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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #75 on: June 26, 2014, 09:56:10 pm »

My point is, this set up is very simple, we can't really guess what PRs we have (besides IC obviously) and claiming only makes their PRs better. And yeah, what scott points out is true, but scott's comment is both fairly obvious when you read the setup and kind of pointless to point out at this point in the game.

I was just pointing out what I had noticed, maybe the bigger picture is, we know what happened with 2 of our 6 rolls.  It's not helpful now but maybe something to keep in mind later.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #76 on: June 26, 2014, 10:32:10 pm »

My point is, this set up is very simple, we can't really guess what PRs we have (besides IC obviously) and claiming only makes their PRs better. And yeah, what scott points out is true, but scott's comment is both fairly obvious when you read the setup and kind of pointless to point out at this point in the game.

I haven't read through it, but regardless, all knowledge is good knowledge.  There's no reason not to point something like that out, and even less (than no?) reason to reprimand someone for doing so.

I mean basically I disagree.  Nothing wrong with Scott saying this, and now is a better time to point it out than later. 
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #77 on: June 26, 2014, 10:32:49 pm »

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #78 on: June 27, 2014, 12:16:27 am »

My point is, this set up is very simple, we can't really guess what PRs we have (besides IC obviously) and claiming only makes their PRs better. And yeah, what scott points out is true, but scott's comment is both fairly obvious when you read the setup and kind of pointless to point out at this point in the game.

I haven't read through it, but regardless, all knowledge is good knowledge.  There's no reason not to point something like that out, and even less (than no?) reason to reprimand someone for doing so.

I mean basically I disagree.  Nothing wrong with Scott saying this, and now is a better time to point it out than later.

Complete agreement with WW. Yeah, let's not mass claim, but nobody proposed that. Setup discussion paranoia vexes me even more than actual setup discussion, although I don't know that either thing is actually scummy.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #79 on: June 27, 2014, 12:31:01 am »

I am the IC! Here me roar!

Hehehe... robz is totally so super scummy! hehehe... Hey ash! vote for me! Ha! Hehehe...

being an IC is fun!

PS: I am busy on vacation... don't do stupid things, I'll be back to see how I want to play as IC later, just go about like normal for now!
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #80 on: June 27, 2014, 02:42:43 am »

Wow, yuma as IC is great! That probably means two Ms, right?

Also vote: Witherweaver worked well in the past.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #81 on: June 27, 2014, 03:54:11 am »

Since we have an IC that means we rolled at least 2 M's (either 2 or 4), so mafia has at least a 1-shot strongman and a roleblocker?

Another way to put it (the better way) is we are guaranteed not to be facing the Goon-Goon-Godfather setup.  Otherwise, all mixes are in play (4 Ts or less).

Whoever said no theory talk is basically right.  Masons should think about what it means that they exist.  Other PRs can think about setup.  No one should talk about it, though, because it may give away that you have more info, which means you might be targeted as a PR.

Basically, vote: mom salon.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #82 on: June 27, 2014, 07:21:26 am »

Wow, yuma as IC is great! That probably means two Ms, right?

Also vote: Witherweaver worked well in the past.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia - Day 1 is underway !
« Reply #83 on: June 27, 2014, 08:37:38 am »

Vote Count 1.2:

A Drowned Kernel (4) : scott_pilgrim, chairs, Witherweaver, azadin
Witherweaver (2) : sudgy, faust
scott_pilgrim (1) : A Drowned Kernel

Not Voting (5) : yuma, ashersky, Robz888, EgorK, mcmcsalot

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 1 ends at 07:00 p.m. on July 4, 2014.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #84 on: June 27, 2014, 10:10:23 am »

Hehe I don't know what makes me happier that ash brought back mom salon or that teproc has no idea it's me.

On helpful news, I agree with robz and ash and like that Yuma is ic, do not want to lynch there, two newbies Azadin and egork, barring super scummyness don't want to lynch there.

Faust, Adk, ww, chairs, scott, sudgy

Scott and ww both posted helpful stuff that I agreed with

Adk's over cautiousness is scummy(robz mentioned). Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sudgy why the change to ww, the Scott vote seemed random enough, so a quick random change makes no sense.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #85 on: June 27, 2014, 10:23:10 am »

"Mom salon" does not fit my definition of an "obvious nickname", as many people here would have no idea what it's referring to.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #86 on: June 27, 2014, 10:33:43 am »

"Mom salon" does not fit my definition of an "obvious nickname", as many people here would have no idea what it's referring to.


I, for example, had NO idea who that referenced until the below quote.

Hehe I don't know what makes me happier that ash brought back mom salon or that teproc has no idea it's me.

On helpful news, I agree with robz and ash and like that Yuma is ic, do not want to lynch there, two newbies Azadin and egork, barring super scummyness don't want to lynch there.

Faust, Adk, ww, chairs, scott, sudgy

Scott and ww both posted helpful stuff that I agreed with

Adk's over cautiousness is scummy(robz mentioned). Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sudgy why the change to ww, the Scott vote seemed random enough, so a quick random change makes no sense.

Hi chairs!

Hey mcmc!

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Honestly still happy with my vote at the moment, I think the "let's blitz-lynch" move was scummy.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #87 on: June 27, 2014, 10:42:45 am »

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sorry, I did not read thoroughly. Yeah, I can't figure out what to post as well, this game has too little theory for me and now I don't really get into the game :(

I'm not scummy scum scum though.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #88 on: June 27, 2014, 11:24:13 am »

Are we out of RVS yet?

vote: ADK (L-2)
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #89 on: June 27, 2014, 11:39:19 am »

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sorry, I did not read thoroughly. Yeah, I can't figure out what to post as well, this game has too little theory for me and now I don't really get into the game :(

I'm not scummy scum scum though.

Here's something to theorize about:  Is ADK's blitz lynch request as his first post a pro-scum or pro-town move?  How about the people who have piled on to either scott or himself?  Does the order of the votes matter?  Lots of interaction in relation to that to look at and dissect, if not Today than Tomorrow.

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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #90 on: June 27, 2014, 11:55:05 am »

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sorry, I did not read thoroughly. Yeah, I can't figure out what to post as well, this game has too little theory for me and now I don't really get into the game :(

I'm not scummy scum scum though.

Here's something to theorize about:  Is ADK's blitz lynch request as his first post a pro-scum or pro-town move?  How about the people who have piled on to either scott or himself?  Does the order of the votes matter?  Lots of interaction in relation to that to look at and dissect, if not Today than Tomorrow.

Last time I saw Blitz wagons was in Greater Idea.  I think everyone advocating them there was town, but I'd have to go back and check.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #91 on: June 27, 2014, 12:59:28 pm »

Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

I felt like it.

Are we out of RVS yet?

vote: ADK (L-2)

I would say so.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #92 on: June 27, 2014, 01:07:36 pm »

Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

I felt like it.

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If this is all you can give me I am asserting intent to L-1 once Yuma has at least confirmed he has read everything and he doesn't scream no

I mean I'm not suggesting you have to have had a master plan, but you gotta be able to give me what went through your head, no one makes a post with zero though or because they felt like it.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #93 on: June 27, 2014, 01:09:03 pm »

Fixed
Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

I felt like it.


If this is all you can give me I am asserting intent to L-1 once Yuma has at least confirmed he has read everything and he doesn't scream no

I mean I'm not suggesting you have to have had a master plan, but you gotta be able to give me what went through your head, no one makes a post with zero though or because they felt like it.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #94 on: June 27, 2014, 01:11:06 pm »

Faust, Scott already said wha you said in your post, did you miss it or feel like saying it anyway because you can't figure anything else out to post you scummy scum scum(that got out of hand)

Sorry, I did not read thoroughly. Yeah, I can't figure out what to post as well, this game has too little theory for me and now I don't really get into the game :(

I'm not scummy scum scum though.

Here's something to theorize about:  Is ADK's blitz lynch request as his first post a pro-scum or pro-town move?  How about the people who have piled on to either scott or himself?  Does the order of the votes matter?  Lots of interaction in relation to that to look at and dissect, if not Today than Tomorrow.

Why just post "look at all this stuff that happened, we should discuss it sometime" rather than discussing it yourself?
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #95 on: June 27, 2014, 01:13:50 pm »


Why just post "look at all this stuff that happened, we should discuss it sometime" rather than discussing it yourself?

My bad, you did address it.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #96 on: June 27, 2014, 01:46:35 pm »

I thought a blitz lynch, and people's reactions for and against it, would be interesting and informative. And hey's, it's apparently happening to me, so I guess I got my wish.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #97 on: June 27, 2014, 01:53:33 pm »

Fixed
Adk what was your reason for the blitz wagon?

I felt like it.


If this is all you can give me I am asserting intent to L-1 once Yuma has at least confirmed he has read everything and he doesn't scream no

I mean I'm not suggesting you have to have had a master plan, but you gotta be able to give me what went through your head, no one makes a post with zero though or because they felt like it.

Uh, I'm screaming no, I don't care what yuma says. Accidents can happen!
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #98 on: June 27, 2014, 03:09:59 pm »

I saw ADK's blitz wagon as RVS.  I jumped on for fun, then jumped to WW as part of RVS as well, so yeah.

Vote: EgorK for bringing ADK to L-2.  He didn't even really give a reason.  I've also never really liked "Are we out of RVS yet?" posts.
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Re: M46 : Homeland Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #99 on: June 27, 2014, 03:20:32 pm »

Stop even saying the word RVS. No one ever mention it ever again ever at any point in any game. Thanks.
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