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[Voltaire]

Look, some peoples lists are kind of helpful. Voltaire's list, where he then crosses people off, is generally helpful because 1) He then focuses us away from specific people and toward others, and 2) His reads are much better than average.

Robz buddying me is a scum!Robz tactic. He's aware of it though, so I'm actually null here. We'll see if my thinking on why Robz is town is right soon enough.

In addition to everything else, he's committed the sin of buddying me. All he needs to do now is discredit me and we'll hit the obv!scum Robz jackpot.

[jotheonah]

I can dig a Robz lynch here.

[Voltaire]

The person who I think should get the most town-cred from ADK's flip (where I'm at right now) is Andrew. Opinions?

[Voltaire]

Ash looks pretty darn bad.

There I go again as an IC, stating my reads. Oh well!

[jotheonah]

The person who I think should get the most town-cred from ADK's flip (where I'm at right now) is Andrew. Opinions?

no, it's totally me. but I agree Andrew looks good.   

[Robz888]

Vote: ADK

This is L-1.

I tried bussing my partner, I really did. But if you're going to give me a mislynch I'm fine with it.

Robz, your explanation for this? Partner giving up?

Man, I did not see that. That does make Axxle look a little better.

Absolutely, it's partner giving up. It's hopeless at that point and he needs to be on-wagon. Then mcmc switches to Scotty. What does Axxle do? Switches back to Scotty (eventually), because now it's possible again. This is a strike against Axxle, if anything.

[Voltaire]

The person who I think should get the most town-cred from ADK's flip (where I'm at right now) is Andrew. Opinions?

no, it's totally me. but I agree Andrew looks good.   

Oh, you do too, that's for sure.

Re-read is done. Based on ADK's flip:

Look mafia-ier: Robz, xp
Look town-ier: joth, mail-mi, Andrew

Everyone else either didn't react in a way I can read or reacted in a way that could be town or a bussing partner.

I don't think it makes much sense to lynch sudgy today, though I no longer really have any read about him. Based on the end of the day, I think the odds 1 of the 2 remaining scum are/were a lurker is pretty high.

Voltaire's lynch pool (which is statistically worse than your lynchpool, dear reader):

XerxesPraelor
Robz888
Voltaire - me + sudgy's result
jotheonah - ADK flip
sudgy - his claim (pass probably good for today only)
Axxle
mail-mi - ADK flip (right? Tell me I'm not crazy here)
theorel
AndrewisFTTW - ADK flip
scott_pilgrim
mcmcsalot
ashersky

I'm now going to spend a lot of time thinking about various claiming scenarios (number, slot, role) to see if there could be anything to them.

[Voltaire]

Vote: ADK

This is L-1.

I tried bussing my partner, I really did. But if you're going to give me a mislynch I'm fine with it.

Robz, your explanation for this? Partner giving up?

Man, I did not see that. That does make Axxle look a little better.

Absolutely, it's partner giving up. It's hopeless at that point and he needs to be on-wagon. Then mcmc switches to Scotty. What does Axxle do? Switches back to Scotty (eventually), because now it's possible again. This is a strike against Axxle, if anything.

mmmmmmmmmmmm point

[AndrewisFTTW]

Wow. I forgot about that Axxle post. I don't know what XP's deal is. Is he V/LA?

[Voltaire]

Robz, at the start of the game you claim

I spent hours thinking about my choice. I hope the rest of the town did the same!

yet you have committed a large number of egregious setup errors/misunderstandings.

Explain.

[Robz888]

Robz, at the start of the game you claim

I spent hours thinking about my choice. I hope the rest of the town did the same!

yet you have committed a large number of egregious setup errors/misunderstandings.

Explain.

I actually think that contemplating the setup is inversely related to understanding it correctly (at least in my case), at least in my case. Check out Adventure Time, where I read and read and read the setup over and over again, tried to organize a massclaim, and failed spectacularly.

I think I did most of contemplating before the slot 9 rule change, read the change late at night, and then forgot about it.

[Voltaire]

What's your read on sudgy, Robz?

[jotheonah]

OK, guys thing we haven't talked about.

This is a crazy conspiracy theory, but keep in mind that scum thinks it is boned right now after a day one lynch and the stats bear them out.

What if sudgy and Voltaire are the other two scum and sudgy fakeclaimed cop to make Voltaire an IC?

[jotheonah]

is there any way to rule that out, short of lynching sudgy?

[Voltaire]

I honestly don't know, but I would point to my own behavior towards ADK and his wagon to make others rest easier about me.

Also, how would lynching sudgy help? I know I'm town, he could be mafia or SK for all I know (even though I don't think it's likely).

[jotheonah]

he flips town cop, we know he wasn't lying

he flips SK, that's just confusing

he flips scum, yeah you look bad.

[Voltaire]

But in those scenarios:

1) confirms sudgy's alignment, but he's dead. confirms what we already strongly believe (I'm town)
2) great for us, but why would we do it?
3) great for us, but proves nothing about me.

At the cost of risking a player that's not really incriminated by ADK's flip? I mean, if sudgy and I are ADK's partners, we for the post part came out of losing our partner smelling like roses, more or less. There's no narrative I can see, and I'm trying to look at this from your point of view.

[Voltaire]

*most part

[Robz888]

We should treat Voltaire as an IC and sugy as likely town. Night kills/other results will probably weed them out. There could come a day where if they are still alive we have to think about them as scum more seriously, but I definitely don't think that's today.

[scott_pilgrim]

Sudgy lynch might be something to consider later if we keep lynching town but I think we have other much better lynches to do first (like Axxle).

[jotheonah]

I agree. I wanted to get it out there for the record and gauge Volt's response to it. No we can put it back in the drawer with the other conspiracy theories.

[ashersky]

On vacay, haven't read, on to say vote: xerxes.  Caught him last night, not claiming how.  He's naturalist.

[Robz888]

Vote: xerxes[/b], but we should wait until your vacation ends to lynch him.

[Robz888]

Screwed up the bold there.

Vote: xerxes

[Robz888]

Uh, well ash is VLA until the 21st. Does Day 2 end before then?