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[Robz888]

WHy don't you explain again what you did. You tried to move into Baratheon and now have no House, correct?

[Witherweaver]

This is silly, though.  Even if what Pacovf did was no pro-town, how is it pro-scum?

[pacovf]

Fine.

If everyone followed Voltaire's plan, during N2 the situation would be the following:

Targ:
-Voltaire,
-Robz888
-XerxesPraelor
-witherweaver

Stark:
-Teproc
-pacovf
-Hydrad
-EgorK
-Ichimaru Gin

Houseless:
-Ashersky

However, there was no way to know whether Ash was really houseless, or if he moved to Baratheon during the night. If he didn't move, house Baratheon perished. If he did move, he would be stuck in Baratheon, because it was his last move. So I stayed in Stark during N2, to ensure that Baratheon died if everything went according to plan.

To test whether Ashersky indeed stayed houseless, I decided to move to Baratheon at the beginning of D3. If Ashersky had followed the plan, I would become houseless, and no harm done to anyone. If Ashersky had saved Baratheon, I would join him in the House, and reveal his move to everyone. In both cases, there was no way I could use the Baratheon house power, because I would have reached the house after the night phase, and left before the next night phase (I am waiting for a consensus about which house I should move to now). So I couldn't possibly get any advantage from this move as scum.

[Witherweaver]

There's no reason to lynch Pac today.

Pac, you've only moved once, right?

Require that he move back to either Stark or Targ and if he doesn't, lynch him tomorrow.  Unless Volt is scum, or it's an Ash/Pac team, no one can be primed yet.

[Hydrad]

someone could be primed... Volt was elected the house and he may have decided to prime someone.

[pacovf]

There's no reason to lynch Pac today.

Pac, you've only moved once, right?

Require that he move back to either Stark or Targ and if he doesn't, lynch him tomorrow.  Unless Volt is scum, or it's an Ash/Pac team, no one can be primed yet.

I agree with this, and I will move wherever people tell me to.
Although Volt could have primed someone even as town, judging from what he was saying during D1's twilight, but that's irrelevant unless Ash and I are both scum.

[Witherweaver]

I'm assuming town!Volt would not do Prime someone...

[Hydrad]

I'm assuming town!Volt would not do Prime someone...

really? Why not? If I was elected I might of. Isn't it like a town vig if he primes someone?

[Witherweaver]

I'm assuming town!Volt would not do Prime someone...

really? Why not? If I was elected I might of. Isn't it like a town vig if he primes someone?

Town vigs should almost never shoot Night 1*, and not really, no, because we don't know what's going to happen in the future or who will be in control.


What was Baratheon empowerment again?

*Or ever, according to Robz.

[Voltaire]

Null at worst on pacofv's move, he's a bad lynch today, I still think he's more likely town.

[Voltaire]

What was Baratheon empowerment again?

Strongman ignition.

[Witherweaver]

Did you admit whether or not you Primed someone?  Would you like to, here or in QT?

[XerxesPraelor]

Ash, claim your result please. It would be useful to have a result here.

[XerxesPraelor]

We can assume you checked someone suspicious and so it would be a good thing to take one person off the list.

[faust]

Vote Count 3.1

pacovf (2): ashersky, Robz888

Not Voting (8): pacovf, Hydrad, Witherweaver, Teproc, XerxesPraelor, EgorK, Ichimaru Gin, Voltaire

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day 3 ends October 5 at 6 pm.

[Teproc]

I actually agree with XP. I don't see what's accomplished by withholding results here.

[Voltaire]

I actually agree with XP. I don't see what's accomplished by withholding results here.

I do!

[Teproc]

I actually agree with XP. I don't see what's accomplished by withholding results here.

I do!

Do you also think there's a point in withholding a Cop result ? Tracker I can see, Cop less so.

[Teproc]

Mostly it's that I don't want to reread this thread mltilple times, so I'd rather have the most info when I do that.

[pacovf]

Mostly it's that I don't want to reread this thread mltilple times, so I'd rather have the most info when I do that.

Tesenseroc.

Also, if you are waiting for people to do stuff before claiming your results, and people are waiting for your results to do stuff, we aren't getting anything done.

[Voltaire]

I actually agree with XP. I don't see what's accomplished by withholding results here.

I do!

Do you also think there's a point in withholding a Cop result ? Tracker I can see, Cop less so.

Cop result, yes, if it's an Innocent on someone we're considering lynching.

[Teproc]

Oh, and what about the Targ roleblocker ?

[Voltaire]

Flash poll: do you think the game would be balanced if there were four scum?

Newsflash: silver made a twilight post in the Baratheon QT saying (paraphrased): "Everything I said in-thread is true."

We can react to these while we wait.

[pacovf]

Flash poll: do you think the game would be balanced if there were four scum?

Depends on the powers of those scum, but I don't have enough experience to say. I don't think it would be far-fetched, though.

Newsflash: silver made a twilight post in the Baratheon QT saying (paraphrased): "Everything I said in-thread is true."

I wouldn't listen to a single thing silverspawn said after he got lynched. That way lies madness.

[Teproc]

Flash poll: do you think the game would be balanced if there were four scum?

Newsflash: silver made a twilight post in the Baratheon QT saying (paraphrased): "Everything I said in-thread is true."

We can react to these while we wait.

Right, there's that (the four scum theory). In separate scumteams, sure, but we have some evidence of there being only one, so I don't think so. 4-man scumteam is really strong.

The thing is, what does town have here ? A negative utility VT, a Tracker and a Cop. Both strong powers for sure, but then do you count the houses as pro-town or anti-town ?

I think houses ended up being pro-town this game, but maybe if we had chosen to empower Lannister it would hav ebeen a disaster, I don't know.

So basically my answer is that I think there's only one scum left.

As far as silver goes... sigh.