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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #950 on: April 15, 2014, 12:51:45 am »

He goes for 1-shot alignment cop as SK? There is simply no way. It's too ridiculous. He needs to survive. It doesn't help me do anything. It possibly even endangers him.
Ash went for the mafia cop, sk might go for the sk cop.

But it's completely different. Mafia wants to deny town the cop roles. Their concern is staying hidden. And they want to get fake town and confused for towncred.

The Serial Killer is always in bad position. His concern is staying alive. The SK needs certain powers... and doesn't need investigative powers AT ALL. They are worse than worthless to the SK. in Slot 5, the Roleblocker is about a thousand times more useful to the SK than a 1-shot Alignment Cop. Even in Slot 9, the odds of getting nothing that was better than that seem ridiculously low. And if sudgy faked having it as SK (maybe he was Slot 9 and let it pass by), he took a pointless risk by falsely clearing Voltaire. What if Voltaire was actually scum? Then sudgy would be caught to the mafia.

And it's not like, "But he could do it for WIFOM!" At the point in time at which he had to pick a PR, there's just absolutely no way he thought, "I'm going to go for WIFOM by taking a role that drastically reduces my already small chances of winning!" instead of "I'm going to go for a role that unmakes me SK!"
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #951 on: April 15, 2014, 01:13:49 am »

If everyone wants to mass-claim, I'll come up with an order and lead one. I do not "sanction" a mass-claim as the IC, but I also think any downsides, if present, are small. If it helps everyone else scumhunt, I'm fine with doing it.

I'm sensing a lack of urgency and posting. I think you should go ahead and do this. I would be happy to go first. Otherwise, I suggest Axxle gives a full account of his number, draft order, and rationale.

Mcmc's "just the VTs claim," is probably okay, alternatively. For that you probably just have to prepare a straight up list where each person responds VT/not VT.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Night 2)
« Reply #952 on: April 15, 2014, 04:06:45 am »

"Life can only be understood backwards; but it must be lived forwards."
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Vote Count 3.1


mail-mi (1): Axxle

Not Voting (8): Robz888, Voltaire, jotheonah, sudgy, mail-mi, AndrewisFTTW, scott_pilgrim, mcmcsalot

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch

Day 3 ends on April 23 at noon.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #953 on: April 15, 2014, 08:43:30 am »

Some sort of mass claim will begin tonight.

Do other stuff until then.

Look, I'll help out! Pretend it is D1!

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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #954 on: April 15, 2014, 09:00:19 am »

Some sort of mass claim will begin tonight.

Do other stuff until then.

Look, I'll help out! Pretend it is D1!

vote: mcmc

But I am town!
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #955 on: April 15, 2014, 09:40:10 am »

Axxle, Robz888, Voltaire, jotheonah, sudgy, mail-mi, AndrewisFTTW, scott_pilgrim, mcmcsalot

"Cleared"
Voltaire
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #956 on: April 15, 2014, 10:57:16 am »

D1 on D3? Cool.

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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #957 on: April 15, 2014, 11:15:58 am »

I've always wanted to be a tilde.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #958 on: April 15, 2014, 12:07:16 pm »

Wait, why is Axxle cleared?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #959 on: April 15, 2014, 12:13:13 pm »

Wait, why is Axxle cleared?

I don't consider him cleared.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #960 on: April 15, 2014, 12:13:52 pm »

So, Joth. Are you the SK? That would be kind of funny. You were last SK back in... let me think... Mafia III, it was?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #961 on: April 15, 2014, 12:54:38 pm »

Axxle is ~cleared, because he's only SK in a scenario that seems unlikely to me, on account of his bus driving power. I don't think he's today's lynch.

Robz, I would love a do-over for that performance, wherein I thought that claiming vig as SK was super clever and original.

But I didn't roll one this game.

Andrew, why do you think I'm the killer?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #962 on: April 15, 2014, 01:08:27 pm »

Why not?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #963 on: April 15, 2014, 02:07:27 pm »

I don't know. All I can point to is my 133+ scumhunting skills and those unfortunately mean nothing here.

Thank you Robz for reminding me about when I was SK, because it made me realize. When I was SK I was really really scared of being lynched. I think we want to look for someone who has either lurked like crazy or been really really noncontroversial. Someone who hasn't been worth suspecting, or someone who was suspected and reacted weirdly strongly to it.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #964 on: April 15, 2014, 02:13:38 pm »

I don't know. All I can point to is my 133+ scumhunting skills and those unfortunately mean nothing here.

Thank you Robz for reminding me about when I was SK, because it made me realize. When I was SK I was really really scared of being lynched. I think we want to look for someone who has either lurked like crazy or been really really noncontroversial. Someone who hasn't been worth suspecting, or someone who was suspected and reacted weirdly strongly to it.

It's day 3 of a 15 person game, this defines everyone.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #965 on: April 15, 2014, 02:16:37 pm »

I don't know. All I can point to is my 133+ scumhunting skills and those unfortunately mean nothing here.

Thank you Robz for reminding me about when I was SK, because it made me realize. When I was SK I was really really scared of being lynched. I think we want to look for someone who has either lurked like crazy or been really really noncontroversial. Someone who hasn't been worth suspecting, or someone who was suspected and reacted weirdly strongly to it.

I think that's you!
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #966 on: April 15, 2014, 02:23:11 pm »

I don't know. All I can point to is my 133+ scumhunting skills and those unfortunately mean nothing here.

Thank you Robz for reminding me about when I was SK, because it made me realize. When I was SK I was really really scared of being lynched. I think we want to look for someone who has either lurked like crazy or been really really noncontroversial. Someone who hasn't been worth suspecting, or someone who was suspected and reacted weirdly strongly to it.

I think that's you!

Someone OTHER than me. On account of, I'm town.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #967 on: April 15, 2014, 02:43:23 pm »

Oh. Well then I'm sorry joth!  ;)
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #968 on: April 15, 2014, 04:25:09 pm »

I just realized I haven't posted at all today.  I've been reading but haven't found anything to talk about...
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #969 on: April 15, 2014, 04:29:35 pm »

sudgy, your ever-so-helpful signature says you've been SK twice. help us get inside the mind of the beast. how would you be playing right now as an SK?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #970 on: April 15, 2014, 04:37:48 pm »

sudgy, your ever-so-helpful signature says you've been SK twice. help us get inside the mind of the beast. how would you be playing right now as an SK?

Don't worry about BMXI, everybody was a SK that game and I used my suicide bomb N0.

Anyway, earlier I would be scumhunting and playing mostly like my town self unless I am about to get lynched (where I would probably start acting just like MXXXII (i.e. freaking out)).  At this point I would try to play as scum, which is still trying to play like my town self.  I play scum differently than most people (I don't worry about trying to push mislynches and such, I just try to scumhunt even though in the back of my mind I know that I'm wrong (I can never remember if something I said was in a town game or a scum game sometimes because I don't think about how I'm scum sometimes when posting as scum)), so I don't know if my advice is the best advice ever.

If there's someone that was freaking out when they were almost lynched, I think that could tell us that they are SK.  I can't easily think of something else at the moment outside of that.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #971 on: April 15, 2014, 04:38:43 pm »

No one really came close to being lynched, except the people we lynched.

Voltaire, we need your order!
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #972 on: April 15, 2014, 04:44:11 pm »

You know who has been a little disproportionately defensive? Andrew

12.  AndrewisFTTW - oh weird he disappeared

Oh weird I was on a gig and just got off. If you have a scum read on me just say it instead of subtly suggesting that I'm lurking or whatever it is you're doing. It's annoying.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #973 on: April 15, 2014, 04:49:07 pm »

I agree! But I'm also kind of suspicious of Scott, and that's virtually everyone.

I think the two people I least suspect of being the SK are mcmc and mail-mi, who I THINK would actually be more involved if they had anything special going on.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (Day 3)
« Reply #974 on: April 15, 2014, 04:54:38 pm »

vote: AndrewisFTTW
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