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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1700 on: August 05, 2013, 12:44:05 pm »

I regret nothing about my claim getting me lynched, from my point of view, it outed a scum (Liopoil) at the cost of one mislynch (me), and it makes Jimmm, Mcmc, and Chairs seem very towny, and has a really good chance of nailing who I think is the last scum. I'd say that's worth it!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1701 on: August 05, 2013, 12:50:41 pm »

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liopoil (1): Twistedarcher
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With 7 alive it takes 4 to lynch.
Day4 will end on August 15 at 9 am forum time.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1702 on: August 05, 2013, 01:08:52 pm »

Hrm, actually, we have until the 15th to decide?

Let's lynch vote: liopoil instead then.  I want to know everybody's thoughts on this, except TA (I already know your opinion, and I think we're on the same page about what's up here).

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1703 on: August 05, 2013, 02:13:29 pm »

No, I believe Liopoil waaay more than I believe TA. TA's theoretical scenario is great however the fact remains I doubt liopoil has made a large mistake as scum and I think TA simply claimed to attempt to out liopoil before the no lynch and get him killed.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1704 on: August 05, 2013, 02:16:27 pm »

I think Liopoil really screwed himself with his softclaim D3, and Ashersky told him N3 "No, you softclaimed, you must hardclaim now, otherwise they will believe TA is town and we will both get lynched"
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1705 on: August 05, 2013, 02:17:51 pm »

From scum's perspective, it made sense to either kill or, or to counterclaim today. But it didn't make sense to do both.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1706 on: August 05, 2013, 02:21:10 pm »

If Ash is town, he's VT. Yet he immediately came out disbelieving my claim, which was different than every other VT in the game. His reaction was different from each VT because he's scum!
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1707 on: August 05, 2013, 02:24:41 pm »

Yup, I'm your last PR, folks. will give my results and stuff before we lynch TA. spoiler: they're somewhat useful!  Vote: TwistedArcher.

let's see these, btw.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1708 on: August 05, 2013, 02:30:15 pm »

No, I believe Liopoil waaay more than I believe TA. TA's theoretical scenario is great however the fact remains I doubt liopoil has made a large mistake as scum and I think TA simply claimed to attempt to out liopoil before the no lynch and get him killed.

vote: twisted archer

Like you said, I was winning the argument. What incentive did scum! TA have to claim there?

You are saying that you don't think lio would make a large mistake as scum, but you are saying that I made an even larger mistake as scum.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1709 on: August 05, 2013, 02:56:13 pm »

I think scum!TA decided he was losing the argument against ash and you were worried you might get lynch first today. If that happened scum was in a baaad spot because ash would be really towny(part of the reason I though you could both be scum)

Even if you got ash lynched you would go right after, and one for one is good for town. I think scum!TA tried to get liopoil to claim yesterday so that you could kill him during the night and we wouldn't get any info. That would be a win for scum!TA I think you and your partner made the minor mistake of not killing liopoil because you thought you could get him lynched today(oh btw I bet chairs is your partner)

All of that is good attempts at some different scum strategies that if I'm right just didn't work out for you. If you are out town PR and accurately got into a argument with scum making the two of you a 1 for 1 trade, scum!liopoil actively destroyed any chance scum had whatsoever of winning. I doubt that happened.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1710 on: August 05, 2013, 03:28:19 pm »

chairs, why are you voting for me? this one seems to be an easy call to me.

N1 chairs was my top suspect. however, I knew that to get a guilty result I have to target the player that does the kill. If chairs is scum, I reasoned, then he probably won't do the kill, I'd have the least suspected scum do the kill, and it would be better to investigate him the next night. Yes, psychologist was possible, however, you can make someone psychologist-immune, but once the detective can get you, he can get you forever. At that point, my top suspect who others didn't suspect as much was raerae. I investigated raerae N1, but she did not do the kill. oh well. this didn't really effect my read on her much though, as she could easily not have done the kill that night.

N2 chairs was still my top suspect, and this time I thought he probably would have done a kill, so I investigated him. has not killed result again, so big townread on him, but he could be scum

N3 I knew TA was scum, so I looked for his partner. I was kinda unsure on this one. I thought about looking at raeare again, but decided against it. I decided to look at mcmcsalot because I had suspicions on him awhile ago but had kinda forgotten about it. so I think he's town too. (I got a has not killed result again). So I actually think that Jimmmmm is most likely to be TA's partner, or maybe ashersky, but probably not.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1711 on: August 05, 2013, 03:43:36 pm »

chairs, why are you voting for me? this one seems to be an easy call to me.

N1 chairs was my top suspect. however, I knew that to get a guilty result I have to target the player that does the kill. If chairs is scum, I reasoned, then he probably won't do the kill, I'd have the least suspected scum do the kill, and it would be better to investigate him the next night. Yes, psychologist was possible, however, you can make someone psychologist-immune, but once the detective can get you, he can get you forever. At that point, my top suspect who others didn't suspect as much was raerae. I investigated raerae N1, but she did not do the kill. oh well. this didn't really effect my read on her much though, as she could easily not have done the kill that night.

N2 chairs was still my top suspect, and this time I thought he probably would have done a kill, so I investigated him. has not killed result again, so big townread on him, but he could be scum

N3 I knew TA was scum, so I looked for his partner. I was kinda unsure on this one. I thought about looking at raeare again, but decided against it. I decided to look at mcmcsalot because I had suspicions on him awhile ago but had kinda forgotten about it. so I think he's town too. (I got a has not killed result again). So I actually think that Jimmmmm is most likely to be TA's partner, or maybe ashersky, but probably not.

Because how I vote will influence how others vote, and I am scumhunting.  I firmly believe if I am not NK'd tonight I will successfully deduce the scumteam.  We know that EITHER you or TA is scum, and our trouble is determining (out of the 5 of us who remain) who's the last scum.  More reactions gives me more to play with, and since I know I'm town, that means I'm only picking between 4 people and that one of those 4 people is going to be very, very worried about slipping up right now.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1712 on: August 05, 2013, 03:44:50 pm »

But tell you what, to make things really entertaining, unbote.

Intent to hammer, after reasonable discussion, whomever we decide as a group is the appropriate lynch.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1713 on: August 05, 2013, 03:45:14 pm »

christ, I can't type.

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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1714 on: August 05, 2013, 03:45:49 pm »

Wait for Raerae to come back and weigh in today, please
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1715 on: August 05, 2013, 03:46:44 pm »

Lio's trying to WIFOM that Raerae could be his partner, when in actuality it's Ash.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1716 on: August 05, 2013, 05:46:14 pm »

I'm back.

TA has a faulty line of reasoning.  I was right about him all along, btw.  Listen to me next time.

Scum took a huge risk leaving him alive if he's real.  No reason to.  Zero.  If TA was telling the truth, scum NKs him, then you all lynch me pretty easily.  Why wouldn't scum take that option? 

We have to lynch the counter claimed liar.  If lio is lying (doubt it highly), he's lynched tomorrow.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1717 on: August 05, 2013, 05:46:53 pm »

Lio's trying to WIFOM that Raerae could be his partner, when in actuality it's Ash.

Your tunneling just sounds silly now.  This is already-hammered scum rambling.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1718 on: August 05, 2013, 05:47:17 pm »

christ, I can't type.

unvote

intent to hammer.

It is time.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1719 on: August 05, 2013, 05:48:04 pm »

Partner may be unlikely to bus here...dire times for scum.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1720 on: August 05, 2013, 05:50:42 pm »

christ, I can't type.

unvote

intent to hammer.

It is time.

Wouldn't you like to hear from Raerae, just in case you're wrong? (and you are). I know I wouldn't like it if I missed an entire day cause I wasn't on the computer, and I doubt she would, either. At the very least we owe her that courtesy.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1721 on: August 05, 2013, 05:52:32 pm »

christ, I can't type.

unvote

intent to hammer.

It is time.

Wouldn't you like to hear from Raerae, just in case you're wrong? (and you are). I know I wouldn't like it if I missed an entire day cause I wasn't on the computer, and I doubt she would, either. At the very least we owe her that courtesy.

Not particularly.  She'd hammer you, no matter her alignment.  Of that I'm sure.

Not much here to comment on, plus we get long twilights.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1722 on: August 05, 2013, 05:54:36 pm »

That's true, I fully expect her to hammer me. But I think it's a good policy, regardless, to not end days before everyone's had a chance to check in.

I really hope you're scum...I trust my reads, but if I was wrong on you, I cost town the game :/
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1723 on: August 05, 2013, 06:57:16 pm »

That's true, I fully expect her to hammer me. But I think it's a good policy, regardless, to not end days before everyone's had a chance to check in.

I really hope you're scum...I trust my reads, but if I was wrong on you, I cost town the game :/

TA, you are wrong, and you know you are wrong, because you are scum and know I'm town.

Still, nice try.  I appreciate bold scum play, as seen by my own.

I will admit, if you are somehow not lying, even after we lynch liopoil tomorrow, we're in a tough spot.

I am pretty sure I know who your partner is, though.
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Re: MXXVII: CLUE Mafia Day4
« Reply #1724 on: August 05, 2013, 07:00:08 pm »

If raerae has not had opportunity to post by the time I get home from work, it's hammerin' time (assuming we're at L-1).
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