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[mcmcsalot]

@lalight (quotes are annoying)

How did witherweavers hammer look quick to you? I think it was rather towny, your vote looked scummier in my opinion. Especially because it seems like you were still thinking eevee might be town despite never arguing against lynching eevee.

I was not thinking Eevee is townie after he confused Tracker and Watcher. Though looked like WW came online and hammered quickly.

Why did my vote look scummier?

Because your vote seemed to be over explained. We pretty much new eevee was scum based on the slip, but you still felt the need to mention that you feel safe voting because if I was scum and eevee town there would have been a quickhammer by now.

I think spaceanemone felt the same way as me since they responded to your vote by pointing out that yes you are making a correct statement but it's kind of an obvious one due to me/robz/eevee's interactions all game.

[mcmcsalot]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

[Calamitas]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

That's not ludicrous, I have seen something like that before. The idea that eevee confuses tracker and watcher to end the day with an "ooooopps" statement is ludicrous.

[SpaceAnemone]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

Sure, but did you read Covert Affairs Mafia? The plot Calamitas and Robz pulled off was very smart, and I say that as the person left at lylo who ended up making the wrong call because of it :-P

Anyway, I still think Calamitas's statement kind of points towards Robz and Eevee being scum, and Robz himself is oddly silent at the moment. Or is busy plotting over in the scum QT, of course...

[mcmcsalot]

I think the scum team is definitely either eevee/robz/cal or eevee/robz/lalight

If I die in the night tonight look at how everyone left in the game reacted to my pushing eevee earlier in the game.

[SpaceAnemone]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

That's not ludicrous, I have seen something like that before. The idea that eevee confuses tracker and watcher to end the day with an "ooooopps" statement is ludicrous.

I've been scum with Eevee, and he actually did seem prone to getting a little flustered. I can easily read him as genuine here.

[mcmcsalot]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

That's not ludicrous, I have seen something like that before. The idea that eevee confuses tracker and watcher to end the day with an "ooooopps" statement is ludicrous.

So eevee is definitely scum. So after accidentally confusing tracker/watcher, or confusing which one he claimed, he realized he was caught and never posted again. Once he was prodded and the day completely ended he posted oooooopps because he made a big ooopsie...why is the ludicrous, it's exactly what I would do if I made that mistake. Well I may have posted a more angry or depressed sounding oops but eevee is a pretty positive/happy person so this makes perfect sense.

[mcmcsalot]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

Sure, but did you read Covert Affairs Mafia? The plot Calamitas and Robz pulled off was very smart, and I say that as the person left at lylo who ended up making the wrong call because of it :-P

Anyway, I still think Calamitas's statement kind of points towards Robz and Eevee being scum, and Robz himself is oddly silent at the moment. Or is busy plotting over in the scum QT, of course...

I haven't read that but I bet you anything robz and cal were not one town on town vote away from winning the game...

[Calamitas]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

Sure, but did you read Covert Affairs Mafia? The plot Calamitas and Robz pulled off was very smart, and I say that as the person left at lylo who ended up making the wrong call because of it :-P

Anyway, I still think Calamitas's statement kind of points towards Robz and Eevee being scum, and Robz himself is oddly silent at the moment. Or is busy plotting over in the scum QT, of course...

I haven't read that but I bet you anything robz and cal were not one town on town vote away from winning the game...

We were. 3 townies versus 2 scums, I sacrificed myself with a ridiculous incriminating statement to ensure to reach a LyLo where robz is the least suspicious to ensure a (pretty much) guaranteed win.
The thing is that in those scenarios scum needs one wrong vote of a townie at any given point, they don't need it right then. So they might plot to ensure that that vote happens, how many scum die up until that point doesn't matter.

[Robz888]

Eevee is too good to screw this up, there is some kind of plot going on with certainty. I guess scum has seen a path to victory they reach by assuring eevee gets lynched today, it reminds me of the thing robz and I pulled in M88.

Umm do you know how outrageous it sounds for a scum team that only needs ONE more mislynch, only needs ONE towny to vote for a town player, to contrive a fake scumslip plan that would get one of there own lynched. That's ludicrous.

Sure, but did you read Covert Affairs Mafia? The plot Calamitas and Robz pulled off was very smart, and I say that as the person left at lylo who ended up making the wrong call because of it :-P

Anyway, I still think Calamitas's statement kind of points towards Robz and Eevee being scum, and Robz himself is oddly silent at the moment. Or is busy plotting over in the scum QT, of course...

I haven't read that but I bet you anything robz and cal were not one town on town vote away from winning the game...

We were. 3 townies versus 2 scums, I sacrificed myself with a ridiculous incriminating statement to ensure to reach a LyLo where robz is the least suspicious to ensure a (pretty much) guaranteed win.
The thing is that in those scenarios scum needs one wrong vote of a townie at any given point, they don't need it right then. So they might plot to ensure that that vote happens, how many scum die up until that point doesn't matter.

Calamitas is correct, that's what happened. Don't know if it's what's happening here. Eevee deliberately throwing himself under the bus in order to get me mislynched on the subsequent day seems pretty smart though!

Space, Calamitas, and LaLight were all in 88 and would have remember how well it worked out for scum.

[Witherweaver]

I think the simpler answers are usually the better ones.

[Robz888]

I think the simpler answers are usually the better ones.

What is the simple answer?

[mcmcsalot]

I think the simpler answers are usually the better ones.

What is the simple answer?

Eevee messed up.

[Witherweaver]

Yeah.

[Calamitas]

This doesn't make any sense at all. I'm pretty certain scum has discussed eevee's claim at night and there is no way this would have come out of it.

[mcmcsalot]

This doesn't make any sense at all. I'm pretty certain scum has discussed eevee's claim at night and there is no way this would have come out of it.

ugh cal this kinda stuff is really out there and without a conclusion its also not a helpful statement for town. You are saying the evidence wehave MUST

[mcmcsalot]

This doesn't make any sense at all. I'm pretty certain scum has discussed eevee's claim at night and there is no way this would have come out of it.

ugh cal this kinda stuff is really out there and without a conclusion its also not a helpful statement for town. You are saying the evidence wehave MUST

accidentally hit enter.

ugh cal this kinda stuff is really out there and without a conclusion its also not a helpful statement for town. You are saying the evidence we have MUST be a plot by scum so we can't use normal scumhunting patterns when assessing the data we have. Then you don't go on to make a conclusion of what you think the plan by scum would actually be, you just say it has to be a plan.

you have been made out to be the "statistics guy" by others so I have let posts similar to this go in the past but man if you are town think about what the rest of us townies are getting out of your post.

[Robz888]

Um, it's definitely not "really out there."

[schadd]

Eevee has been lynched! He was Ada (from Juli Zeh's Gaming Instinct), the Mafia 2-shot Ninja!

Night 3 starts now and lasts until Jan 6, 7:30 AM forum time.

Thread locked!

[faust]

Does flavor suck this game? Maybe. Sorry.

LaLight has been killed! They were Alexander Perchov (from Jonathan Safran Foer's Everything is Illuminated), the Vanilla Townie!

Day 4 begins!

Vote Count 4.0

Not Voting (6): Calamitas, SpaceAnemone, teamlyle, Robz888, mcmcsalot, Witherweaver

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch. Day 4 ends Jan 13 at noon forum time.

[Witherweaver]

I'm not sure I get it.  Should we massclaim today?

[SpaceAnemone]

What don't you get? With Eevee dead, we're not quite at lylo any more, are we?

[Witherweaver]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

[Witherweaver]

Well, I have a guess.

[Robz888]

I don't get why LaLight was killed.

Aren't we still at LyLo?

No. We're at MYLO, I think. If we mislynch, we lose.

If we don't lynch at all, we're still okay. And we should probably do that. For reasons.