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[Swowl]

I was Draft Position #5 and got Doctor.

Do I claim targets now or after claim is done?

Now!

N1Hydrad
N2Robz
N3Robz

[pingpongsam]

WW was vigged?

[Swowl]

WW was vigged?

That is what I thought at first, but also then Robz wasn't "shot at" last night either and there is only one shot in Vig and so.....

My thinking was either they ignored Robz assuming that there was a Doctor or something in play that was gonna proc him or they have JK or something and decided to JK or something Robz and kill elsewhere - But then Robz got his shots off so the second idea went out the door, so I honestly think that they just chose to ignore Robz. After the claim is done, that will probably help in our deduction of where things lye.

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WW was vigged?

No he was not.

[pingpongsam]

How does a Doctor know if their target was targeted?

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How does a Doctor know if their target was targeted?

They don't. DatSwan was speculating. It's part ood the whole discussion we can have if we would finish claiming

also I think you missed datswan in your claim list.

Oops. (This undermines my claim that the list was deliberate and thought out... but it is!)

Claim order: 2.7, PPS, Cuzz, Awaclus, DatSwan, Space, Hydrad

Space needs to claim then that is everyone

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Then after space people who were neighborized by hydrad can also claim. Not as important, but still informative

[Robz888]

I'm currently in a neighborhood with Space and unsure whether they need to claim here. Should probably put together a list of who claimed what, and numbers.

[SpaceAnemone]

I'm currently in a neighborhood with Space and unsure whether they need to claim here. Should probably put together a list of who claimed what, and numbers.

I can confirm the bit about being in Hydrad's neighbourhood.

I'll put together a list of claims from the main thread to post in here later tonight, since I already started it yesterday before all the responses were in.

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1: Robz888 - 2-shot cop (targets: jimmmm, IDPTG; both scum)
2: 2.71828..... - 1-shot vig
3: Cuzz - UB (now ninja)
5: datswan - Doctor (targets N1 Hydard; N2/N3 Robz)
12: Awaclus - VT
13: pingpongsam - VT
??: SpaceAnemonie - unclaimed

Faust - town ninja
Hydrad - neighborizer
Xxraptorslayer96 - VT
Witherweaver - VT
idontplaythisgame - goon
Jimmmmm - Tracker

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Claimed slots taken:

Study Physical
Ninja - faust (draft position ???)
Strongman

Study Natural
Neighborizer - Hydard (draft position ???)
Motion Detector

Study Knowledge
2-shot Allignment Cop - Robz (draft position 1)
JOAT (1-shot Ninja, 1-shot Strongman, 1-shot Roleblocker)

Study Healing
Doctor - DatSwan (draft position 5)
1-shot Bulletproof

Study Psychic - No claims
1-shot Commuter
2-shot Motivator

Pray to Our Lady of the Underground
Watcher
Tracker - Jimmmmm (draft position ???)

Party with Bacchus
Day 2 Innocent Child (Town Only)
Universal Backup - Cuzz (draft position 3)

Work for the Library - No claims
Jailkeeper
JOAT (1-shot Role Cop, 1-shot Tracker, 1-shot Reloader)

Sleep with a God
1-shot Vigilante - e (draft position 2)
Roleblocker

Make a Fairy Deal - no claims
Random PR
Random PR
Random PR

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I really hope space is the JOAT (and town)

If they 1) have copped a target that is still alive and 2) are able to reload Robz for another shot

in conjunction with Hydrad doctoring Robz tonight I think the possibility for scum to win is basically zero.

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Speculation, but consider this scenario (Robz/space/hydard town):

N1/N2 Space used cop.  Their target is still alive.  If Space had targeted scum they would have claimed and we could lynch them and end the game.
N3 Space reloads Robz
N4 Space uses tracker, Robz uses cop; hydrad can doctor either one of them and the end result is the same (tracker is basically cop at this point with only 1 scum)

We lynch today in Awaclus/Cuzz/PPS/e.  Then investigation results are garnered from that same group giving us one more confirmed town.  Even if we mislynch again tomorrow there will be a result that implicates the final scum and a definitive scum lynch in lylo based on results.

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of course, that scenario might not be even possible.

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or one of hydrad/space could be scum

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If Robz is scum I am totally fine with letting him win after killing off his two partners.

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Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

[Robz888]

Hydrad was draft position 11.

WW was draft position "middle-ish" and went for Day 2 IC. WW was Hydrad's first neighborhood recruit. I was the second, WW was already dead. I thought it unlikely hydrad would want to kill the person he had neigbhorized right off the bat, thus my town read on him.

[Cuzz]

Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

There is no chance scum in the #3 spot takes UB.

[Robz888]

Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

There is no chance scum in the #3 spot takes UB.

Right. If you are scum, you are probably not what you say you are.

[Swowl]

Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

There is no chance scum in the #3 spot takes UB.

#3 skum fake claimed out another and took UB - not saying it happened just saying that would be how it happens.

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Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

There is no chance scum in the #3 spot takes UB.

I mean, that's not really true. Scum did take tracker, which doesn't have any scum utility except to have something good to claim when a mass claim inevitably happened and to keep the power away from town.

Taking UB in slot 3 would allow scum to make a statement like kind of exactly like you just did.

[Cuzz]

Or the plan fails because cuzz is ninja scum now that he inherited that as UB.

There is no chance scum in the #3 spot takes UB.

I mean, that's not really true. Scum did take tracker, which doesn't have any scum utility except to have something good to claim when a mass claim inevitably happened and to keep the power away from town.

Taking UB in slot 3 would allow scum to make a statement like kind of exactly like you just did.

I mean... sure. Or they could take sometime useful like e.g. Ninja

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I assume faust was probably 6/7/8ish and took ninja - not because it would actually benefit him specifically as a member of town, but because it would benefit town as a whole.  Had he been a VT and stayed alive longer we would know for certain that scum had ninja/strongman, and that knowledge is useful.

Basically, I reject the line of thinking that says "I am draft position 3 and took UB, therefore I am town"

[Robz888]

I mean, scum UB worked out really well for O in mafia what-was-it, when he picked up Roleblocker. It's possible.