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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #175 on: December 20, 2014, 05:06:23 am »

More stuff needs to be happening. Deadline is December 27, which is pretty awful. We have like 3, maybe 4 days time, and then it will probably be very hard to keep people posting.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #176 on: December 20, 2014, 06:28:19 am »

vote: Joseph

This should be in bold, assuming you want to vote for me.
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« Reply #177 on: December 20, 2014, 06:31:02 am »

vote: Joseph

This should be in bold, assuming you want to vote for me.

all of my votes this game have been equally valid

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #178 on: December 20, 2014, 06:31:43 am »

faust's vote for sudgy is a little odd, and I don't like that he doesn't like the chairs lynch. People should like the chairs lynch. It's a good lynch.

Are you able to give any reasons?

His reactions on the flavour things seemed scummy. Also, he voted for himself, I find this weird, and could be a scum double-bluff?
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #179 on: December 20, 2014, 07:08:09 am »

vote: Joseph

This should be in bold, assuming you want to vote for me.

all of my votes this game have been equally valid

I.e. you've been trying to look active but not actually saying anything useful. Granted, that's not how you played the Fish Mafia as scum, but it's still scummy.

His reactions on the flavour things seemed scummy. Also, he voted for himself, I find this weird, and could be a scum double-bluff?

I think it's basically just a joke.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #180 on: December 20, 2014, 09:01:38 am »

His reactions on the flavour things seemed scummy. Also, he voted for himself, I find this weird, and could be a scum double-bluff?

Please expand. How did his reaction seem scummy? Why was it something that scum would do? Why is voting for yourself scummy?
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #181 on: December 20, 2014, 09:10:20 am »

Let's play "reduce the lynch pool"!

A Drowned Kernel
Joseph2302
faust - me
Awaclus - activity pass
silverspawn
sudgy
Witherweaver - not someone I want to lynch D1
Hydrad
EgorK
chairs - for once, I don't have a scum read on him. And he seems like today's "easy mislynch", which I don't like.
Seprix - newbie pass, plus his play seems genuine
Ashersky - ashersky is good to have around, and has been townie enough so far.

Well, that's down to half of the players, not too bad. I really have no feeling whatsoever towards Egor, Hydrad, sudgy. These people need to post more of substance.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #182 on: December 20, 2014, 09:26:56 am »

faust's vote for sudgy is a little odd, and I don't like that he doesn't like the chairs lynch. People should like the chairs lynch. It's a good lynch.

Are you able to give any reasons?

When ash accused him of "scumslipping", he acted guilty. When I said "I would have found OMGUSing to be a townier reaction, he voted for ash for all of one post, then retracted it right away. He's made zero posts that give actual reads of anyone or advanced the game in any way.
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« Reply #183 on: December 20, 2014, 09:29:45 am »

I'd say that the way that chairs reacted to the whole thing absolutely speaks to his alignment, and that he's scummy as hell. Especially voting for ash after I said I would have found OMGUS to be a towny reaction.

I agree, and it's basically the only actual information we have at this point. Except for Seprix putting Ashersky on L-1, which I still think could be a newbie error. Therefore, Vote: chairs.

Faust, this is how. Especially voting for ashersky (reply #99), which put him to L-2.
Before someone argues "you voted for ashersky too", I did, but at the time, it seemed like 1 of us was scum (due to the Yule Ham thing), so my vote made sense, also it put him at like L-3 or L-4, which is safe. Chairs' vote didn't from a town point of view, seems like he may have wanted a quick lynch. He hasn't done anything else

Also, I'm not 100% convinced by chairs voting himself. I did it as town in M53, but it seemed to cause me more trouble than help. Still thinking it could be a double-bluff (although this part of the evidence is weak).

PPE: I know some of this overlaps with what ADK has just written, he posted whilst i was writing, and I agree.

My lynch pool (in no particular order):
A Drowned Kernel - posts seem towny, he warned us about Ashersky being L-1.
Joseph2302- me
faust - looks to me wanting more information/discussion, which is a good town thing.
Awaclus - activity enough to seem townie
silverspawn - not sure why he's voting for me, not getting a town read on him
sudgy - not enough posts to get real sense
Witherweaver - some posts, not getting a real scum sense from them.
Hydrad - not many posts, lurky scum perhaps?
EgorK - not many posts, lurky scum perhaps?
chairs - see above
Seprix - his questions seem genuine newbie, and not scum hiding. Ashersky L-1 seems like a newbie mistake.
Ashersky - ashersky seems pretty townie
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« Reply #184 on: December 20, 2014, 09:33:18 am »

Calling scum teams day one is silly but if I had to guess it right now my guess would be chairs/faust/Silverspawn, and I'm okay lynching all those people right now.
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« Reply #185 on: December 20, 2014, 09:40:08 am »

Calling scum teams day one is silly but if I had to guess it right now my guess would be chairs/faust/Silverspawn, and I'm okay lynching all those people right now.

Interesting, mine would probably be chairs/silverspawn/lurker (sudgy/Hydrad/Egor). I think lynching any on my lynch list would be okay right now, although there's still a few days for people to become townier.

Saying that, I seem to often think lurker = scum, and it's not always the case.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #186 on: December 20, 2014, 10:04:45 am »

what? I'm not scum.

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« Reply #187 on: December 20, 2014, 10:05:32 am »

vote: A drowned Joseph

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #188 on: December 20, 2014, 10:06:33 am »

what? I'm not scum.

Can you provide more details on why you think I'm scum then?
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #189 on: December 20, 2014, 10:12:46 am »

Calling scum teams day one is silly but if I had to guess it right now my guess would be chairs/faust/Silverspawn, and I'm okay lynching all those people right now.

You're right, it's silly.

I think it's unlikely that ADK and Joseph have the same alignment.
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« Reply #190 on: December 20, 2014, 10:25:00 am »

what? I'm not scum.

Can you provide more details on why you think I'm scum then?

asd vote: Joseph

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« Reply #191 on: December 20, 2014, 11:20:20 am »

Yeah, I think vote: Joseph is not at all the worst course of action.
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« Reply #192 on: December 20, 2014, 11:36:02 am »

I'm positive Sudgy and Faust are both scum for sure based on that one Sudgy post.
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« Reply #193 on: December 20, 2014, 11:37:19 am »

Mod: Vote Count

Let's see where everyone stands as of right now.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #194 on: December 20, 2014, 12:15:02 pm »

A shocked silence fell over the crowd.  How could anyone want to ruin Christmas?  It seemed unfathomable.  Chaos erupted.  No one had a plan.  Accusations began flowing as freely as the spiked apple cider. 

Vote Count 1.3

ashersky (1) : Hydrad
chairs (3) : A Drowned Kernel, Joseph2302, sudgy
A Drowned Kernel (1) : Witherweaver
Joseph2302 (2) : ashersky, faust
sudgy (1) : Seprix
seprix (2) : EgorK, Awaclus

Not Voting (2): silverspawn, chairs

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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #195 on: December 20, 2014, 02:59:53 pm »

yay for stuff happening!

I like Vote: Joseph after rereading the past page.

Also silver when do you plan on actually voting :P

I'm missing how everyone is saying chairs is scummy. Feels more like chairs is just kinda having fun this game. Which is easier to do as town then as scum in my opinion.
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« Reply #196 on: December 20, 2014, 03:07:40 pm »

yay for stuff happening!

I like Vote: Joseph after rereading the past page.

Also silver when do you plan on actually voting :P

I'm missing how everyone is saying chairs is scummy. Feels more like chairs is just kinda having fun this game. Which is easier to do as town then as scum in my opinion.

I think playing scum is super fun. That's why I have to get creative when I'm town, like now, to keep stuff interesting.

Also silver when do you plan on actually voting :P
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« Reply #197 on: December 20, 2014, 03:26:13 pm »

I swear,if Sudgy ends up becoming a freaking scum, I'm blaming all you guys.
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« Reply #198 on: December 20, 2014, 04:32:27 pm »

Not sure why people think I'm so scummy. chairs does seem like a possibly obvious mislynch, but there's not a good alternative. silverspawn is definitely being confusing, not sure whether it's scummy or just silly. There's not too much to go on, but could be a scum option.
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Re: M55: Mafia Holiday! - Day 1 - PM for speccy
« Reply #199 on: December 20, 2014, 05:01:03 pm »

Yeah, I think vote: Joseph is not at all the worst course of action.

yay for stuff happening!

I like Vote: Joseph after rereading the past page.

Why? I don't think anyone has been very towny so far, so I'm not really against lynching anyone at this point, but when one player pseudo-votes for someone without actually voting for them or giving any reasons for it and then immediately there are two others who somehow just agree with that and actually vote too, it feels pretty weird. I would be inclined to say that silverspawn plays scum better than this, so mostly his pseudo-voting just annoys me rather than makes me think he's scum, but both faust and Hydrad are suspicious here.

Vote: faust
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