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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #825 on: June 10, 2020, 03:19:29 am »

Vote: Didds

She scumslipped.

post 800?
Indeed.
How is that a scumslip? I’m not seeing it.
If I were to claim House and order, it would not be a fullclaim, and I expect the same to be true for other townies.
I figured that’s what you meant. Don’t you think that’s true for mafia too though?
Yes but mafia wouldn't think it's true for town, so when fakeclaiming they would act like their only powers were from their order.
Hm we already have the dustbringer power proven and it’s very clear in the role pm that the extra power belongs to the order. I think his post is NAI.

But you’re town, that’s at least something.
... are you talking about Dylan? Because I'm not.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #826 on: June 10, 2020, 03:27:13 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #827 on: June 10, 2020, 03:42:00 am »

Alright... time to try to interpret our friend the Bard.

Oh, My trade is that of a lowly knave,
And this path of mine seeks not to be brave,
While poverty I am naught to savor,
Worry I not, I have the King’s favor.

I think someone said this was a 3rd party claim? Seems unlikely. I guess if anything it's some kind of breadcrumb to be referred to later, but I'm not really interested in trying to interpret it.


“Perhaps I should be more clear. I think people should regularly partake of Quiet Times, (hereby referred to as ‘QTs’) for the sake of gaining information that they did not have previously.”

Vote: Eddie for claiming Cult Leader.

The small man who called himself Paul stared quizzically at the overly active polyhedral.

"I must say, this leap in logic is one that I find most comical, and in many ways warrants action on my part."

He strummed his lute once and let the tone fade to nothingness before saying in a clear voice: Vote: Hypercube

Even if hypercube's vote isn't a joke (Cults aren't a thing in non-Bastard games),  I don't think it's scummy.


Vote: Glooble

Presumably this is for Glooble's response to faust's Dustbringer plan?



"Glooble is likely scum, MiX is not."


I just find it odd that a an opinion on me swiveled so drastically based in such an innocuous and flimsy case.

I get the sense that this interaction is a symptom of Eddie's style of posting.


And I can safely say Glooble for now

I guess the confidence here is a joke? Would like to hear why.


Y’all Glooble voters are crazy. He’s being hella towny.

A fair point, my good man, and one that I shall happily cede to thou for the time being, as well as taking this time to talk to MiX as requested.

What's a fair point? "He's being hella towny" is an unsubstantiated opinion, not a point, and you made zero points about why he was scummy.

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I believe Glooble and EFHW are the only people who have said (something) more than twelve times that I have a care to be suspicious of, which makes me more wary of other names overall.

Even with the amendment, I don't understand this sentence.

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I feel like poking at some of the more quiet folk and testing their reactions. Hypercube is my first instinct, but I typically find mixed merit in poking at people that provide questionable cases. Either they are searching for a logical scum tell as scum, or not thinking things through as town, so the accusation of Cult Leader baffled me a bit.

I thought the accusation was a joke, and taking it seriously is somewhat baffling.

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I think pointing towards a Vote: Pasta holds the most promise?

Why?


Hmf, I don't really want to continue this discussion. I want the people who are on GHS to move their votes because that wagon is laaaame.

Our antihero doth speak truth, I cannot fathom this case, perchance I am missing a key element to the argument regarding his behavior?

This seems a pointless post when you haven't provided reasons for most of your reads.


So... I need to go over Dylan again to understand that interaction.  But otherwise there really isn't much to be said about Eddie. Voting without giving reasons is mildly scummy, but otherwise his style to me makes him impossible to read. As much as he might be enjoying it, if it's not already anti-Town it will be soon. Unless he starts being clearer, I would gladly join a lynch on him if for no other reason than to make the game easier to figure out.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #828 on: June 10, 2020, 03:56:47 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #829 on: June 10, 2020, 04:01:55 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
If Dylan is town, then we already have a claim with order power revealed.
It makes the whole “mafia would forget that part with a full claim” idea less likely.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #830 on: June 10, 2020, 04:06:00 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
If Dylan is town, then we already have a claim with order power revealed.
It makes the whole “mafia would forget that part with a full claim” idea less likely.
I'm not arguing that the special order power is what Didds ignored as being part of a fullclaim, I'm arguing that she forgot that you can have powers completely unrelated to your order.

You're not looking too good here either.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #831 on: June 10, 2020, 04:08:15 am »

Actually,

Vote: Rhand
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #832 on: June 10, 2020, 04:15:31 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
If Dylan is town, then we already have a claim with order power revealed.
It makes the whole “mafia would forget that part with a full claim” idea less likely.
I'm not arguing that the special order power is what Didds ignored as being part of a fullclaim, I'm arguing that she forgot that you can have powers completely unrelated to your order.

You're not looking too good here either.
You can have powers unrelated to your order? What even are you talking about?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #833 on: June 10, 2020, 06:35:56 am »

I don't see this as a scumslip per se.

if Glooble isn't happening, I'd vote: Eddie then.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #834 on: June 10, 2020, 06:36:46 am »

we can afford 3rd party lynch, given that this night we will have a bit of results
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #835 on: June 10, 2020, 06:53:23 am »

I also don’t have any powers unrelated to my order. I don’t think this is alignment indicative. I would have made the same assumption as Didds.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #836 on: June 10, 2020, 06:54:30 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
If Dylan is town, then we already have a claim with order power revealed.
It makes the whole “mafia would forget that part with a full claim” idea less likely.
I'm not arguing that the special order power is what Didds ignored as being part of a fullclaim, I'm arguing that she forgot that you can have powers completely unrelated to your order.

You're not looking too good here either.

...does anyone else have powers outside the Order?

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #837 on: June 10, 2020, 06:54:53 am »

Faust, if you are town I think you’re making an assumption that something in your QT applies to all town when it doesn’t.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #838 on: June 10, 2020, 07:40:39 am »

Didds didn't say she was describing what a full claim is, she gave two questions that Eddie asked.

All three of Eddie's neighbors are being oddly coy with information about what happened. 
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #839 on: June 10, 2020, 07:42:59 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.

Scumslip here? Or 3rd party slip? Knowing someone's order does not tell you the special power that goes with it.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #840 on: June 10, 2020, 07:50:25 am »

Didds didn't say she was describing what a full claim is, she gave two questions that Eddie asked.

All three of Eddie's neighbors are being oddly coy with information about what happened.

So are the others that probably exist that haven't claimed as such. The Eddie business is a tricky one.

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.

Scumslip here? Or 3rd party slip? Knowing someone's order does not tell you the special power that goes with it.

That's a nothing-slip. I'll let Rhand explain.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #841 on: June 10, 2020, 07:52:48 am »

Didds didn't say she was describing what a full claim is, she gave two questions that Eddie asked.

All three of Eddie's neighbors are being oddly coy with information about what happened.

Scratch that first part. I think faust is right that something slipped in her post. It seems like a mistake a non-knight would make.

I do want us to pursue the second part. Why wouldn't a town!neighbor tell us the whole story of what Eddie wanted?

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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #842 on: June 10, 2020, 07:54:12 am »

I don't want to lynch him, and thus I don't think it helps town to know everything Uncle wants.

We're not going to catch scum D2 if we spend D1 lynching him, and he's a good scumhunter, I'd rather keep him around.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #843 on: June 10, 2020, 07:56:40 am »

I'm not saying lynch Eddie,  I'm asking why the three of you are holding information back.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #844 on: June 10, 2020, 07:58:58 am »

I'm not saying lynch Eddie,  I'm asking why the three of you are holding information back.

The information's much less useful if said publicly. It's only useful as a trick, something scum doesn't expect.

I also don't want to tell them how much I've shared with Uncle and vice-versa.

For what it's worth, he only asked for my Order in his opening posts, not my House.
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #845 on: June 10, 2020, 08:13:41 am »

I'm not saying lynch Eddie,  I'm asking why the three of you are holding information back.

The information's much less useful if said publicly. It's only useful as a trick, something scum doesn't expect.

I also don't want to tell them how much I've shared with Uncle and vice-versa.

For what it's worth, he only asked for my Order in his opening posts, not my House.

You had already told everyone your house....
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #846 on: June 10, 2020, 08:14:05 am »

I'm not saying lynch Eddie,  I'm asking why the three of you are holding information back.

The information's much less useful if said publicly. It's only useful as a trick, something scum doesn't expect.

I also don't want to tell them how much I've shared with Uncle and vice-versa.

For what it's worth, he only asked for my Order in his opening posts, not my House.
You claimed your house when GHS was pushing for a house claim
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #847 on: June 10, 2020, 08:14:24 am »

@Dylan I do not have the information that he said he has.
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« Reply #848 on: June 10, 2020, 08:17:03 am »

Oops. Right. Nevermind then.

@Dylan I do not have the information that he said he has.

So did you not cooperate?
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Re: RMM56: Stormlight Archive Mafia (Day 1)
« Reply #849 on: June 10, 2020, 08:25:07 am »

No about dibbs.
It’s so clear that the extra power belongs to the order that calling house + order a fullclaim is totally NAI.
I don't know what Dylan's power belonging to the order has to do with anything.
If Dylan is town, then we already have a claim with order power revealed.
It makes the whole “mafia would forget that part with a full claim” idea less likely.
I'm not arguing that the special order power is what Didds ignored as being part of a fullclaim, I'm arguing that she forgot that you can have powers completely unrelated to your order.

You're not looking too good here either.

I don’t have powers outside of my order...everything is explained in terms of order.  O, house and order for me would be everything I’ve got, knowledge wise, except my number of spheres.

But maybe I understand what information I have differently? I for sure didn’t understand why folks were saying that if they were town, they should have told Eddie everything he wanted to know.  Now, I wasn’t informed about his potential shift, but still, it seems antithetical to how we normally play to just share everything with someone because they ask.

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