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[Voltaire]

vote: Hydrad

Yeah, we should get this claiming over with. I appreciate being allowed to go last!

PPE: Yay, claiming started! I'll claim immediately after ash, I promise.

[Teproc]

Well then. I guess my insistence in having you claim will look bad.

3 and 4 are basically not worth talking about. Obviously I now know it's 2, but you guys don't. This should be interesting, as I doubt ash or Volt targeted me...

[pacovf]

You are forgetting

(3.5) Ichimaru Gin is scum.

But (3) and (3.5) are basically included in (4), they are just the most likely possibilities if (4) is true. Not shooting doesn't frame anyone in as much as it gives towncred to people.

PPE : yeah, (3) and (4) are not worth talking about today.

[Hydrad]

Hmm I guess theres a chance it could be teproc? I will say that we didn't vote for hand of the king until the 24 hours had passed so that even if scum was in the room they wouldn't know who was the hand of the king. During the first 24 hours though It looked like teproc had a decently high chance of being hand of the king again so maybe he thought he could snipe ash or someone if he got the king?

I don't think its very likely though. Just thoughts

PPE:2

[Hydrad]

also I'm still town!

[pacovf]

I will say that we didn't vote for hand of the king until the 24 hours had passed so that even if scum was in the room they wouldn't know who was the hand of the king.

Fair point! I forgot about that. Remove (3.5), it doesn't really make much sense.

[Witherweaver]

Hmm I guess theres a chance it could be teproc? I will say that we didn't vote for hand of the king until the 24 hours had passed so that even if scum was in the room they wouldn't know who was the hand of the king. During the first 24 hours though It looked like teproc had a decently high chance of being hand of the king again so maybe he thought he could snipe ash or someone if he got the king?

I don't think its very likely though. Just thoughts

PPE:2

Huh?  I thought you had to vote in the first 24 hours?

[Teproc]

Nope. Night actions deadline is 24 hours but house action deadline is 48.

[Hydrad]

Also if its me thats scum that means that I would of had to target ash for the kill. (or no kill but in my situation thats even more of a death sentence. Some small WIFOM wouldn't save me at this point). In the QT last night I was really pushing a protect ash movement for our king. Why would I try to force people to protect ash and the target him right away. That would mean that I'm just playing a super poor game.

PPE:3

[Voltaire]

If you didn't vote in time, then nobody was Hand of the King/nobody had strongman. Can you check with faust if your action was strongman?

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

vote: Teproc

[pacovf]

First 48 hours for votes. PRs in first 24 hours. Teproc was the one that pointed it out in the QT.

PPE 3

[Teproc]

I only realized this in N2, we didn't do that on N1 btw. But any future house powers should always wait 24 hours before voting.

PPE : Yeah you were saying doctoring ash was obvious and necessary, which would be a great way to emphasize the WIFOM were you scum.

[Teproc]

If you didn't vote in time, then nobody was Hand of the King/nobody had strongman. Can you check with faust if your action was strongman?

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

vote: Teproc

Tu quoque ?

You really think it's more likely that I was roleblocked than *anyone else* tried to kill ash ?

[pacovf]

Also if its me thats scum that means that I would of had to target ash for the kill. (or no kill but in my situation thats even more of a death sentence. Some small WIFOM wouldn't save me at this point). In the QT last night I was really pushing a protect ash movement for our king. Why would I try to force people to protect ash and the target him right away. That would mean that I'm just playing a super poor game.

PPE:3

No. You were saying that protecting Ash was the obvious choice, and that if Ash died during N2, we should lynch our doctor just in case. That sounds to me like a desperate gambit to get a two for one if our doctor chose to protect Voltaire.

PPE 2

[pacovf]

Still prefer lynching Hydrad to Teproc. Hydrad targeting Ash makes sense, and his play has been overall scummy. Teproc has played a flawless town game. Don't want to lynch him today just because he was roleblocked.

[pacovf]

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

Wait what? Why? Remember what happened yesterday, when you were pushing Hydrad instead of silver? 

[Hydrad]

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

Wait what? Why? Remember what happened yesterday, when you were pushing Hydrad instead of silver? 

Its because of my impeccable towny play!

[pacovf]

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

Wait what? Why? Remember what happened yesterday, when you were pushing Hydrad instead of silver? 

Its because of my impeccable towny play!

I like this guy 

[Voltaire]

You really think it's more likely that I was roleblocked than *anyone else* tried to kill ash ?

No.

[Teproc]

You really think it's more likely that I was roleblocked than *anyone else* tried to kill ash ?

No.

Why are you voting for me then ?

[Voltaire]

Also if its me thats scum that means that I would of had to target ash for the kill. (or no kill but in my situation thats even more of a death sentence. Some small WIFOM wouldn't save me at this point). In the QT last night I was really pushing a protect ash movement for our king. Why would I try to force people to protect ash and the target him right away. That would mean that I'm just playing a super poor game.

PPE:3

No. You were saying that protecting Ash was the obvious choice, and that if Ash died during N2, we should lynch our doctor just in case. That sounds to me like a desperate gambit to get a two for one if our doctor chose to protect Voltaire.

PPE 2

Oh really! Which is it?

[Voltaire]

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

Wait what? Why? Remember what happened yesterday, when you were pushing Hydrad instead of silver? 

And I was wrong? What about it?

[pacovf]

unvote I forgot I don't think it's Hydrad.

Wait what? Why? Remember what happened yesterday, when you were pushing Hydrad instead of silver? 

And I was wrong? What about it?

That you haven't explained your change of heart on Hydrad.

[Voltaire]

You really think it's more likely that I was roleblocked than *anyone else* tried to kill ash ?

No.

Why are you voting for me then ?

Because we have time to check this.

Still waiting on ash's claim, and (believe it or not!) my result is probably affecting how I think.

[Voltaire]

That you haven't explained your change of heart on Hydrad.

It's easy. It depends on the position of the stars in the sky when you ask me about Hydrad.

I have a strong gut town read and a strong evidence scum read. This is pretty clear pretty much the whole game.