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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2775 on: April 07, 2019, 08:09:55 am »

If you (WCD, but really, anyone) believe that EFHW’s death is highly indicative of Garak being mafia, then yes, MiX is a better lynch than ADK, because he has a higher chance of being scum.

Why would I agressively hunt for Garak D4 if I'm Garak? What would I accomplish? What do you think happened for me to do such a thing?

It’s exactly what I would have done at your f.ds mafia age.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2776 on: April 07, 2019, 08:13:08 am »

Does the day end in 12 hours or so?

Am I going to have to claim to ensure the right lynch goes through?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2777 on: April 07, 2019, 08:14:16 am »

If you (WCD, but really, anyone) believe that EFHW’s death is highly indicative of Garak being mafia, then yes, MiX is a better lynch than ADK, because he has a higher chance of being scum.

Why would I agressively hunt for Garak D4 if I'm Garak? What would I accomplish? What do you think happened for me to do such a thing?

It’s exactly what I would have done at your f.ds mafia age.

Fair enough.

Does the day end in 12 hours or so?

Am I going to have to claim to ensure the right lynch goes through?

If you aren't Loved I have no idea what your claim does that helps town. Unless you want to explain your Garak actions?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2778 on: April 07, 2019, 08:16:20 am »

Who’s voting for me now?  SA and MiX?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2779 on: April 07, 2019, 08:17:50 am »

Who’s voting for me now?  SA and MiX?

Yes.

I'm so used to shorter mafia that I love to do short posts like this, yet I desperately try not to; maybe I should do these more.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2780 on: April 07, 2019, 08:19:09 am »

I’ve got to do something now, but if someone else unvotes in the next hour or so, I will claim enough information to ensure the right lynch happens for town today.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2781 on: April 07, 2019, 08:25:57 am »

Unvote: ash

As much as I know he's scum, I really want to see what he has cooked up to prove his innocence.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2782 on: April 07, 2019, 09:13:23 am »

WCD: I’d like to convince you that MiX is not SK.  Of that I am sure, but I’d rather not say why.

I’m reticent to claim, but I will own up to not being Garak this entire time. I’m 100% convinced MiX has to be mafia!Garak, considering his laser focus on ensuring he blames someone else for his actions.

Oh boy, that changes a lot. Uh, I do not have a lot of time today to go back and reread all the ash and mix interactions to see if this is plausible.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2783 on: April 07, 2019, 09:30:12 am »

If you (WCD, but really, anyone) believe that EFHW’s death is highly indicative of Garak being mafia, then yes, MiX is a better lynch than ADK, because he has a higher chance of being scum.

Why would I agressively hunt for Garak D4 if I'm Garak? What would I accomplish? What do you think happened for me to do such a thing?

It’s exactly what I would have done at your f.ds mafia age.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2784 on: April 07, 2019, 10:00:38 am »

Okay, time is of the essence here, so here goes.

I'm Garak.  I bus-drove faust and UoS on N3.  That makes for some funny reviews in retrospect.


























j/k.  Not Garak.  MiX is still Garak (I believe), and is definitely still mafia.

I'm the SK.  And I'm Yates.

I basically softclaimed this earlier in the day.  So, here's the thing.  Lynch me now, lose to mafia.  I mean, WCD claimed and won't be shot.  I'm the Commuter, so they're guaranteed to kill town tonight and endgame town at 2-2.  Even the Loved player doesn't help, since town can't lynch scum, scum can just wait out the day and kill again.

So town's best (and only) option now is to keep me alive and lynch me at LYLO.  You know that's safe because WCD claimed so I am not lynchproof.

Won't scum kill me?  No, I can guarantee I'll be around tomorrow with my night survival skills.  And I can shoot the other scum and perhaps speed up the game.  Or I can shoot WCD to remove the protective layer, in case we're worried there.  (Oh, fyi -- Jimmmm, shraeye, Dat, faust.)

In case it isn't obvious, no one else should claim anything.





Then the big question.  Why'd I claim?  Well, I'd say I am the default lynch otherwise anyway, for one.  Also, I decided that if I was going to kingmake, I would do it for town in what was otherwise a fairly scum-leaning game.  I think I am overpowered in this setup depending on the power I get, anyway.

So, you know I'm scum for sure (sorry raerae).  Help me lynch the other scum team and then lynch me.  What do you think?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2785 on: April 07, 2019, 10:12:01 am »

Something else for all to consider, however you feel. Look carefully at who reacts in what way; who want to lynch who, and risk what.  The key to winning lies there (and in not lynching me).
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2786 on: April 07, 2019, 10:16:19 am »

This game is my Bankers now.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2787 on: April 07, 2019, 10:34:03 am »

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2788 on: April 07, 2019, 10:35:02 am »

This game is my Bankers now.

What's Bankers? What is that claim? I...no...he's lying. No Freaking way SK is Yates, absolutely not.

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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2789 on: April 07, 2019, 10:51:14 am »

This game is my Bankers now.

What's Bankers? What is that claim? I...no...he's lying. No Freaking way SK is Yates, absolutely not.

Vote: ash

So we're not lynching Maquis then?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2790 on: April 07, 2019, 10:51:39 am »

I think you are playing this wrong, MiX.

Lynch me and lose, even if I’m wrong about you.  Lynch literally anyone else and you still have a chance.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2791 on: April 07, 2019, 10:52:12 am »

This game is my Bankers now.

What's Bankers? What is that claim? I...no...he's lying. No Freaking way SK is Yates, absolutely not.

Vote: ash

So we're not lynching Maquis then?

Remind him and others how they came at you for wanting to lynch SK first.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2792 on: April 07, 2019, 10:53:16 am »

This game is my Bankers now.

What's Bankers? What is that claim? I...no...he's lying. No Freaking way SK is Yates, absolutely not.

Vote: ash

And are you saying you "know" he's lying or was that written as though you were stammering with disbelief. Just want to make sure I'm reading you correctly.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2793 on: April 07, 2019, 10:54:12 am »

If Mafia have double voter, they win here with me at L-2.  That’s why I wanted an unvote. I’m sure MiX knew that already.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2794 on: April 07, 2019, 11:01:35 am »

If SK is Yates we already lost. That's all. I can say why in a bit, but this is clearly a scum gambit.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2795 on: April 07, 2019, 11:03:36 am »

If SK is Yates we already lost. That's all. I can say why in a bit, but this is clearly a scum gambit.

Forget waiting, we're already screwed, being mysterious isn't helping anybody. And if you're town unvote for crying out loud. We already already we aren't killing the SK today.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2796 on: April 07, 2019, 11:05:50 am »

Ash, who is MQ?
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2797 on: April 07, 2019, 11:07:22 am »

If SK is Yates we already lost. That's all. I can say why in a bit, but this is clearly a scum gambit.

Forget waiting, we're already screwed, being mysterious isn't helping anybody. And if you're town unvote for crying out loud. We already already we aren't killing the SK today.

He is obviously lying, and if he's not then we already lost. I'm not believing SK!Yates for one second, just look how he said:

Won't scum kill me?  No, I can guarantee I'll be around tomorrow with my night survival skills.

Completely forgetting about SK being bulletproof. This is, quite literally, a MQ confession, a gambit because he knows he's the lynch. Don't believe ash just because he claimed scum, that's exactly what MQ would do in his position.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2798 on: April 07, 2019, 11:11:57 am »

If SK is Yates we already lost. That's all. I can say why in a bit, but this is clearly a scum gambit.

Forget waiting, we're already screwed, being mysterious isn't helping anybody. And if you're town unvote for crying out loud. We already already we aren't killing the SK today.

He is obviously lying, and if he's not then we already lost. I'm not believing SK!Yates for one second, just look how he said:

Won't scum kill me?  No, I can guarantee I'll be around tomorrow with my night survival skills.

Completely forgetting about SK being bulletproof. This is, quite literally, a MQ confession, a gambit because he knows he's the lynch. Don't believe ash just because he claimed scum, that's exactly what MQ would do in his position.

Just saying something is obvious doesn't make it obvious, for the record. I don't understand why he couldn't be Yates, joth randomized the roles, seems plausible. Unless your big secret is that you're Yates I don't see a compelling reason to disbelieve him.
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Re: RMM52: Deep Space Nine Mafia Redux (Day 5)
« Reply #2799 on: April 07, 2019, 11:19:13 am »

If SK is Yates we already lost. That's all. I can say why in a bit, but this is clearly a scum gambit.

Forget waiting, we're already screwed, being mysterious isn't helping anybody. And if you're town unvote for crying out loud. We already already we aren't killing the SK today.

He is obviously lying, and if he's not then we already lost. I'm not believing SK!Yates for one second, just look how he said:

Won't scum kill me?  No, I can guarantee I'll be around tomorrow with my night survival skills.

Completely forgetting about SK being bulletproof. This is, quite literally, a MQ confession, a gambit because he knows he's the lynch. Don't believe ash just because he claimed scum, that's exactly what MQ would do in his position.

Just saying something is obvious doesn't make it obvious, for the record. I don't understand why he couldn't be Yates, joth randomized the roles, seems plausible. Unless your big secret is that you're Yates I don't see a compelling reason to disbelieve him.

Did you see why I think he's not SK? I have no idea who Yates is, but he's not SK, which means he's lying, which means he's MQ. He could still be Yates, but this gambit only comes from Garak!ash, so at least someone in MQ is Garak, probably himself.
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