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[faust]

scum clearly knows about this 2nd chance at life thing.  Crap - it looks like ashersky killed Voltaire and scum killed ashersky.  The question is why would scum want to kill ashersky?

It isn't all that clear to me that scum knows.

Vote: EFHW for now. This only adds to my previous suspicion.

They must know b/c ashersky was killed again. 

So you have been thinking I'm scum?  When did this suspicion begin, and how strong has it been?

I think I mentoned this D1, I had a scumread on you partway through D1 (started some time after the challenge). The way you defended Voltaire and tried to lynch ashersky just seemed fishy. It's certainly not at super solid case, but the strongest scum read a have at the moment.

[Voltaire]

So I know I never did one of these D1, but it seems there will still be some value to it.

Post count (no pregame)
142 ashersky? ashersky?
110 Voltaire
78 EFHW
51 faust
39 Eevee
34 jotheonah
22 Archetype
22 xeiron
14 Walrus

Eevee I forgot was even in this game, somehow.

[Voltaire]

I honestly think we could be looking for as little as one scum player right now. If town players become scum on their second life, this could fix the double-kill problem original scum would have. If only one of them is stuck like that, it makes the team much better.

Because if every town player gets town lives, scum can't win.

If our original lives don't flip and we get new roles, then...I don't really know.

[faust]

I honestly think we could be looking for as little as one scum player right now. If town players become scum on their second life, this could fix the double-kill problem original scum would have. If only one of them is stuck like that, it makes the team much better.

Because if every town player gets town lives, scum can't win.

If our original lives don't flip and we get new roles, then...I don't really know.

I still think alignment changing would be bastard. Doesn't matter if you die in between, you're forced to play for a wincon that you can't be sure you will still have at the end of the game. So your excellent vig shot at scum turns out to be horrible because you get to be scum! And that is pretty bastard to me.

I really think it looks like this: We have secondary characters (colored green regardless of alignment) that turn into good Bluths (colored purple) or evil Bluths (colored red presumably). And everyone keeps their wincon in the process.

[faust]

If alignments are kept on dying, which I strongly believe, then everybody who dies at night is very likely town.

I'm wondering if we should no lynch. A lynch won't be informative, as alignments don't flip. We get more time to have our PRs work. And if scum kills, this strongly indicates the killed player (who remains alive) being town.

[Voltaire]

I really think it looks like this: We have secondary characters (colored green regardless of alignment) that turn into good Bluths (colored purple) or evil Bluths (colored red presumably). And everyone keeps their wincon in the process.

Then we gain no information from our lynches? And scum, if caught on their first lives, are doomed to be insta-lynched again just for town to figure out if they were actually right again or not? I dunno.

[Voltaire]

faust saying the same thing. I agree, I see no reason not to no-lynch.

[EFHW]

I have to second Voltaire's complaint about the colors.  Using green was VERY misleading.

[EFHW]

so you have had a slight scum read on me, faust? 

[Voltaire]

faust saying the same thing. I agree, I see no reason not to no-lynch.

which actually makes me think we must be missing something. Now that I think about that.

[EFHW]

If alignments are kept on dying, which I strongly believe, then everybody who dies at night is very likely town.

This doesn't follow.  You can redirect kills.  What if you by happenstance redirect to a scum player?

This is the second time your posts contradict what you say your role is.  I had a strong town read on you at the end of Day 1, which I indicated in a post.  Today I am just perplexed.

[Voltaire]

This doesn't follow.  You can redirect kills.  What if you by happenstance redirect to a scum player?

This is the second time your posts contradict what you say your role is.  I had a strong town read on you at the end of Day 1, which I indicated in a post.  Today I am just perplexed.

If faust doesn't use his role, then he's fine. He hasn't claimed compulsive, has he? Because ash wasn't compulsive, so I now see where all this confusion came from.

[EFHW]

I have to go, and might not be back for awhile, so I will tell everyone now that faust targeted me last night. I thought he must have bodyguarded me, but now that he says he has suspicions, I think maybe he wanted to direct a kill to me. That is all the information I have about it - I don't know what he did. 

[faust]

If alignments are kept on dying, which I strongly believe, then everybody who dies at night is very likely town.

This doesn't follow.  You can redirect kills.  What if you by happenstance redirect to a scum player?

This is the second time your posts contradict what you say your role is.  I had a strong town read on you at the end of Day 1, which I indicated in a post.  Today I am just perplexed.

Well, now I know, so I can use my role in a way to ensure this doesn't happen, and every other town player should as well.

[faust]

I have to go, and might not be back for awhile, so I will tell everyone now that faust targeted me last night. I thought he must have bodyguarded me, but now that he says he has suspicions, I think maybe he wanted to direct a kill to me. That is all the information I have about it - I don't know what he did.

That is correct. How do you know that? (or maybe you don't want to reveal, I could understand that)

[faust]

This doesn't follow.  You can redirect kills.  What if you by happenstance redirect to a scum player?

This is the second time your posts contradict what you say your role is.  I had a strong town read on you at the end of Day 1, which I indicated in a post.  Today I am just perplexed.

If faust doesn't use his role, then he's fine. He hasn't claimed compulsive, has he? Because ash wasn't compulsive, so I now see where all this confusion came from.

No, my role is not compulsive, and even if it was, I could just use my standard Bodyguarding and be fine.

[jotheonah]

I think we should keep no lynch in mind but definitely continue to scumhunt. Otherwise we waste the day.

[Voltaire]

faust, why did you target EFHW?

[Archetype]

three claims and no actual Bluths? For reference, there are 9 actual Bluth family members, 11 if you count Oscar and Annyong. So this I find suspicious. I f I were designing a 9-player Arested Development mafia game, I would probably include the 9 Bluths, vis a vis:

Lucille Bluth
George Sr.
Michael
Gob
Buster
Lindsay
Tobias
George Michael
Maibe


So, without saying anything about my own role flavor, I have to wonder if one or more of these claims isn't a fake claim. Or if there's just some weird mod-trolling here.

Well this is an interesting post by Jo.

In everyone's next post, I need you to please state whether or not you targeted Voltaire last night. A simple yes or no will suffice.

[Voltaire]

No.

To be clear, I think this was possible, as if I had used ash's role and redirected someone to me it might have counted as targeting myself.

[jotheonah]

No.

why interesting?

[faust]

faust, why did you target EFHW?

She was my top scumread, and I didn't have someone I wanted to protect.

To Archetype: No, obviously, I targeted EFHW.

[Eevee]

didnt target voltaire.


town read on faust, had a town read on voltaire, no idea about second lifes but I guess I still do.

[Archetype]

No.

why interesting?

Just seems like that is what's going on. We'll all Secondary charachters that then become Main Charachters upon death.

[xeiron]

In everyone's next post, I need you to please state whether or not you targeted Voltaire last night. A simple yes or no will suffice.

no