. We have a commuter, babysitter, or some other uncommon PR that can stop kills.
I will compose a full readlist soon.
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And I performed no active action tonight.
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vote: Mario
This is a solide one.
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Lynching me is a fucking terrible idea and you should be ashamed.
I always turn serious and try to crack shit up after N1.
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Awacius- Pretty sure this guy's town.
e- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
Ghacob- Mehhhhhhhhh.
Hydrad- Gutread leans scum.
mail-mi- Quite likely scum.
scott- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
hockey- Likes to bw and just voted for a player who has already stated that their role is powerful to town.
Xerxes- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
faust- I'm leaning scum on this guy.
Wither- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
silverspawn- Survivor.
MarioManiac4- Yeah, we should lynch this guy today! In all serious, I'm town and an important town. DO NOT LYNCH ME. I need at least another night.
chairs- Don't see any scum motivation for lying about being an IC.
gkrieg- Actually leaing scum.
skip- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
askersky- I now think he may be town and he vs awac may be TvT.
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Lynching me is a fucking terrible idea and you should be ashamed.
I always turn serious and try to crack shit up after N1.
Interesting reaction. Scum.
Ok, we need a lynch today so if no one found mario scummy but me i'll switch to mail-mi, but I think this a better choice. I don't want to claim why I'm so sure, but he is caught. Lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong..
(I'm not a cop though)
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Lynching me is a fucking terrible idea and you should be ashamed.
I always turn serious and try to crack shit up after N1.
Interesting reaction. Scum.
Ok, we need a lynch today so if no one found mario scummy but me i'll switch to mail-mi, but I think this a better choice. I don't want to claim why I'm so sure, but he is caught. Lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong..
(I'm not a cop though)
I'm caught? Really?
I have a power role and I'm not afraid to claim it.
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I'M HERE
LURKING IS FOR COWARDS
COME AT ME
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I KNOW THREE MEMBERS ARE READING THIS TOPIC
DON'T PRETEND YOU AREN'T HERE HOCKEYSEMIAN
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I'M HERE
LURKING IS FOR COWARDS
COME AT ME
Lol.
Alright, I'm a little bit silly being so sure- if it wasn't BM I wouldn't be, but I catched a lead on you yesterday. I would like to see if it's true.. people won't jump on it so you're not in danger enough to claim..
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I KNOW THREE MEMBERS ARE READING THIS TOPIC
DON'T PRETEND YOU AREN'T HERE HOCKEYSEMIAN
CAN I PLEASE BE ALLOWED TO WRITE SLOWLY ON MY PHONE MR SCUMMY SCUMSCUM??
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Well, tell us what the lead is then!
Go on!
Pedit: That slowly?
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I don't wanna.
vote: mail-mi
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So you think I'm scummy but won't say why?
vote: Hockeysemian
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oh this has gotten interesting.
and then...
I don't wanna.
vote: mail-mi
this doesn't make much sense for what you were just saying earlier
So do you think mario is scum or not.
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oh this has gotten interesting.
and then...
I don't wanna.
vote: mail-mi
this doesn't make much sense for what you were just saying earlier
So do you think mario is scum or not.
I was joking mostly. I have a tiny little reason to think Mario is scum, but it's not good enough for me to full-claim why I think so.. and I wouldn't convince enough of you to make the lynch happening anyaway. And we need a lynch. Since there is no plurality-lynch it's not very easy to pull through.
Basically: I screwed up. But I still found it interesting that Mario got so nervous over a vote..
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I was nervous?
I'm pretty sure I was checking out a possible scum.
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I for one find Mario scummy
vote: Mario
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I like how Mario's read list includes like two town reads out of 16 players...
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I mean, I could consider mario as a potential lynch - if there wasn't mail-mi! really, what is wrong with you town? let's lynch the claimed not-good-for-town player, and then we can argue whether or not a noob!readlist-with-lots-of-scum is more likely to come from scum or town.
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Awacius- Pretty sure this guy's town.
e- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
Ghacob- Mehhhhhhhhh.
Hydrad- Gutread leans scum.
mail-mi- Quite likely scum.
scott- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
hockey- Likes to bw and just voted for a player who has already stated that their role is powerful to town.
Xerxes- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
faust- I'm leaning scum on this guy.
Wither- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
silverspawn- Survivor.
MarioManiac4- Yeah, we should lynch this guy today! In all serious, I'm town and an important town. DO NOT LYNCH ME. I need at least another night.
chairs- Don't see any scum motivation for lying about being an IC.
gkrieg- Actually leaing scum.
skip- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
askersky- I now think he may be town and he vs awac may be TvT.
I should be 11th on this list, not 15th. I've had it up to here with this madness
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And mario seems towny to me, although this vastly less important
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I mean, I could consider mario as a potential lynch - if there wasn't mail-mi! really, what is wrong with you town? let's lynch the claimed not-good-for-town player, and then we can argue whether or not a noob!readlist-with-lots-of-scum is more likely to come from scum or town.
yeah, true, we should get a lynch through today
vote: mail mi
I should be 11th on this list, not 15th. I've had it up to here with this madness
+1
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
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Awacius- Pretty sure this guy's town.
e- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
Ghacob- Mehhhhhhhhh.
Hydrad- Gutread leans scum.
mail-mi- Quite likely scum.
scott- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
hockey- Likes to bw and just voted for a player who has already stated that their role is powerful to town.
Xerxes- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
faust- I'm leaning scum on this guy.
Wither- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
silverspawn- Survivor.
MarioManiac4- Yeah, we should lynch this guy today! In all serious, I'm town and an important town. DO NOT LYNCH ME. I need at least another night.
chairs- Don't see any scum motivation for lying about being an IC.
gkrieg- Actually leaing scum.
skip- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
askersky- I now think he may be town and he vs awac may be TvT.
Tl;dr: UHMYGAWD, EVERYONE IS TEH SCUM!
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
trying to lynch people with annoying playstyles is something I find annoying. Too bad I can't think of a good reason to lynch you
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
trying to lynch people with annoying playstyles is something I find annoying. Too bad I can't think of a good reason to lynch you
Well, it certainly beats voting for noone, which is what you are doing.
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
trying to lynch people with annoying playstyles is something I find annoying. Too bad I can't think of a good reason to lynch you
Well, it certainly beats voting for noone, which is what you are doing.
you're dodging the point
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vote: Mail-mi
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
trying to lynch people with annoying playstyles is something I find annoying. Too bad I can't think of a good reason to lynch you
Well, it certainly beats voting for noone, which is what you are doing.
you're dodging the point
Is that a good reason to lynch me?
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Mario's playstyle is annoying. I don't want to play with him.
Vote: Mario
trying to lynch people with annoying playstyles is something I find annoying. Too bad I can't think of a good reason to lynch you
Well, it certainly beats voting for noone, which is what you are doing.
you're dodging the point
Is that a good reason to lynch me?
no, I don't think so.
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vote: e
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vote: MarioManiac
I think the readlist gives him too many options for jumping on wagons.
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interesting exchange between faust and skip.
i think skip is townier because of it.
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Awacius- Pretty sure this guy's town.
e- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
Ghacob- Mehhhhhhhhh.
Hydrad- Gutread leans scum.
mail-mi- Quite likely scum.
scott- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
hockey- Likes to bw and just voted for a player who has already stated that their role is powerful to town.
Xerxes- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
faust- I'm leaning scum on this guy.
Wither- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
silverspawn- Survivor.
MarioManiac4- Yeah, we should lynch this guy today! In all serious, I'm town and an important town. DO NOT LYNCH ME. I need at least another night.
chairs- Don't see any scum motivation for lying about being an IC.
gkrieg- Actually leaing scum.
skip- Unreadable, which in itself is scummy.
askersky- I now think he may be town and he vs awac may be TvT.
Tl;dr: UHMYGAWD, EVERYONE IS TEH SCUM!
No, just noticing that a lot of people can be scum.
Right now I'm actually leaning town on all the unreadables.
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Vote: WW
Posting to post.
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vote: mail-mi
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vote: mail-mi
OHMYGOSHYOUSTORMINGSTINK.
vote: s_p
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vote: mail-mi
OHMYGOSHYOUSTORMINGSTINK.
vote: s_p
Why don't you defend yourself? The case against you is rather silly so odds are you can change our mind if you want to..
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The case is that we need to lynch people
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I don't want to lynch mail-mi. I may want to lynch people on the mail-mi wagon. Let's start with vote: scott and see where that gets us
The case is that we need to lynch people
that can't even loosely be defined as a case against mail-mi
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vote: mail-mi
OHMYGOSHYOUSTORMINGSTINK.
vote: s_p
Why don't you defend yourself? The case against you is rather silly so odds are you can change our mind if you want to..
how is the case 'silly'? he claimed a role that's bad for town, and didn't even take it back
everyone who doesn't vote for mail-mi is either scum or crazy.
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It's beyond me why this lynch hasn't gone through yet.
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vote: mail-mi
OHMYGOSHYOUSTORMINGSTINK.
vote: s_p
Why don't you defend yourself? The case against you is rather silly so odds are you can change our mind if you want to..
how is the case 'silly'? he claimed a role that's bad for town, and didn't even take it back
everyone who doesn't vote for mail-mi is either scum or crazy.
yours is also a role that's bad for town. Any reason im willing to accept for not lynching you would also apply to mail-mi if your case is he is unhelpful town.
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yours is also a role that's bad for town. Any reason im willing to accept for not lynching you would also apply to mail-mi if your case is he is unhelpful town.
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he is scum. I am survivor who plays as town.
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yours is also a role that's bad for town. Any reason im willing to accept for not lynching you would also apply to mail-mi if your case is he is unhelpful town.
he is scum. I am survivor who plays as town.
[/quote]if your case is that he scumclaimed on day 1, then I disagree. I have a nullish-town read on him and I didn't interpret that as a scumclaim.
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if your case is that he scumclaimed on day 1, then I disagree. I have a nullish-town read on him and I didn't interpret that as a scumclaim.
please, explain me how it's not a scum claim
and while you're at it, also explain me why, if it's not a scum claim, why mail-mi hasn't told me so.
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
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He was saying his town role isn't super important or amazing, in contrast with whoever else had just claimed the opposite for their own role.
He hasn't responded because he's clearly not taking this game seriously.
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Vote Count 2.2
Not Voting (4): Awaclus, Hydrad, Witherweaver, chairs
mail-mi (6): silverspawn, 2.71828....., hockeysemlan, Ghacob, gkrieg13, scott_pilgrim
hockeysemlan (1): MarioManiac4
MarioManiac (2): faust, XerxesPraelor
scott_pilgrim (2): mail-mi, skip wooznum
Witherweaver (1): ashersky
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 2 ends July 31, 12:00 AM.
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He was saying his town role isn't super important or amazing, in contrast with whoever else had just claimed the opposite for their own role.
he said lynching him wouldn't be bad for town. Lynching weak town players is bad for town.
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He was saying his town role isn't super important or amazing, in contrast with whoever else had just claimed the opposite for their own role.
he said lynching him wouldn't be bad for town. Lynching weak town players is bad for town.
he said it wouldn't be very bad for town
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He was saying his town role isn't super important or amazing, in contrast with whoever else had just claimed the opposite for their own role.
he said lynching him wouldn't be bad for town. Lynching weak town players is bad for town.
he said it wouldn't be very bad for town
yes but in a context which makes it rather clear that it would in fact not be bad
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
q.e.d
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
Also, see quote in my sig.
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
Also, see quote in my sig.
Also also, why would I answer this?
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
Also, see quote in my sig.
Also also, why would I answer this?
every town except joseph says he's town if he's town.
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Hey Mail-Mi are you scum?
;)
Also, see quote in my sig.
Also also, why would I answer this?
every town except joseph says he's town if he's town.
Interesting.
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vote: silverspawn
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vote: silverspawn
Don't you realize that's not gonna work? He's acting perfectly towny, we have no reason to Lynch him. Voting for a third party just distracts from finding scum.
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vote: silverspawn
Don't you realize that's not gonna work? He's acting perfectly towny, we have no reason to Lynch him. Voting for a third party just distracts from finding scum.
We have no reason to believe he's a third party. He's scum. I'm sure of it.
And if I'm wrong, oh well. All good.
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Not Voting (4): Awaclus, Hydrad, Witherweaver, chairs
These guys are all wrong in their voting. Everyone else is at worst meh, at best voting for mail-mi or silverspawn
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vote: mailspawn
e, does this please you?
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vote: mail-mi
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vote: mailspawn
e, does this please you?
Um...who are you voting for...?
I hope it's silverspawn
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Vote: Mario
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Vote: Mario
It's happening
vote: mario
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yeah, lynch me
that'll work brilliantly well
lynch a fucking important PR
vote: mail-mi
If I really need to I'll claim
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If I really need to I'll claim
you just did.
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If I really need to I'll claim
you just did.
meh
i mean fullclaim
pretty sure we have about 0 vanilla townies
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vote: mail-mi
HAHA SUCKERS!!!!!!
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Erm I mean OH DARN WOE IS ME.
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Jester?
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Jester?
Not quite. ;)
Mime. The only one, in fact.
vote: mail-mi
HAHA SUCKERS!!!!!!
Erm, don't mean to be offensive here to anyone, sorry if it was.
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That wasn't the lynch though, was it?
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what's a mime?
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That wasn't the lynch though, was it?
I don't know, I didn't count. Maybe he's hated in addition.
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what's a mime?
Dude, don't be lazy.
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Also, I think mail-mi might be scum anyway, because he should have known that it wasn't the lynch. But we should NK him with a town killing role instead of lynching him just to make sure.
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...according to the Wiki, the game ends with mail-mi's death. That would be a shame.
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That wasn't the lynch though, was it?
Whelp. I'm stupid. Hockey unvoted.
Ah well. Lynch Mario, and I'll just sit here alive and unwinning. *sigh*
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...according to the Wiki, the game ends with mail-mi's death. That would be a shame.
I wish. But unfortunately the lynch has failed, and I'll just sit here being alive, never to be lynched.
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If I really need to I'll claim
you just did.
meh
i mean fullclaim
pretty sure we have about 0 vanilla townies
We have at least one VT
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Welp darn I'm still alive. Let's lynch e.
vote: e
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okay, I did look it up. But... a single mime? I mean, I guess, since it's bastard
not sure
...according to the Wiki, the game ends with mail-mi's death. That would be a shame.
I wish. But unfortunately the lynch has failed, and I'll just sit here being alive, never to be lynched.
did you stage your 'lynching me wouldn't be bad for town' (which it totally would be if you are a mime) so that we would lynch you?
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I mean, if he really is a mime, he just failed at his only job, which is to self-vote at the correct time. is that really more likely than him staging it? and note also that it's literally the worst possible role that could exist for us to lynch.
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though, the problem is, even if we are like ~80% sure that it's staged, we still can't really lynch him, because 20% insta loss is probably too much.
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I... don't know what to do with mail-mi now. that didn't really seem faked. So we just have to leave him alive? what if hes scum that gambited?
if we blitz lynch him are we fine then if we have to?
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hah, I just realized that, if he's telling the truth and we lynch him, I win insta-win the game.
but no, I don't think we can do it... at least not yet. If he's still alive at LyLo, that's something else.
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Vote: Mail-mi
Try again.
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I... can't believe I'm doing this, but unvote
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Vote: silverspawn
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I... can't believe I'm doing this, but unvote
And there it is.
Can we lynch silver now?
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that should prove to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am serious about helping town.
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that should prove to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am serious about helping town.
No, it proves to us beyond the shadow of a doubt that you are not a survivor.
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that should prove to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am serious about helping town.
Only if you believe mail-mi's fake hammer attempt.
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that should prove to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am serious about helping town.
Only if you believe mail-mi's fake hammer attempt.
i don't believe it.
I think it's more likely that it's staged.
But - as I already said - town can't afford to lynch someone unless the chance that it's staged is very small. Not just < 50%, but like 10%, at most. If it's not staged, town insta loses.
I'd give it like... dunno, 1/3 chance? too much.
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that should prove to you beyond the shadow of a doubt that I am serious about helping town.
No, it proves to us beyond the shadow of a doubt that you are not a survivor.
hah, yeah, I mean, I didn't realize you could draw that conclusion, but I actually believe that you're thinking it.
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I... can't believe I'm doing this, but unvote
And there it is.
Can we lynch silver now?
that's like the most unfair thing anyone has ever done to me.
Or... okay, not quite. but it's close.
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So, ash single handedly did something which would cause town to lose instantly if mail-mi had come online before me.
sadly, that probably makes him town.
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vote: silverspawn not a survivor. If he was he'd have no fear of lynching me.
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vote: silverspawn not a survivor. If he was he'd have no fear of lynching me.
So true. So true.
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so we are lynching silverspawn now?
vote: silverspawn
I just really want to lynch people
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Yeah, mail-mi is lying.
vote: mail-mi
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I mean, I just defied my wincon in order to stay true to my promise. If you lynch me now, then at least it is 100% your fault for throwing the game. I couldn't possible have behaved more pro town.
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and it'd be satisfying to prove ash wrong.
I'm still obligated to tell you that voting for me now is nothing short of insane, but I wouldn't really mind...
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I mean, I just defied my wincon in order to stay true to my promise. If you lynch me now, then at least it is 100% your fault for throwing the game. I couldn't possible have behaved more pro town.
You're lying here. It's pretty obvious mail-mi was lying, so you took the opportunity. I'm actually feeling okay now about vote: silverspawn, but mail-mi should go first.
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Yeah, mail-mi is lying.
True, but he should be killed, not lynched regardless.
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There's nothing to say we have any killing roles.
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I mean, I just defied my wincon in order to stay true to my promise. If you lynch me now, then at least it is 100% your fault for throwing the game. I couldn't possible have behaved more pro town.
There is absolutely no reason at all to believe that you just defied your win con on purpose.
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is mail-mi at L-1?
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There's nothing to say we have any killing roles.
At least we should wait a day and see if anything happens during the night. It's more likely that silverspawn is scum anyway, so we should lynch him first.
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And at the very least, lynching silverspawn is not worse than a no lynch. Lynching mail-mi could be devastating.
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is mail-mi at L-1?
I think he's at L-2.
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Yeah, that makes sense.
vote: silverspawn
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I mean, I just defied my wincon in order to stay true to my promise. If you lynch me now, then at least it is 100% your fault for throwing the game. I couldn't possible have behaved more pro town.
There is absolutely no reason at all to believe that you just defied your win con on purpose.
I think the speccy of M61 (http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/fgrnMTbhYFN9b) shows very clearly that I would in fact do it.
but *shrugs* you'll see if you lynch me.
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Or, if the majority of town thinks mail-mi's claim is unlikely enough for the risk to be worth it, we can also lynch him.
I'd try to do a survey on it, but no-one else seems to be invested enough in the game to make such a rational approach work.
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can you imagine how cheap it would be for me not to be a survivor...
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or, well, if I was scum I guess what I did would be fine. yeah, the narrative does make sense.
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Vote Count 2.3
Not Voting (2): Witherweaver, silverspawn
mail-mi (6): Ghacob, gkrieg13, scott_pilgrim, chairs, MarioManiac4, ashersky
MarioManiac (3): faust, Hydrad, hockeysemlan
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
silverspawn (4): Awaclus, mail-mi, 2.71828....., XerxesPraelor
With 16 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.
Day 2 ends July 31, 12:00 AM.
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vote: silverspawn
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That was cool.
Vote: silverspawn
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lol
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you're gonna be in a for a depressing disappointment
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Just to remind everyone what is happening
day 1
- I claimed survivor and promised I'd help town even if it goes against my own wincon
day 2
- mail-mi claimed a role that wins the game if he gets lynched
- ash put him at L-1
- I prevented town from losing (assuming the claim was correct) by unvoting, thus proving that I stick to my promise
- you're lynching me for... not breaking my promise
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Well, yeah, but if you actually played to your wincon, you'd have hammered mail-mi for the guaranteed win, if you're actually a survivor. The people voting for you think it's more likely that you're lying about being a survivor than it is that you're telling the truth about playing for town (even against your own wincon). The game theory part of me wants to assume you're scum because why would you ever do that as a survivor, you had a free win and you passed it up. But the speccy from M61 is pretty convincing, that's what's holding me back.
You're right about mail-mi, it sucks because he's probably scum but if we're wrong we just insta-lose...which makes you a much better lynch, considering you're at best effectively a VT.
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sounds good.
lets lynch Awaclus
vote: Awaclus
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Well, yeah, but if you actually played to your wincon, you'd have hammered mail-mi for the guaranteed win, if you're actually a survivor. The people voting for you think it's more likely that you're lying about being a survivor than it is that you're telling the truth about playing for town (even against your own wincon).
I mean, I know that. I'm just pointing out how hilariously ungrateful it is from my perspective.
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- I prevented town from losing (assuming the claim was correct) by unvoting, thus proving that I stick to my promise
You also prevented scum from losing. The only thing it proves is that you're not playing towards a survivor win con, which makes it obvious that you don't have one.
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sounds good.
lets lynch Awaclus
vote: Awaclus
Why should we lynch the IC?
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- I prevented town from losing (assuming the claim was correct) by unvoting, thus proving that I stick to my promise
You also prevented scum from losing. The only thing it proves is that you're not playing towards a survivor win con, which makes it obvious that you don't have one.
even if I was scum, what I did was still pro town.
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vote: mail-mi.
I want to see a mime game.
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Vote: Silverspawn
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mhpf well since my promise still goes as long as I can post, here is what you should do after I flip
- lynch faust, he has a great chance to be scum. Like, 50% at least.
- don't lynch: chairs, Awaclus
- you can lynch ash for being hilariously anti town, but idk if he's scum
I'd also like someone to acknowledge that I've been pro town. it feels rather frustrating atm, and I won't be able to say I told you so after I'm dead, because then I'm dead.
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even if I was scum, what I did was still pro town.
Obviously doing anti-mime things is pro-everyone-except-mimes.
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as for mail-mi, the more I think about him the less likely it seems that he's telling the truth, but it might still be too likely to lynch him.
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If you want to be called pro-town, you never should have claimed Survivor.
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If you want to be called pro-town, you never should have claimed Survivor.
frustration vote: ash
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Ummmmm, I believe ss that he's a survivor. I sorta always did. His play from the beginning of the game really fits a survivor narrative much better. I didn't believe he would play to non-survivor wincon, which he has proven he will do. I dont really want to lynch him.
I obviously don't want to lynch mail-mi.
Where does that leave me? ss, could you explain the case against faust?
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Ummmmm, I believe ss that he's a survivor. I sorta always did. His play from the beginning of the game really fits a survivor narrative much better. I didn't believe he would play to non-survivor wincon, which he has proven he will do.
Playing to a non-survivor win con does not fit a survivor narrative at all.
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Where does that leave me? ss, could you explain the case against faust?
There's a case against me? Sweet.
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Ummmmm, I believe ss that he's a survivor. I sorta always did. His play from the beginning of the game really fits a survivor narrative much better. I didn't believe he would play to non-survivor wincon, which he has proven he will do.
Playing to a non-survivor win con does not fit a survivor narrative at all.
+1
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- lynch faust, he has a great chance to be scum. Like, 50% at least.
That's a bold claim, given that you have no idea whether there's even any scum in the game.
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woo, didn't know anything about mimes before.. that's sick..
I'm fine with silver
vote: silver
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worst comes to worst, we lynch a survivor, right?
vote: ss
L-1
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vote: silverspawn
I like hammering.
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well, remember what I said. lynch faust.
also, you're all insane.
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also, you're all insane.
If you're telling the truth, you're insane.
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well, remember what I said. lynch faust.
also, you're all insane.
Nope, my role definitely does not include the Insane modifier
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THREAD LOCKED
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Final Day 2 Vote Count
mail-mi (4): scott_pilgrim, chairs, MarioManiac4, ashersky
MarioManiac (1): Hydrad
scott_pilgrim (1): skip wooznum
silverspawn (9): Awaclus, mail-mi, XerxesPraelor, gkireg13, faust, Witherweaver, hockeysemlan, Ghacob, 2.71828.....
ashersky (1): silverspawn
With 16 alive, it took 9 to lynch.
Silverspawn has been lynched. He was 125762588143469, the Survivor.
NIGHT 2 START! Please get your night actions in in 48 hours.
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Last night, nobody died.
DAY 3 START
Vote Count 3.1
Not Voting (14): Awaclus, 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, mail-mi, scott_pilgrim, hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, faust, Witherweaver, MarioManiac4, gkrieg13, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
Day 3 ends August 5th, 9:00 AM.
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Again.
vote: e
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Again.
vote: e
Yep, I don't care. We lynch e and get some action.
And by the way mario, I don't suspect you anymore.
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Forgot the vote:
vote: e
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Time for a claim.
There's nothing to say we have any killing roles.
We actually do have a killing role: I'm vengeful and suicidal (I commit suicide N4). This means that we can lynch me, and then I can kill mail-mi, which is basically as good as just lynching mail-mi because I'm going to die anyway. Except that it should be safe.
i.e. if you would vote for mail-mi, vote for me instead.
I also have other stuff to claim before I die, but I don't want to claim it yet.
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vote: Awaclus
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vote: awaclus
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
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Vote: Awaclus
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
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I also have other stuff to claim before I die, but I don't want to claim it yet.
Actually scratch this, you'll see it from my flip anyway.
Vote: Awaclus
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vote: awalcus
Too bad you're suicidal.
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
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Perhaps the only non-town around is some scum faction that can't kill at night.
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Awalcus, do you happen to be Ascetic?
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Perhaps the only non-town around is some scum faction that can't kill at night.
Cultists is my guess
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Awaclus, does your vengful also trigger when you commit suicide? And why don't you want to ive another day?
Something smells fishy.
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
Awalcus, do you happen to be Ascetic?
If I don't get lynched today, I don't think I want to tell scum exactly what it is, but if you have a reason to believe that I'm Ascetic, I can confirm that it might be because of my role (since scum could probably figure that much out anyway).
Awaclus, does your vengful also trigger when you commit suicide? And why don't you want to ive another day?
Something smells fishy.
It triggers only when I'm lynched.
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vote: Awaclus
also I investigated ss last night and he was a survivor...
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
what information would we have from mail-mi's flip?
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vote: Awaclus
also I investigated ss last night and he was a survivor...
you mean tge night after he died?
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vote: Awaclus
also I investigated ss last night and he was a survivor...
you mean tge night after he died?
yes
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Vote: Awaclus
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vote: Awaclus
also I investigated ss last night and he was a survivor...
you mean tge night after he died?
yes
This is BM afterall
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Vote: Awaclus
I think that's L-1
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
what information would we have from mail-mi's flip?
You would know his alignment, and if he's scum, that makes finding the other scum a lot easier.
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vote: Awaclus
also I investigated ss last night and he was a survivor...
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/816/782/cce.jpg)
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
what information would we have from mail-mi's flip?
You would know his alignment, and if he's scum, that makes finding the other scum a lot easier.
how so?
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
what information would we have from mail-mi's flip?
You would know his alignment, and if he's scum, that makes finding the other scum a lot easier.
how so?
don't mean to be difficult, it's just, based on his claim, I don't see what information his flip provides.
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Wait, why today and not tomorrow?
Why not?
wouldn't you want to stay alive for an extra day of scumhunting/ playing out the unclaimed part of your role/ making sure town does nothing stupid?
Well, either way, both me and mail-mi would be dead D5. If we lynch me now, you enter D4 with mail-mi's flip. Otherwise, we enter D4 with me alive. So basically the question is, which one is more valuable: me or mail-mi's flip? I think it's mail-mi's flip.
what information would we have from mail-mi's flip?
You would know his alignment, and if he's scum, that makes finding the other scum a lot easier.
how so?
Well, you could already start trying to find his scumbuddies, but that might turn out to be not super good if he really is a mime (and the only one).
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Let me rephrase this.
What would you imagine are the differences among: 1) a townie's reaction to a mime claim, 2) scum's reaction to a mime claim, and 3) scum's reaction to a partner's fakeclaiming mime?
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vote: awaclus
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Huh?
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Huh?
;)
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Let me rephrase this.
What would you imagine are the differences among: 1) a townie's reaction to a mime claim, 2) scum's reaction to a mime claim, and 3) scum's reaction to a partner's fakeclaiming mime?
I think what happened before the mime claim is more important, but partners have to choose between pretending to believe the claim and bussing, which affects things.
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Pushing him to L-2 originally might have been something that scum originally planned out beforehand.
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Let me rephrase this.
What would you imagine are the differences among: 1) a townie's reaction to a mime claim, 2) scum's reaction to a mime claim, and 3) scum's reaction to a partner's fakeclaiming mime?
I think what happened before the mime claim is more important, but partners have to choose between pretending to believe the claim and bussing, which affects things.
you wouldn't happen to know why mail-mi hammered you, would you?
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Let me rephrase this.
What would you imagine are the differences among: 1) a townie's reaction to a mime claim, 2) scum's reaction to a mime claim, and 3) scum's reaction to a partner's fakeclaiming mime?
I think what happened before the mime claim is more important, but partners have to choose between pretending to believe the claim and bussing, which affects things.
you wouldn't happen to know why mail-mi hammered you, would you?
No. I think he's trying to WIFOM me or something.
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Let me rephrase this.
What would you imagine are the differences among: 1) a townie's reaction to a mime claim, 2) scum's reaction to a mime claim, and 3) scum's reaction to a partner's fakeclaiming mime?
I think what happened before the mime claim is more important, but partners have to choose between pretending to believe the claim and bussing, which affects things.
you wouldn't happen to know why mail-mi hammered you, would you?
No. I think he's trying to WIFOM me or something.
What, me? Nooooo. ::)
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THREAD LOCKED
Vote count and flip will be up at some point.
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Final Day 3 Vote Count
Not Voting (5): 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, Witherweaver, MarioManiac4
2.71828..... (1): hockeysemlan
Awaclus (8): scott_pilgrim, skip wooznum, ashersky, Awaclus, XerxesPraelor, gkrieg13, faust, mail-mi
With 14 alive, it took 8 to lynch.
Awaclus has been lynched. He was 4, a town-aligned Suicidal Vengeful Reflexive Normalizer. He tried to vengekill but nothing happened.
Night 3 start! Because I'll probably not have access Thursday morning, Day 4 will start in around 36 hours unless everybody wants a way longer night.
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Last night...
nobody died.
DAY 4 START
Vote Count 4.1
Not Voting (14): chairs, 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, mail-mi, scott_pilgrim, hockeysemlan, XerxesPraelor, faust, Witherweaver, MarioManiac4, gkrieg13, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
Day 3 ends August 7th, 12:00 AM.
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Last night...
nobody died.
:(
Why is this game so hard. Scum can you guys please just kill mail-mi so we don't have to think about him any more?
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What is this nonsense? Is there a role somewhere that completely can nullify kills? I don't think we have a mafia in this game, but why didn't Awa go through?
vote: e
All big claims must die.
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I call Deathproof Lightning Rod.
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Fun fact: After this Day, there will be two nights.
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So we probably shouldn't lynch the Lightning Rod (if applicable) yet.
Vote: No Lynch
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Fun fact: After this Day, there will be two nights.
How so? Because we manage to kill e?
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Fun fact: After this Day, there will be two nights.
How so? Because we manage to kill e?
Because I'm Suicidal and Beloved.
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In fact, for kicks and giggles, let me claim my whole role: I'm a Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
Naturally, there is no other Neighbor.
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In fact, for kicks and giggles, let me claim my whole role: I'm a Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
Naturally, there is no other Neighbor.
How could I get such a normal role if this exist?
But ninja? Then you're high-likely scum-aligned?
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In fact, for kicks and giggles, let me claim my whole role: I'm a Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
Naturally, there is no other Neighbor.
vote:faust
i highly doubt both our roles are in this game.
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I am a Bulletproof Beloved Princess.
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In fact, for kicks and giggles, let me claim my whole role: I'm a Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
Naturally, there is no other Neighbor.
vote:faust
i highly doubt both our roles are in this game.
sheepilelisheep
vote: faust
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You guys do know that this is RANDOM mafia, right?
Saying stuff like "I highly doubt both our roles are in the game" makes zero sense. It's RANDOM. Every role has the same probability of being in the game.
Voting for me makes no sense. I'll die tonight. If I don't, you can always lynch me tomorrow.
Vote: hockeysemlan
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You guys do know that this is RANDOM mafia, right?
Saying stuff like "I highly doubt both our roles are in the game" makes zero sense. It's RANDOM. Every role has the same probability of being in the game.
Voting for me makes no sense. I'll die tonight. If I don't, you can always lynch me tomorrow.
Vote: hockeysemlan
Alright, my vote was not necessary, I see that, but your claim is überweird and I wanted to express that.
unvote
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Well, my 1-shot Loyal Ninja does nothing. I guess if a role like inventor targetted me so I could get an active action, then I could use the 1-shot, but that's a long (one-)shot.
Roles do not have to make sense. At least, I find my role very entertaining (though I didn't talk to myself nearly as much as I intended to).
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Well, my 1-shot Loyal Ninja does nothing. I guess if a role like inventor targetted me so I could get an active action, then I could use the 1-shot, but that's a long (one-)shot.
Roles do not have to make sense. At least, I find my role very entertaining (though I didn't talk to myself nearly as much as I intended to).
Mkey. It makes sense that random roles shouldn't makes sense after all. I'm just jelly since I'm so perfectly normal...
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I just see two Beloved modifiers as completely and utterly unfair. Then again, I have a feeling the antitowns are all survivors, so unvote.
Oh, and the Bulletproof Beloved Princess was a gambit, that's not my exact role, although it's close.
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Vote: Mario
Lynch all liars.
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I just see two Beloved modifiers as completely and utterly unfair. Then again, I have a feeling the antitowns are all survivors, so unvote.
Oh, and the Bulletproof Beloved Princess was a gambit, that's not my exact role, although it's close.
That can't be true; there would be no threats to the town and we would win. There has to be a scum faction.
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Vote: Mario
Lynch all liars.
Vote: Mario
FYI, I asked, and multiple Beloved modifiers would stack, i.e. leading to three consecutive nights.
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Vote: Mario
Lynch all liars.
Vote: Mario
FYI, I asked, and multiple Beloved modifiers would stack, i.e. leading to three consecutive nights.
If they go like all previous nights, it wouldn't matter.
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So I investigated awaclus last night and he was the town aligned multiple user personality. But that's not what he died as...
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So I investigated awaclus last night and he was the town aligned multiple user personality. But that's not what he died as...
Um, want to claim your role?
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So I investigated awaclus last night and he was the town aligned multiple user personality. But that's not what he died as...
Um, want to claim your role?
I'm the town aligned coroner
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So I investigated awaclus last night and he was the town aligned multiple user personality. But that's not what he died as...
Um, want to claim your role?
I'm the town aligned coroner
But you've been getting different results? So no universal lightning rod?
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Actually can you summarize your results?
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I investigated silver after he died and got survivor, which was correct. I investigated Awa last night and got town aligned multiple user personality. Which he wasn't.
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I'm beloved vengeful suicidal ascetic, which is why I was thinking Awaclus might be the same because of some role.
vote: Faust because he's caught in a fakeclaim.
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Interesting. "Muliple User Personality" is my role. I'm basically a JOAT with no choice over which of my abilities gets used. Unfortunately, it seems I'm also not informed which one is used, so I have to infer it based on results. One of my possible roles is "lightning rod".
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Interesting. "Muliple User Personality" is my role. I'm basically a JOAT with no choice over which of my abilities gets used. Unfortunately, it seems I'm also not informed which one is used, so I have to infer it based on results. One of my possible roles is "lightning rod".
Do you know the list of possible roles?
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I'm beloved vengeful suicidal ascetic, which is why I was thinking Awaclus might be the same because of some role.
vote: Faust because he's caught in a fakeclaim.
I don't follow.
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Interesting. "Muliple User Personality" is my role. I'm basically a JOAT with no choice over which of my abilities gets used. Unfortunately, it seems I'm also not informed which one is used, so I have to infer it based on results. One of my possible roles is "lightning rod".
Do you know the list of possible roles?
Yes.
Lightning Rod, IC, Tree Stump, and Enabler. The enabler is particularly weird as the requirement to be enabled only happens to SKs and only while I am an Enabler.
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Ha. But, uh.. maybe no kills were partially a result of Lightning Rod and a Doctor?
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Oh, all of those are listed as 1-shot, so presumably we've already burned three of them and I should be IC tomorrow assuming I don't die.
Also, I've been considering what kind of scum would end up with all these no kills, and... do you think we have an arsonist?
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Oh, all of those are listed as 1-shot, so presumably we've already burned three of them and I should be IC tomorrow assuming I don't die.
Also, I've been considering what kind of scum would end up with all these no kills, and... do you think we have an arsonist?
Shouldn't someone be stumped then? Isn't that usually announced?
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Ha. But, uh.. maybe no kills were partially a result of Lightning Rod and a Doctor?
It's possible. It's not entirely clear how long my roles last - tree stump appears to have been just for the following Day, for example, since I show up in vote counts again.
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Oh, all of those are listed as 1-shot, so presumably we've already burned three of them and I should be IC tomorrow assuming I don't die.
Also, I've been considering what kind of scum would end up with all these no kills, and... do you think we have an arsonist?
Shouldn't someone be stumped then? Isn't that usually announced?
Arsonists don't stump people, or at least the role I'm thinking of doesn't. They prime people to be NK'd, and then light off the "bomb" to NK a bunch of people at once.
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Ha. But, uh.. maybe no kills were partially a result of Lightning Rod and a Doctor?
It's possible. It's not entirely clear how long my roles last - tree stump appears to have been just for the following Day, for example, since I show up in vote counts again.
Oh, you're the tree stump. I thought you did it to someone else. Were you missing from the vote counts one day?
PPE: I was talking about your role.
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Ha. But, uh.. maybe no kills were partially a result of Lightning Rod and a Doctor?
It's possible. It's not entirely clear how long my roles last - tree stump appears to have been just for the following Day, for example, since I show up in vote counts again.
Oh, you're the tree stump. I thought you did it to someone else. Were you missing from the vote counts one day?
PPE: I was talking about your role.
Check D3.
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So they should be tricking us into thinking there is no scum so that they can prime a bunch of us and then light the bomb much later.
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You mean like this guy?
I just see two Beloved modifiers as completely and utterly unfair. Then again, I have a feeling the antitowns are all survivors, so unvote.
Oh, and the Bulletproof Beloved Princess was a gambit, that's not my exact role, although it's close.
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You mean like this guy?
I just see two Beloved modifiers as completely and utterly unfair. Then again, I have a feeling the antitowns are all survivors, so unvote.
Oh, and the Bulletproof Beloved Princess was a gambit, that's not my exact role, although it's close.
Good enough for vote: mario
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Is there such a role as a survivor that cannot win with town? Or maybe the scumteam are all traitors?
And the role I claimed is so similar to my real role the gambit didn't really matter.
Pedit: So I'm scum because I was weirded out by the lack of kills?
Pedit 2: Am I getting lynched right now? Because if I am that's ridiculous and could give any scum the game.
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How does it give scum the game? There have been zero kills. We are in great shape.
Don't ever write pedit again. So many bad things related to that.
We use PPE here.
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If there's an arsonist, then giving them an extra night will not help matters.
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oh interesting i hadn't even thought of something like an arsonist. There are so many roles that I wasn't aware of before.
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PPE > "pedit" which for some reason makes me think of paedophile.
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PPE > "pedit" which for some reason makes me think of paedophile.
i know :)
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vote: chairs
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I'm beloved vengeful suicidal ascetic, which is why I was thinking Awaclus might be the same because of some role.
vote: Faust because he's caught in a fakeclaim.
::)
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vote: chairs
vote: mail-mi because I think you're trying to fake us out with the mime claim when you're really an arsonist.
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I'm beloved vengeful suicidal ascetic, which is why I was thinking Awaclus might be the same because of some role.
vote: Faust because he's caught in a fakeclaim.
::)
Chairs ruins everything.
unvote
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I DON'T GET THIS GAME!!!
YOU'RE ALL CULTISTS!!
*slams door*
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I'm beloved vengeful suicidal ascetic, which is why I was thinking Awaclus might be the same because of some role.
vote: Faust because he's caught in a fakeclaim.
::)
Chairs ruins everything.
unvote
...what?
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Not intended to be taken at face value - I just meant that your claim meant we couldn't have a found scum for sure.
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Sorry about phrasing it that way. I thought it would be obviously sarcasm.
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@xp, could you explain, from beginning to end, what it is you've been talking about all day?
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Vote Count 4.2
Not Voting (9): 2.71828....., Ghacob, Hydrad, scott_pilgrim, Witherweaver, skip wooznum, hockeysemlan, MarioManiac4, XerxesPraelor
MarioManiac4 (3): ashersky, faust, gkrieg13
chairs (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (1): chairs
With 14 alive, it takes 8 to lynch.
Day 3 ends August 7th, 12:00 AM.
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vote: Mario
Please stop
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Please note, I'm gone this weekend, so it may be a bad idea to lynch during the weekend. You can do whatever you want still.
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@xp, could you explain, from beginning to end, what it is you've been talking about all day?
Faust said he was a Lightning Rod.
Someone rolecopped someone and got a non-lightning rod result.
This was a contradiction, so I thought we had caught scum.
Chairs said he had a temporary lightning rod with the role that was copped. That explained the anomaly.
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Faust called (not claimed) lightning rod.
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I believe you're referring to this
I call Deathproof Lightning Rod.
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Oh, I thought that was a typo. How do you call a power role?
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Oh, I thought that was a typo. How do you call a power role?
I think he used it as "predict"
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I see. Anyway, can we lynch me so I can vengeful mail-mi?
vote: XP
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Man, so many things to keep track of. But I think I get it now. For some reason I was also under the impression that there were multiple Lightning Rods, but it looks like (at least from the claims so far) it's just chairs's 1-shot thing he had no control over. So that still doesn't explain the lack of kills on other nights. But it does explain the weird investigative result and basically confirms chairs's role I guess, which will happen tomorrow anyway. Cultists and/or arsonists are still reasonable explanations for the lack of kills. Did sudgy explain how alignments/factional abilities were chosen? Did he just do it afterwards based on what made sense to him?
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Oh wait, so Awaclus also failed because of the Lightning Rod I guess? So that means it's reasonable to try it again now?
vote: XP
If anyone is a lightning rod they should probably claim it before we waste another vengeful lynch.
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This would be the best set-up ever to be a Jester in, there's so many ways you can convince people to lynch you.
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If anyone is a lightning rod they should probably claim it before we waste another vengeful lynch.
Wait maybe not, I'd have to think about it more. If anyone is a Lightning Rod, they should figure out whether it makes sense for them to claim today.
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vote: xp
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What if there are two lightning rods in the game? Everything targets both?
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Oh wait, so Awaclus also failed because of the Lightning Rod I guess? So that means it's reasonable to try it again now?
vote: XP
If anyone is a lightning rod they should probably claim it before we waste another vengeful lynch.
but if awa hit the LR (can we call it that plz) why wouldn't the LR die? Some sort of day doc?
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What if there are two lightning rods in the game? Everything targets both?
Probably not, since the coroner (sorry forgot who it was) got only one result. Actually, we should ask sudgy (who is now gone I think). Because if that is the case, then we know we don't have another lightning rod (at least not a permanent one).
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Oh wait, so Awaclus also failed because of the Lightning Rod I guess? So that means it's reasonable to try it again now?
vote: XP
If anyone is a lightning rod they should probably claim it before we waste another vengeful lynch.
but if awa hit the LR (can we call it that plz) why wouldn't the LR die? Some sort of day doc?
Wait, how does vengeful work? I assumed it happened at night. Probably there's at least one protective role in the game, especially considering that there haven't been any night kills.
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I call V/LA
but really. My availability is crap. Not really V/LA at all. Just work. With limited access.
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vote:xp
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vote: xp
VK mario, though.
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vote: xp
VK mario, though.
+1
vote: xp
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Due to my results, we have no permanent lightning rod.
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vote: xp
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greik only proves that on day 3/night 3 chairs was the only acrivated LR, there could have been others at other points. Otherwise we'd have to explain no kills on N1 and N2. Did docs guess right both times?
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vote: xp
VK mario, though.
yeah do this
have we hammered yet?
oh well
vote: XP
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Please note, I'm gone this weekend, so it may be a bad idea to lynch during the weekend. You can do whatever you want still.
gonna be a long twilight though
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vote: xp
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vote: xp
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vote: xp
every time he does this I get scared we're lynching his partner in mime
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Do we have enough votes yet?
Vote: XP
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vote: xp
every time he does this I get scared we're lynching his partner in mime
;)
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THREAD LOCKED
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Final Day 4 Vote Count
Not Voting (3): 2.71828....., Hydrad, Witherweaver
MarioManiac4 (1): faust
chairs (1): mail-mi
mail-mi (1): chairs
XerxesPraelor (8): XerxesPraelor, scott_pilgrim, skip wooznum, MarioManiac4, ashersky, hockeysemlan, gkrieg13, Ghacob
With 14 alive, it took 8 to lynch.
XerxesPraelor has been lynched. He was a mafia-aligned FALSE Beloved Suicidal Vengeful Ascetic Compulsive Mafia Goon.
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Night 4 start! It will be a loooooong night. It will probably be over later on Monday.
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scott_pilgrim has died. He was REDACTED.
Ghacob has died. He was a town-aligned Suicidal 63% Poison Doctor.
faust has died. He was a town-aligned Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
Day 5 has been skipped. NIGHT 5 START! It will be over in about 50 hours. Please get your night actions in.
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gkrieg13 has died. He was REDACTED.
chairs is an Innocent Child.
DAY 6 START!
Vote Count 6.1
Not Voting (9): chairs, 2.71828....., Hydrad, mail-mi, hockeysemlan, Witherweaver, MarioManiac4, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.
Day 6 ends August 14th, 12:00 AM.
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Chairs im curious how your whole...... thing works. Is it that for Day1/night1, you're A, then you stop being A at end of N1 and you're B till end of N2?
If so, could you list, to the best of your knowledge, what you've been each day so far?
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vote: chairs
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Chairs im curious how your whole...... thing works. Is it that for Day1/night1, you're A, then you stop being A at end of N1 and you're B till end of N2?
If so, could you list, to the best of your knowledge, what you've been each day so far?
I think this is true. I do not get told what I am, and can only infer from the results. I think I've been a lightning rod, an sk enabler, and a tree stump. Obviously today I'm an IC.
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Chairs im curious how your whole...... thing works. Is it that for Day1/night1, you're A, then you stop being A at end of N1 and you're B till end of N2?
If so, could you list, to the best of your knowledge, what you've been each day so far?
I think this is true. I do not get told what I am, and can only infer from the results. I think I've been a lightning rod, an sk enabler, and a tree stump. Obviously today I'm an IC.
ok, so, unless im mistaken, you shouldn't have become an ic any later than day 4, cuz you only had 4 powers, right? And based on gkrieg's results, you were a lightning rod day 3, but acc to the vote count you were tree stump day 3, so how are you two things at once?
would lying about an IC be within the generally accepted behavior of bastard mods?
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Chairs im curious how your whole...... thing works. Is it that for Day1/night1, you're A, then you stop being A at end of N1 and you're B till end of N2?
If so, could you list, to the best of your knowledge, what you've been each day so far?
would lying about an IC be within the generally accepted behavior of bastard mods?
Not here. Ordinary rules apply.
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Ah. quote fail..
By the way, Mario. If you're role is so big and important to Town. How come scum didn't kill you off by now? Seems a little.. strange, huh?
vote: mario
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And grammar fail too.. ugh. it's morning here <_>
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Ah. quote fail..
By the way, Mario. If you're role is so big and important to Town. How come scum didn't kill you off by now? Seems a little.. strange, huh?
vote: mario
maybe scum!you didn't kill him so could get him mislynched. vote: hock
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would lying about an IC be within the generally accepted behavior of bastard mods?
If the role called for it, I would maybe lie about an IC.
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would lying about an IC be within the generally accepted behavior of bastard mods?
If the role called for it, I would maybe lie about an IC.
would you be able to give an example of a role that called for it?
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would lying about an IC be within the generally accepted behavior of bastard mods?
If the role called for it, I would maybe lie about an IC.
would you be able to give an example of a role that called for it?
Giving an example might show what types of roles are in the game, because those are the ones on my mind and I might give an example close to a real role.
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off the top of my head, I think we've seen "false" roles in this game, so "False Innocent Child" might do it.
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nvm Mafiascum says that's not what false roles do.
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It's possible that my PM is lying, given there is a role modifier of "Hidden".
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Vote: Mario because why not.
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vote: chairs
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Very rare access until the 22nd or so. Just don't kill me. I am not really useful, but can help some
Scott pilgrim was a town aligned nexus, by the way
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Or it actually just helps scum (killing me, that is)
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Do you know what gkrieg was?
Can you elaborate the vote on chairs?
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Can anybody voting me explain why you're voting for an IC?
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Can anybody voting me explain why you're voting for an IC?
Because I Don't know any better?
I could always vote: witherweaver
He is totally scum
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I'm an IC.
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But I thought chairs was ic?
I don't know what is happenstance.
That was supposed to say happening, but Autocorrect was awesome so I left it
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Also, I have less access than ever. Doubtful I will post in the next several days
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OK. I am going to explain myself here and now. Hear me out.
I HAVE A FORM OF DEATH IMMUNITY AND THE BELOVED MODIFIER.
The reason I claimed Bulletproof was to gambit around the immunity. My claim of a big and powerful role was to USE the immunity.
The rest of my play can be easily explained away by the fact I'm just kind of an idiot. :P
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Who are we lynching?
vote: mario
Death immunity sounds like SK or something.
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Except it isn't. I'm not sure why you want to lynch a player with the Beloved modifier. ???
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Witherwear. It's DAY 6. Why not reveal if you are an IC? Because otherwise I may vote you for lying about your role in a way that could not benefit Town.
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It's random; why would death immunity be any more likely on an SK?
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I am down with lynching a death immunity guy
Vote: mario
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I am down with lynching a death immunity guy
Vote: mario
Good call.
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The reason I claimed Bulletproof was to gambit around the immunity.
this implies that your imunity isnt bulletproof.
My claim of a big and powerful role was to USE the immunity.
this implies that ypur immunity is bulletproof.
vote: mario
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Lynch lynch lyncharoo
Vote: Mario
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vote: mario
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Actually, I was a Non-Consecutive Deathproof Beloved Princess.
Congrats to scum on their win. :)
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What does that even mean?
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Each night, I could activate my deathproof. That would make me bulletproof for that night and unlynchable the next day.
I activated on Night 2 and Night 4. Therefore I am not unlynchable today, I'm dying, and you'll have two night phases.
I take that last bit as very high odds of a scum victory.
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(And I couldn't activate two nights in a row.)K
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Unvote
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Who's scum then?
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unvote
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THREAD LOCKED
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Final Day 6 Vote Count
Not Voting (2): chairs, Hydrad, mail-mi
chairs (1): mail-mi
MarioManiac4 (4): hockeysemlan, Witherweaver, ahsersky, 2.71828....., skip wooznum
hockeysemlan (1): MarioManiac4
With 9 alive, it took 5 to lynch.
MarioManiac4 has been lynched. He was music soil, the town-aligned Non-Consecutive Deathproof Beloved Princess.
NIGHT 6 START! It will end in 48 hours.
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Nobody died.
chairs is no longer an Innocent Child.
Day 7 has been skipped. NIGHT 7 START! It will be over in 48 hours. Please submit your night actions.
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Witherweaver has been killed. He was a town-aligned Vengeful Loved Delayed 45% Voyeur.
DAY 8 START!
Vote Count 8.1
Not Voting (7): chairs, 2.71828....., Hydrad, mail-mi, hockeysemlan, skip wooznum, ashersky
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 8 ends August 22nd, 3:00 PM.
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@e, how did you know scott's role?
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Vote: 2.7
Gut read.
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Vote: 2.7
Gut read.
ash this is a big game so there are potentially 3 scum alive right now and they can pull an extended quickhammer if that's the case so nobody vote until they're sure, yes?
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and i'm still alive.
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Vote: 2.7
Gut read.
ash this is a big game so there are potentially 3 scum alive right now and they can pull an extended quickhammer if that's the case so nobody vote until they're sure, yes?
I highly doubt they could pull that off.
Town points for naïveté though.
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i've never played a game to day 8 i think. although i guess half of the days are gone because of random double night stuff.
also what kind of role is an IC for a day and then loses IC? I don't see the point of the losing IC part.
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i've never played a game to day 8 i think. although i guess half of the days are gone because of random double night stuff.
also what kind of role is an IC for a day and then loses IC? I don't see the point of the losing IC part.
It's Bastard, I gave up on logic back on D1.
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I used a shot of my joat to figure it out. I also targeted him to see who all had targeted him.
I have [to learn his role], gkrieg did, and ashersky did.
There fore
Vote: ashersky
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and i'm still alive.
So you are scum?
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i've never played a game to day 8 i think. although i guess half of the days are gone because of random double night stuff.
also what kind of role is an IC for a day and then loses IC? I don't see the point of the losing IC part.
Alignment change is a thing.
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and i'm still alive.
So you are scum?
If I answered that honestly you guys would lynch me. If I answered that dishonestly you guys would lynch me. So I will decline answering that.
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Must be town then. Vote for ashersky!
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I used a shot of my joat to figure it out. I also targeted him to see who all had targeted him.
I have [to learn his role], gkrieg did, and ashersky did.
There fore
Vote: ashersky
I don't understand any of this. Could you please try explaining again?
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I am a 1 shot forsenic investigator. I investigated s_p because he was nked and didn't have anything that would make it be the result of anything except a direct targeting from scum.
The only people other than myself that targeted s_p we're gkrieg and ashersky. Gkrieg is dead and of ambiguous alignment and role, and I think ashersky makes sense as scum
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I guess ash could be 3rd party, whatever. But I think he has a killing power, and I think he is scum
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And I previously used coroner on him to get his role
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didn't have anything that would make it be the result of anything except a direct targeting from scum.
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didn't have anything that would make it be the result of anything except a direct targeting from scum.
Dont get how you know this
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But anyway, barring fancy bus-driverry stuff, or something even more devious, we're probably going to hit not town if we lynch within [e; ash]. So how do we decide which one?
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Vote Count 8.2
Not Voting (5): chairs, Hydrad, mail-mi, hockeysemlan, skip wooznum
2.71828..... (1): ashersky
ashersky (1): 2.71828.....
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 8 ends August 22nd, 3:00 PM.
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And skip is ash's partner. Well, maybe I want completely clear. I have no access to a computer so everything is phone posts and maybe more disjointed than normal
Look up what nexus is on mafiascum. He can only be targeted by killing actions. Everything else is redirected away
So ashersky targeted s_p with some sort of killing action. Because everything else would have redirected.
Actually, either ashersky or gkrieg did, but since gkrieg is dead, ashersky is the lynch today
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And skip is ash's partner. Well, maybe I want completely clear. I have no access to a computer so everything is phone posts and maybe more disjointed than normal
Look up what nexus is on mafiascum. He can only be targeted by killing actions. Everything else is redirected away
So ashersky targeted s_p with some sort of killing action. Because everything else would have redirected.
Actually, either ashersky or gkrieg did, but since gkrieg is dead, ashersky is the lynch today
we're possibly in lylo. So maybe you're lying for the last mislynch you need to win. The usual "kill him today and if he's town, me tomorrow" that is implicit in most investigative claims is not here. So we know we're lynching one of you two.
As for gkrieg, he was nk'ed, so unless a vig wants to speak up, the assumption is scum killed him.
And I missed that nexus bit, sorry.
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Looks like my gut was right, as usual.
I don't suppose you can provide a reason for us to believe you?
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As for gkrieg, he was nk'ed, so unless a vig wants to speak up, the assumption is scum killed him..
Exactly. Which is why ashersky is scum. If you assume scum killed gkrieg
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And skip is ash's partner. Well, maybe I want completely clear. I have no access to a computer so everything is phone posts and maybe more disjointed than normal
Look up what nexus is on mafiascum. He can only be targeted by killing actions. Everything else is redirected away
So ashersky targeted s_p with some sort of killing action. Because everything else would have redirected.
Actually, either ashersky or gkrieg did, but since gkrieg is dead, ashersky is the lynch today
Then how were you able to target him?
Oh right, because you are lying.
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As for gkrieg, he was nk'ed, so unless a vig wants to speak up, the assumption is scum killed him..
Exactly. Which is why ashersky is scum. If you assume scum killed gkrieg
or maybe you are scum.
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Which is a point I continue to make but for some reason you're not aknowledging.
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And skip is ash's partner. Well, maybe I want completely clear. I have no access to a computer so everything is phone posts and maybe more disjointed than normal
Look up what nexus is on mafiascum. He can only be targeted by killing actions. Everything else is redirected away
So ashersky targeted s_p with some sort of killing action. Because everything else would have redirected.
Actually, either ashersky or gkrieg did, but since gkrieg is dead, ashersky is the lynch today
Then how were you able to target him?
Oh right, because you are lying.
Good point. Maybe it worked because he was dead. My investigations were both only for dead people
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Coroner and forsenic (the roles I used on s_p) both target the dead. Coroner die his role, forsenic to get people who targeted him throughout the game
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I just targeted him and those were my results. If they were affected in any way, I don't know. I just know what the mood told me makes me think ashersky is scum
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Ye, by defenition, how can you investigate somebody and get a result of nexus? If he's a necus it would have redirected! vote: e
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Either it was a mod error, it was because he was dead, or whatever. I don't know.
It doesn't make sense to me either right now
I will ask sudgy
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My assumption is that you "lose your power" when you die. So s_p's role is nexus, but his nexus ability did not work because he was dead
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Which makes more sense than me crazily inventing a terrible fake claim to get ash.
I mean, seriously. It is a terrible claim of it were fake. But it isn't. So ash is scum
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Go back and read my posts. I have told the truth the whole time. Lynch me and scum probably wins
I claimed joat. I claimed parts of my joat as I used them.
I am just taking it as it comes. I haven't been able to follow to closely
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Well, I also used a 1 shot oracle to learn that survivors exist in this setup. Or at least to start the game
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I still have 1 tracker shot left.
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You sound desperate.
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Why is nobody else here?!
unvote
Does a nexus keep his nexusness after he dies?
Ugh, e sounds genuine... but idk! I feel like I have to decide all by myself!
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You sound desperate.
This is a great argument to make against me. No real way to respond. Just styling me in a way that makes me appear like scum.
Actually, it isn't even an argument, more of a coloring of everything I said. I applaud you, ashersky. It is the perfect play in this situation
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Why is nobody else here?!
unvote
Does a nexus keep his nexusness after he dies?
Ugh, e sounds genuine... but idk! I feel like I have to decide all by myself!
No.
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Why is nobody else here?!
unvote
Does a nexus keep his nexusness after he dies?
Ugh, e sounds genuine... but idk! I feel like I have to decide all by myself!
No.
Was or is there a nexus in this game?
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You sound desperate.
This is a great argument to make against me. No real way to respond. Just styling me in a way that makes me appear like scum.
Actually, it isn't even an argument, more of a coloring of everything I said. I applaud you, ashersky. It is the perfect play in this situation
It was an observation. I think you made the nexus thing up.
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This looks like claim time for ash.
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Hey guys, I hit the jackpot and got a joat ability!
Also, who is on the biggest wagon? Let's lynch them.
For now vote : xp
e claims joat early day 1. Not crazy to do as lying scum, but still...
All in all it's a very intricate claim to be fabricated.
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Also, scott being nexus fits well with this statement he made.
My role is such that if scum knew what it was, they would not want to kill me.
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This looks like claim time for ash.
No way I claim.
1. 2.7 is a notorious liar as scum. It's easily his most recognized trait. We've been scum together often.
2. I'm basically town's only hope. Claiming is not good.
3. Lynching 2.7 makes the most sense because if #1, plus, if I'm the liar (I'm not), you catch me via his flip.
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Why is nobody else here?!
unvote
Does a nexus keep his nexusness after he dies?
Ugh, e sounds genuine... but idk! I feel like I have to decide all by myself!
No.
Was or is there a nexus in this game?
I will not answer this question.
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Grar. vote: e I think.
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Grar. vote: e I think.
could you explain more?
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It's bastard. That is why. Always vote the person with most votes
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You didn't have the most votes till he voted you
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Good point. So we have a conundrum. Now that I have the most votes, he should vote me, but if he unvotes me, he no longer needs to vote me. Or if you vote ashersky and he unvotes, he must vote ashersky. Or if you vote ashersky he doesn't need to vote me
It's all very confusing. The main point is to vote ashersky. That question for the mod was ridiculous. You know that will never get answered
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This post is a lot like scum!e from dark ages......
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I don't remember scum!e from dark ages. I do know I am on a win streak right now for bastard games, and you lynch me that streak will end. Also town loses since I am town
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Seems like scott was a nexus. But that doesn't mean e is telling the truth about anything else.
Hang on, before you guys lynch silverspawn, I might have something to claim.
I've been thinking about it and I don't see a downside to claiming at least part of my role, so here goes: most actions that target me will end up targetting someone else instead. That's all I'm going to say for now.
The thing that I said at the beginning of the game about my role being such that scum wouldn't kill me if they knew about it, may not actually be true. I was going to say that independently of what role and alignment I got, I just wanted to WIFOM everyone into oblivion, but then nobody over-analyzed it :(.
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Doesn't look like much else is going on.
We've gotten all we can out of e and ash.
Chairs is voting e
Hydrad is v/la
I'm leaning towards believing e but I'm still unsure
Mail-mi is obviously useless
Where is hockey? I don't remember him posting in v/la. We should probably wait for him to say something.
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I remember hockey hinting at an investigate role. That might help
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request prod of hockey
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Vote Count 8.3
Not Voting (4): Hydrad, mail-mi, hockeysemlan, skip wooznum
2.71828..... (2): ashersky, chairs
ashersky (1): 2.71828.....
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 8 ends August 22nd, 3:00 PM.
request prod of hockey
Prod sent.
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No lynch is bad. Lynching me is worse. Vote ashersky people!
Now I have to abandon my phone to charge. Might not be back for a while
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There's plenty of time. I'm waiting for hydrad and hockey to take stances on this. Im leaning towards voting ash but I don't want to vote yet.
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There's plenty of time. I'm waiting for hydrad and hockey to take stances on this. Im leaning towards voting ash but I don't want to vote yet.
Scummy hedging is scummy.
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vote: ashersky
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vote: ashersky
Your already claimed scum.
So 2.7/mail-mi/skip team.
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vote: ashersky
Your already claimed scum.
So 2.7/mail-mi/skip team.
No, no. Skip is scum with you. I don't know anything about mail-mi
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I'm back!
so basically whats happened since I've been gone is e is saying ash is scum and ash is saying e is lying?
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I'm back!
so basically whats happened since I've been gone is e is saying ash is scum and ash is saying e is lying?
Yeah. Basically pick one.
Hint: I'm town.
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I'm back!
so basically whats happened since I've been gone is e is saying ash is scum and ash is saying e is lying?
Yeah. Basically pick one.
Hint: I'm town.
ahha thats a pretty useful hint. I'll take that into consideration. I have to google what the roles and stuff claimed are though first :D
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vote: ash
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Would have liked to wait a little more, but I might not be around the rest of the day.
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vote: ash
See, I'm right. Skip is also scum.
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Vote Count 8.4
Not Voting (2): Hydrad, hockeysemlan
2.71828..... (2): ashersky, chairs
ashersky (3): 2.71828....., mail-mi, skip wooznum
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch.
Day 8 ends August 22nd, 3:00 PM. THAT'S IN 27 HOURS.
Hockeysemlan has not responded to his prod. It's too late for a replacement, and I don't want to modkill him quite yet. If you don't lynch somebody by deadline, hockey will be modkilled as the lynch.
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Someone needs to unvote. l-1? This is bad guys.
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Claim
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Hey, its amazing! I am posting from a computer not my phone!
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and yeah, D8 is slightly to late to replace. By like 5 days or so
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Hydrad should hammer.
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We can't let this game die to inactivity
Hydrad, we need you.
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Ashersky will win on a hockey mod kill most likely
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We just can't let that happen
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ah sorry. so we have till 3 tomorrow? ok I'm just going to do a quick check before I hammer then.
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So. ...........scum wins now. Unless hockey is scum
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Come on hydrad, vote
Quickly
Deadline is passed though
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vote: ash
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Sorry forgot it was a 2 hour difference here
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THREAD LOCKED
I will let sudgy decide whether the lynch counts.
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Sorry, when making the deadline I thought it was on Sunday, not Saturday, so I wasn't around for deadline.
Anyway, Hydrad's vote did not count as it was past the deadline. hockeysemlan has been modkilled. mail-mi, chairs, and 2.71828..... have been endgamed by the mafia team of ashersky, Hydrad, and skip wooznum.
Mafia wins!
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Mod QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/ZKhgrigT7W6
Speccy QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/NdiQ8TFYKDCq
Mafia QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/LUWe5u3DXQ9D
Mime QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/AeT9asknmh6
Neighborhood QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/Jf9haFzRpiVGd
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Role PMs:
Awaclus:
Hello Awaclus, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Suicidal Vengeful Reflexive Normalizer.
At night, anybody who targets you will be normalized. This means that their action on you will turn into the most "normal" action they can take.
You will commit suicide on N4. Nothing can prevent this from happening, other than you dying earlier.
If you are lynched, you must choose another player. They will die instantly.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
2.71828.....:
Hello 2.71828....., welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Beloved Jack-of-all-trades.
You have four one-shot powers that you may use during the night. They are:
1-shot Tracker: Target a player. You will be told who they targeted during the night.
1-shot Oracle: You may ask me one question about what roles are or are not in the game. I will answer it.
1-shot Forensic Investigator: Target a dead player. You will be told all of the players that targeted them throughout the whole game.
1-shot Coroner: Target a dead player. You will be told their role, whether it was revealed or not when they died.
If you die, the next day phase will be skipped.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Ghacob:
Hello Ghacob, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Suicidal 63% Poison Doctor.
At night, you may target a player. If they are poisoned the same night, the poison will have a 63% chance of not affecting them. You will still have targeted the player if you fail to protect.
You will commit suicide on N4. Nothing can prevent this from happening, other than you dying earlier.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Hydrad:
Hello Hydrad, welcome to BM22! You are a mafia-aligned Hated Mafia Goon.
Your mafia team is yourself, XerxesPraelor, skip wooznum, and ashersky. Quicktopic link:[/b] http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/LUWe5u3DXQ9D
At night, you may perform your factional kill.
You take one less vote to be lynched.
You win when the mafia are the only players left alive, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
mail-mi:
Hello mail-mi, welcome to BM22! You are a Passive Atheist Ninja Mime.
You are Mimes along with nobody else. Quicktopic link: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/AeT9asknmh6
Mimes usually have a factional roleblock, but yours is passive. Any players that target you are roleblocked. Nobody can track this in any way.
You will appear as "Not Cult" to Private Investigators.
You win when all Mimes (yourself) have been lynched.
scott_pilgrim:
Hello scott_pilgrim, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Nexus.
Any player that targets you will instead target another random player. Kills are not redirected.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
hockeysemlan:
Hello hockeysemlan, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Babysitter.
At night, you may target another player. If you do, they will be protected from one kill. However, if you die during the night, your target will die too.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
XerxesPraelor:
Hello XerxesPraelor, welcome to BM22! You are a mafia-aligned Beloved Suicidal Vengeful Ascetic Compulsive Mafia Goon.
Your mafia team is yourself, Hydrad, skip wooznum, and ashersky. Quicktopic link:[/b] http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/LUWe5u3DXQ9D
At night, you must perform your factional kill. If it's not you doing the factional kill, you will be modkilled.
When you die, the next day phase will be skipped.
You will commit suicide on N4. Nothing can prevent this from happening, other than you dying earlier.
If you are lynched, you must choose another player. They will die instantly.
You are immune to all actions except for kills.
You win when the mafia are the only players left alive, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Just a note, XP was actually False, meaning his win condition was the only things that was real in his role.
faust:
Hello faust, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Beloved Suicidal 1-shot Loyal Ninja Neighbor.
You are a Neighbor, and have a QT here: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/Jf9haFzRpiVGd
If you die, the next day phase is skipped.
You will commit suicide on N4. Nothing can prevent this from happening, other than you dying earlier.
You have a 1-shot Loyal Ninja. When you target someone, you may choose to use it. It will only work on someone of your alignment.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Witherweaver:
Hello Witherweaver, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Vengeful Loved Delayed 45% Voyeur.
At night, you may target a player. You have a 45% chance of learning what actions were taken against them. You will receive your results the next night. Even if you fail to do your investigation, you will still have targeted that player.
You take one more vote to be lynched.
If you are lynched, you must choose another player. They will die instantly.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
silverspawn:
Hello silverspawn, welcome to BM22! You are a Survivor.
You win if you are alive when the game ends.
MarioManiac4:
Hello MarioManiac4, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Non-Consecutive Deathproof Beloved Princess.
At night, you may choose to be deathproof for the following day and night. You may not do this two nights in a row.
If you die, the next day phase will be skipped.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
chairs:
Hello chairs, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Multiple User Personality.
You have four 1-shot abilities that you may use during the night. You may only say you will use one; the one that you do use is decided randomly and you won't know which one you did. Your four abilities are:
1-shot Tree Stump: For this night and the next day, you will lose all abilities other than posting. No players may target you. Your votes will not count, and you will not be considered alive for vote counts. Next night, you will be fully in the game again.
1-shot Enabler: You will enable all Serial Killers for this night and day. Serial Killers do not need to be enabled except when you use this ability.
1-shot Innocent Child: You will be announced to be an Innocent Child at the start of the next day. You will be announced not an Innocent Child any more at the start of the day after that.
1-shot Lightning Rod: All actions will target you tonight.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
gkrieg13:
Hello gkrieg13, welcome to BM22! You are a town-aligned Coroner.
At night, you may target a dead player. If you do, you will be told their role, even if it was revealed at death or not.
You win when all threats to the town are eliminated, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
skip wooznum:
Hello skip wooznum, welcome to BM22! You are a mafia-aligned Enabler.
Your mafia team is yourself, XerxesPraelor, Hydrad, and ashersky. Quicktopic link:[/b] http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/LUWe5u3DXQ9D
At night, you may perform your factional kill.
You enable Millers. Any types of Millers will only work while you are alive.
You win when the mafia are the only players left alive, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
ashersky:
Hello ashersky, welcome to BM22! You are a mafia-aligned Janitor.
Your mafia team is yourself, XerxesPraelor, skip wooznum, and Hydrad. Quicktopic link:[/b] http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/LUWe5u3DXQ9D
At night, you may perform your factional kill. If you do, you will "clean up the body", making their role not be revealed.
You win when the mafia are the only players left alive, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
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Sweet.
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So, notes on the game:
It went pretty much how I thought it would, even though I wished people would take it more seriously (but I knew most wouldn't). I know there was a few weird things about it, like a False Compulsive Mafia Goon, but that's what randomness told me to do. I also realized that there were a few weird calls to make (like a False Mafia, or a 1-shot Innocent Child, or a single Mime) and that I should have put some disclaimer in the game.
As I mentioned in the Speccy, I might try this type of setup again, but make it RMM and veto any Bastard elements. This would still make it crazy, but everybody would take it more seriously, nobody would get mad at False roles, etc.
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sorry I feel kinda bad getting the win through missing the deadline...
although skip. you could of jumped on e and i could of hammered him or something and we would of had the win that way also.
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I mean, you guys had it basically in the bag anyway
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But Hey! survived to the end!
But it did end my streak of winning bastard games....
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although skip. you could of jumped on e and i could of hammered him or something and we would of had the win that way also.
This.
No need for the bus at that point.
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I also completely disagree that "false" negates the factional kill. That was bogus.
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I was so close. :( if I hadn't miscounted then I would have won. :(
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sorry I feel kinda bad getting the win through missing the deadline...
although skip. you could of jumped on e and i could of hammered him or something and we would of had the win that way also.
I was afraid he was loved and it would expose us all. I knew even if ash was lynched we could shoot e and get another night because he claimed beloved, so I wasn't too worried.
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By the way, loved my role. All I had to do was get lynched, which I'm really good at, and no one could kill me because I passively roleblocked everyone. (And no one could track it, which is nice.)
And then I threw it away. :(
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Couple of things:
Firstly, sudgy could you explain the whole false ruling, cuz the wiki seems to be on ash's side?
Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
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Firstly, sudgy could you explain the whole false ruling, cuz the wiki seems to be on ash's side?
The way I read the wiki, I thought of it as "The win condition is the only thing true." Obviously XP had to be able to talk to his mafia buddies, but I tried to make it as False as possible. The beginning of the wiki seems to suggest that False players can't target people. When it said that win conditions can't be false, I felt like it implied that's the only thing that can't be False.
Also, after deciding it, I don't want to change it. There are a few things I might have done differently with the same roles if I redid this setup again, but once I did it, it was final.
As I said in my post in the mafia QT, I did try to push as much as I could of the setup towards scum's favor because of this.
Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
Nobody was really taking this game seriously, so I don't think I'll be giving an MVP for this game. Sorry.
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Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
Nobody was really taking this game seriously, so I don't think I'll be giving an MVP for this game. Sorry.
ss was though.
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Also note that mafia was compensated for XP being negative utility by them getting a 4th member, skip wooznum. Further, the wiki does not side with ash. See my comments in mod QT.
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Also whoops, never got around to doing more flavor. Anyway, none of the names where really random. There where 4 4's, and the PM referenced an XKCD. There were people with varying numbers of 5s. There were 4 anagrams of 'lio is scum'. And the random strings of digits/binary I will leave a mystery :)
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I firmly believe "false" applies to all role powers. Factional kills are not role powers, and can't be false (unless they are, by design, which is bastard, but that's this game's category).
The wiki states mafia roleblocker = mafia goon as an example. A mafia goon can do the factional kill.
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I firmly believe "false" applies to all role powers. Factional kills are not role powers, and can't be false (unless they are, by design, which is bastard, but that's this game's category).
The wiki states mafia roleblocker = mafia goon as an example. A mafia goon can do the factional kill.
You can believe that, but there's no precedent or evidence to support that as far as I see it. A false mafia roleblocker is obviously not 'equal' to a mafia goon. Even if they behave the same way, they are different. It is just as valid to interpret the example as just a suggestion, or as it meaning a FALSE mafia goon. It's not like roleblocker cancels out false. Further, mafia goon is a role, not an alignment, and the factional kill can be considered a role power; albeit one that can only be used by one mafia-alogned player.
Your interpretation isn't wrong or even worse than sudgy's, it just isn't better.
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I firmly believe "false" applies to all role powers. Factional kills are not role powers, and can't be false (unless they are, by design, which is bastard, but that's this game's category).
The wiki states mafia roleblocker = mafia goon as an example. A mafia goon can do the factional kill.
You can believe that, but there's no precedent or evidence to support that as far as I see it. A false mafia roleblocker is obviously not 'equal' to a mafia goon. Even if they behave the same way, they are different. It is just as valid to interpret the example as just a suggestion, or as it meaning a FALSE mafia goon. It's not like roleblocker cancels out false. Further, mafia goon is a role, not an alignment, and the factional kill can be considered a role power; albeit one that can only be used by one mafia-alogned player.
Your interpretation isn't wrong or even worse than sudgy's, it just isn't better.
The actual problem is we are arguing over a ruling in a Bastard game, when rulings don't matter because the mod is not accountable anyway.
If you believe that factional abilities = role powers, then I'd like you to explain why XP could use the factional QT, even though that should have been False, too, given it is a factional ability.
I've stated my opinion, which is that factional abilities are separate from role powers, and therefore should not be subject to the "false" role modifier. If your opinion is the opposite, I'm looking for a justification that one factional power was falsified (kill) while another wasn't (communication).
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If he could not post/use the mafia QT, he would know he was false, which defeats the point.
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If he could not post/use the mafia QT, he would know he was false, which defeats the point.
how is that relevent though?
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If he could not post/use the mafia QT, he would know he was false, which defeats the point.
how is that relevent though?
False players think they have abilities but they don't actually work. There's no way to do that for posting in the mafia QT.
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Make a new QT.
Post in it under the names of the rest of the scum team.
Don't let anyone else see what he says in the QT.
For bonus points, don't copy and paste what the scum team writes, make it up. Or make up a new scum team if knowing the rest of the faction is also Falsifiable.
Impractical, but possibly hilarious.
You might need to get a couple different IPs to come in so he can't tell that it's all one person though.
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Make a new QT.
Post in it under the names of the rest of the scum team.
Don't let anyone else see what he says in the QT.
For bonus points, don't copy and paste what the scum team writes, make it up. Or make up a new scum team if knowing the rest of the faction is also Falsifiable.
Impractical, but possibly hilarious.
You might need to get a couple different IPs to come in so he can't tell that it's all one person though.
I really want to see this happen now.
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If he could not post/use the mafia QT, he would know he was false, which defeats the point.
how is that relevent though?
False players think they have abilities but they don't actually work. There's no way to do that for posting in the mafia QT.
that may be the spirit of what the false modifier does, but it shouldn't have any weight in regards to dictating rules. Certainly not if it dictates contradicting rules. Maybe if you want to use that as a reason to give xp all factional powers. But it's no excuse for giving him some.
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Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
Nobody was really taking this game seriously, so I don't think I'll be giving an MVP for this game. Sorry.
ss was though.
I was taking the game very seriously, (http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/7Jc5YeZTaGT) but mvp is usually from the winning team, and since neither I won nor town which I was trying to make win, I don't think it's really appropriate.
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If he could not post/use the mafia QT, he would know he was false, which defeats the point.
how is that relevent though?
False players think they have abilities but they don't actually work. There's no way to do that for posting in the mafia QT.
that may be the spirit of what the false modifier does, but it shouldn't have any weight in regards to dictating rules. Certainly not if it dictates contradicting rules. Maybe if you want to use that as a reason to give xp all factional powers. But it's no excuse for giving him some.
I don't see why you need all the factional powers to be affected the same way. It's just an arbitrary category. And one of them could not be made false practically, so it wasn't. Even with UoS's cool idea, XP could still get suspicious that something was up when they never acknowledge anything he says. No rules were contradicted.
MVP goes to silverspawn, however, MVP stands for most valuable pictures.
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Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
Nobody was really taking this game seriously, so I don't think I'll be giving an MVP for this game. Sorry.
ss was though.
I was taking the game very seriously, (http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/7Jc5YeZTaGT) but mvp is usually from the winning team, and since neither I won nor town which I was trying to make win, I don't think it's really appropriate.
if there had too be an mvp, who should it be then?
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Secondly, I think ss should be mvp. Nobody on our scumteam really deserved it, and he saved the game from mail-mi's clutches. And it was clearly the wrong move to lynch him as he was going to be playing seriously and scumhunting, which nobody else did. I didn't vote for him because town!me never would. My $0.02.
Nobody was really taking this game seriously, so I don't think I'll be giving an MVP for this game. Sorry.
ss was though.
I was taking the game very seriously, (http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/7Jc5YeZTaGT) but mvp is usually from the winning team, and since neither I won nor town which I was trying to make win, I don't think it's really appropriate.
if there had too be an mvp, who should it be then?
no idea, I stopped following the game, because fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu town
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(not to be taken too seriously, but it describes my attitude)
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I took it seriously.
Unfortunately I'm bad and got mislynched. :(