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[Brightgalrs]

The easiest option is that raerae is a WW RB

No, she's definitely vanilla-ized and can't be responsible for the roleblocking. If there is only a WW RB left then it's Uncle or you.

In fact, the roleblocker, whichever flavor of scum they are, has to be Uncle or you.
When it's put to you like that, surely you'd be in favor of lynching Uncle, right?

[LaLight]

The easiest option is that raerae is a WW RB

No, she's definitely vanilla-ized and can't be responsible for the roleblocking. If there is only a WW RB left then it's Uncle or you.

In fact, the roleblocker, whichever flavor of scum they are, has to be Uncle or you.
When it's put to you like that, surely you'd be in favor of lynching Uncle, right?

Oh

Right

[LaLight]

Wait, what if vanillaizer was roleblocked?

[LaLight]

Ah, to hell with it

vote: Uncleeurope

[raerae]

Bright, none of your scenarios consider I could be town. Have you taken that off the table completely? If you put it back on does that change your lunch preference?

[Uncleeurope]

Guys, why are you killing me today?

A no-lynch it better than killing me here.

In every world killing me tomorrow is better. I can’t night kill.

Galz is almost certainly lying. The cases where he isn’t lying have me noted as a RBer, I’m not a RBer. Galz doesn’t ever hide a result unless he’s scum. Every other day he has immediately claimed the result, today he decided to wait and read the room before deciding what to claim. No reason to do that, why not open the day with the Bright clear?

Go look at my play, I am very clearly not on any of the scum teams.

Let me reiterate - I can’t kill anyone at night.

If you still don’t believe me tomorrow, lynch me then.
 

[Brightgalrs]

Bright, none of your scenarios consider I could be town. Have you taken that off the table completely? If you put it back on does that change your lunch preference?

In the first three scenarios, you are town:

The final list of scenarios where the Town is likely to win:

• LaLight is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker, LaLight is a SK.
• raerae is Mafia, and Uncleeurope is the WW roleblocker.
• raerae is WW, and Uncleeurope is the Mafia roleblocker.

[raerae]

Bright, none of your scenarios consider I could be town. Have you taken that off the table completely? If you put it back on does that change your lunch preference?

In the first three scenarios, you are town:

The final list of scenarios where the Town is likely to win:

• LaLight is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker, LaLight is a SK.
• raerae is Mafia, and Uncleeurope is the WW roleblocker.
• raerae is WW, and Uncleeurope is the Mafia roleblocker.

Ahhhh, gotcha.

[Uncleeurope]

Bright, I swear to you that I am not a RBer.

From the depths and trenches within my soul, I swear to you.

Please don’t lynch me.

4/5 cases have me as a RBer, why would I ever RB a Galz while claiming survivor? I would never RB Galz two night back over someone who I was suspicious could NK.

[LaLight]

unvote

I'll try to figure it out when it's not weekend

[Uncleeurope]

Bright, none of your scenarios consider I could be town. Have you taken that off the table completely? If you put it back on does that change your lunch preference?

In the first three scenarios, you are town:

The final list of scenarios where the Town is likely to win:

• LaLight is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker.
• Uncleeurope is a WW roleblocker, LaLight is a SK.
• raerae is Mafia, and Uncleeurope is the WW roleblocker.
• raerae is WW, and Uncleeurope is the Mafia roleblocker.

Also, from my understanding LL can’t be WW unless another player is SK.

You need to make a new list that considers that Galz is scum.

You not doing that makes you look like Galz’s partner.

Bright, what are your scenarios for me being Survivor?

If it turns out Galz is last scum and you guys just lynch me for the luls then lynch Galz tomorrow, I will be so sad.

Do you know how many NKs I survived? Like, 40 billion of them.

[Uncleeurope]

I went into this role knowing I was unlikely to win, and I was fine with that, I was just playing for the fun of it as my semester winded down. Now I feel like I can win this thing, but I am being locked out of that because you guys don’t want to test to see if another player is the last scum before me.

If we lynch the last scum today we just immediately win.

[raerae]

I went into this role knowing I was unlikely to win, and I was fine with that, I was just playing for the fun of it as my semester winded down. Now I feel like I can win this thing, but I am being locked out of that because you guys don’t want to test to see if another player is the last scum before me.

If we lynch the last scum today we just immediately win.

I'm not voting for you yet, slow down the panic button.

[Uncleeurope]

I went into this role knowing I was unlikely to win, and I was fine with that, I was just playing for the fun of it as my semester winded down. Now I feel like I can win this thing, but I am being locked out of that because you guys don’t want to test to see if another player is the last scum before me.

If we lynch the last scum today we just immediately win.

I'm not voting for you yet, slow down the panic button.

It’s hard when I’m panicking.

[raerae]

I went into this role knowing I was unlikely to win, and I was fine with that, I was just playing for the fun of it as my semester winded down. Now I feel like I can win this thing, but I am being locked out of that because you guys don’t want to test to see if another player is the last scum before me.

If we lynch the last scum today we just immediately win.

I'm not voting for you yet, slow down the panic button.

It’s hard when I’m panicking.

Fair enough. Let's chat. If Galz is lying, why clear Bright over somebody else?

[Brightgalrs]

Galz is almost certainly lying. The cases where he isn’t lying have me noted as a RBer, I’m not a RBer.

Shouldn't your suspicion be with LaLight over Galz? It's entirely possible LaLight is the scum RBer, and they've been lying about being a SK the entire time. That seems pretty straight forward compared to thinking Galz is scum.

But let's imagine Galz is scum. On Day 2 Galz somehow knew faust (an Alien) was scum and the only way that's possible (without a random guess) is if Galz is also an Alien (No scum investigative roles uncover Aliens, faust had no Watch-able or Track-able ability). The Alien's would've created this plan on Night 1: Galz would claim to have a guilty investigation on faust, faust would then be lynched, and this would result in Galz being "confirmed" as Town. This strategy also requires Galz to be the Bulletproof Alien Lover (guaranteeing them not being night killed).

The problem with all of that is that MiX was apparently not on board with the plan. Go back and look at a few of their posts during Day 2. It should've been really simple, get on faust's lynchwagon as soon as possible, get them lynched. Instead MiX (somewhat weakly) suggested not lynching faust, saying that the Mafia is a bigger threat than the Aliens. How they acted doesn't match with having a master plan.

[Uncleeurope]

From my seat most people were already trusting Bright, other than you. So it wasn’t the most impactful clear.

The other element to this is Bright was the only realistic target (which reinforces my opinion regarding him waiting only to decide if he should claim RB or not). And therefor the only target that allows Galz to remain under the radar. You got cleared of being SK, LL got cleared of being SK as well. If Galz targets either of them then it’s really weird.

[Uncleeurope]

Galz is almost certainly lying. The cases where he isn’t lying have me noted as a RBer, I’m not a RBer.

Shouldn't your suspicion be with LaLight over Galz? It's entirely possible LaLight is the scum RBer, and they've been lying about being a SK the entire time. That seems pretty straight forward compared to thinking Galz is scum.

But let's imagine Galz is scum. On Day 2 Galz somehow knew faust (an Alien) was scum and the only way that's possible (without a random guess) is if Galz is also an Alien (No scum investigative roles uncover Aliens, faust had no Watch-able or Track-able ability). The Alien's would've created this plan on Night 1: Galz would claim to have a guilty investigation on faust, faust would then be lynched, and this would result in Galz being "confirmed" as Town. This strategy also requires Galz to be the Bulletproof Alien Lover (guaranteeing them not being night killed).

The problem with all of that is that MiX was apparently not on board with the plan. Go back and look at a few of their posts during Day 2. It should've been really simple, get on faust's lynchwagon as soon as possible, get them lynched. Instead MiX (somewhat weakly) suggested not lynching faust, saying that the Mafia is a bigger threat than the Aliens. How they acted doesn't match with having a master plan.

The problem is that forces another player to be SK, which can’t be Raerae or you, so it has to be Galz... which means Galz is lying.

[Uncleeurope]

So let me try and help you out here. Let’s say you lynch me and I flip Survovor. Who is your number one suspect?

[Brightgalrs]

The problem is that forces another player to be SK, which can’t be Raerae or you, so it has to be Galz... which means Galz is lying.

Actually an additional SK isn't necessary explain the night kills since we now know shraeye was a vigilante the entire time.

So let me try and help you out here. Let’s say you lynch me and I flip Survovor. Who is your number one suspect?

It'd mean LaLight is the roleblocker, so them.

[Uncleeurope]

Oh, then let’s lynch LL first. Like, have you double checked? I had assumed that an SK was necessary for the NKs to line up.

He definitely doesn’t seem to care who dies today.

[A Drowned Kernel]

Vote Count 5.1

Not Voting (5): Brightgalrs, Uncleeurope, Galzria, raerae, LaLight

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day Five ends at 4:00 UTC, 12/11/19.

[raerae]

Do we know there's a roleblocker or do we "know" there's a roleblocker based on the belief that Galz is telling the truth? 

[Uncleeurope]

What we know is either Galz is evil or there is a RBer.

[Brightgalrs]

Oh, then let’s lynch LL first.

Yep, part of me wants to.

Their attempted Night 1 kill I find still find so, so suspicious. There's two unclaimed kills, and they did neither of them? It makes perfect sense if they're really a WW/Mafia and pretending to be a SK.

Then there's the chance that LaLight actually is a SK, but they were never cured last night because of roleblocking shenanigans.

It's also suspicious that they were so gung-ho to lynch raerae, both before Galz revealed his investigation, and earlier when they didn't realize it was a choice between you and them.

On the other hand, LaLight has a chance to be scum and a chance to be Town while you have a chance to be scum and a chance to be a Survivor. The scenarios where LaLight actually is Town are happy and sunshine-filled, while the scenarios where you actually are a Survivor are somewhat grim.

And there's some plausibility-reaching if we assume LaLight is only claiming to be a SK. It's such a risky move to claim to be scum. There could've been an actual SK in the game (cough shraeye cough), who would've killed them immediately, thinking they were lying. The other remaining scum could've not believed them, killed them. Or mail-mi could've been lying the entire time. There would seem like lots that could've go wrong, and it might not have been too clear if the pay-off would been worth it.