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[Witherweaver]

So, if it really is a 3-team scum, Teproc is cleared. 

[Teproc]

Yay, I guess.

[Witherweaver]

Stark QT shares?

[Teproc]

I wasn't chosen because of the roleblock risk, so we went for Ichi. I don't know who he targeted.

[Ichimaru Gin]

I targeted Ashersky again for protection, because I thought WIFOM might point to an Ash nightkill. I guess I miscalculated that one.

[pacovf]

Quite a shame that Voltaire died, but at least Teproc is semi-cleared from this (barring 4-man scumteam).

Let's see what Ash found out (unless he wants to wait again).

[Witherweaver]

Did EgorK say much in QT?

[Teproc]

He said we lynched Hydrad too fast and it was classic town!Hydrad but that we'll probably win anyway.

Then he has a post about the problems with giving me the role (being roleblocked) or giving it to Ichi (there was a concern that he wouldn't be here to submit his order).

That's it.

[XerxesPraelor]

So POE leaves ash, pacovf, and EgorK . Killing Voltaire really makes sense for scum!ash, because that way he can kill ICs with impunity.

vote: ash

[Teproc]

So your theory is that last night ash nokilled and roleblocked Ichi (or whatever else) ?

[XerxesPraelor]

Rolecopped is my guess.

[Teproc]

And you think that's more likely than, say, pacovf being scum ?

You understand that killing Voltaire is the obvious play given that we can trust his results a lot more than ash's. Not only because the way the claims work out, Voltaire was less likely to be scum (and that's not accounting for play), but also because we already have a dead ninja, whereas we could still have a Godfather.

[Teproc]

Well it's the "obvious play" in that it's the kill scum wants. But scum is desperate enough to just not care about who's the most likely to be targeted and just shoot whoever they really want to shoot I think. Which didn't work on N2, but did on N3.

[XerxesPraelor]

Town does have a roleblocker and a doctor along with a tracker, so a cop seems a bit too good if all scum has is a jailkeeper, 1-shot ninja, and godfather.

PPE: so why didn't we follow the cop with Voltaire instead of ash?

[XerxesPraelor]

Pacovf looks quite towny and ash scummy just from gut.

[Teproc]

Maybe we should have. I thought it would be better to WIFOM scum, and it did work in getting us a nokill N2 (well unless you're an ash conspiracy theorist).

Why does pacovf look quite townie ?

[EgorK]

If everyone's scum pool is me, pac and ash we have time to lynch all 3 barring double night kills

[Witherweaver]

Pretty much.

Doesn't take into account Godfather on Robz or Ichi though.

[Ichimaru Gin]

So who are we going to lynch today? And when is it likely that Ash will show up with his result?

[ashersky]

I copped Voltaire, given he kept surviving.  Realm-aligned.

I like XP as scum, have for awhile.  Coming out swinging and voting for the cop is pretty crazy, too.

Remember, with the tracker gone, follow-the-cop is fully on with no need for doc wifom.  They are in a tougher spot now.

[Witherweaver]

I'd lynch Ash before XP here.  Actually, I'd lynch anyone before XP.

[pacovf]

I copped Voltaire, given he kept surviving.  Realm-aligned.

I like XP as scum, have for awhile.  Coming out swinging and voting for the cop is pretty crazy, too.

Remember, with the tracker gone, follow-the-cop is fully on with no need for doc wifom.  They are in a tougher spot now.

If Voltaire had been scum, he would have had to correctly guess who you targeted twice, and the second time he could have pretended to track a VT instead and take no risks. So you knew he was town, unless you want to pretend he was a scum tracker. You copping him makes zero sense.

Scum is not in a tougher spot now than before. We (supposedly) had two investigative PRs, now we only have (supposedly) one. The fact that before they had 50% chance of hitting a PR because of WIFOM, and now 0%, doesn't change that they are better off than before.

Honestly, this first post of you today is strangely self-serving.

I'd lynch Ash before XP here.  Actually, I'd lynch anyone before XP.

Anyone? Even Teproc?

So who are we going to lynch today?

Not Teproc, not witherweaver. Probably not XP or you. The likely lynches today are me and EgorK, but I would take a look at Robz and Ashersky. Neither have done anything that makes me think they are town.

I know what I should do right now, but... will I ever muster the courage to reread this leviathan of a thread?

[ashersky]

If I was scum, I knew somehow who to claim to cop based on Voltaire's QT reveal.  I couldn't know who he would say there.

I should have copped him last night, given he's Voltaire. 

[ashersky]

Also, claiming to have copped Voltaire when he died is weak scum sauce.  I have no need to tell the truth if the tracker can't call me out.  So why wouldn't I just claim a result on anyone else?

[pacovf]

If I was scum, I knew somehow who to claim to cop based on Voltaire's QT reveal.  I couldn't know who he would say there.

I should have copped him last night, given he's Voltaire.

If you are scum, you have a PR and you targeted someone with it. No need to guess.

Also, claiming to have copped Voltaire when he died is weak scum sauce.  I have no need to tell the truth if the tracker can't call me out.  So why wouldn't I just claim a result on anyone else?

If you are the last scum, and you give a result on living people, you have to give a Realm-Aligned result, which will end up shrinking the lynch pool so much that you'll end up lynched. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but definitely the day after. Giving results on dead people doesn't have that problem.