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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #275 on: April 01, 2014, 12:20:36 pm »

I mean, a bit of explanation other than the vote would have been nice.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #276 on: April 01, 2014, 12:21:52 pm »

I mean, a bit of explanation other than the vote would have been nice.

given it came immediately after theo's post I felt it was pretty self explanatory
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #277 on: April 01, 2014, 12:23:17 pm »

Ok, so I get why theorel finds Voltaire scummy here. But I don't get why yuma is following, given that, to me, Voltaire's behavior (buddying me) is null because us buddying is kind of our thing, and yuma was in the game where that started (GoT).

Basically Voltaire has a history of buddying me like that as town. He knows that, so it would be very easy for him to replicate as scum, but I don't think it's particularly revealing of his aligment here.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #278 on: April 01, 2014, 12:24:06 pm »

is that a thing?

and if it was why would i care?
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #279 on: April 01, 2014, 12:25:03 pm »

It's not volt buddying that's scummy it's his stoking the fire so to speak between you and Yuma
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #280 on: April 01, 2014, 12:25:38 pm »

is that a thing?

and if it was why would i care?

Because it's relevant here ? If Voltaire's posts had been by anyone else, I would agree they look scummy. Because it's him, I think they're null.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #281 on: April 01, 2014, 12:26:46 pm »

It's not volt buddying that's scummy it's his stoking the fire so to speak between you and Yuma

Well it goes hand in hand. Again, I get the point and I find theorel townie for pointing it out, but I see it as normal behavior for him.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #282 on: April 01, 2014, 12:27:04 pm »

is that a thing?

and if it was why would i care?

Because it's relevant here ? If Voltaire's posts had been by anyone else, I would agree they look scummy. Because it's him, I think they're null.

nope... not for me. at least not in regard to this meta.

what mcmc said
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #283 on: April 01, 2014, 12:30:14 pm »

I agree that Volt is scummy here, I just had a knee-jerk reaction the Yuma's vote.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #284 on: April 01, 2014, 12:32:34 pm »

Looking back over this, I'm feeling

Town: Robz, theorel
Null: mc, yuma
Slightly scummy: teproc
scummy: Voltaire

Vote: Voltaire
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #285 on: April 01, 2014, 12:33:53 pm »

Well this is something else entirely. Too scummy to be scum maybe ? But ADK was obvtown to me in Super Mario, so...

vote : A Drowned Kernel
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #286 on: April 01, 2014, 12:44:25 pm »

What exactly is scummy about me? That's I'm changing my vote? I'm rereading things and changing my mind about them. Maybe I should analyze more before making up my mind but I feel like what keeps happening with these games is I analyze and analyze and reread and double-guess myself and never get anywhere.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #287 on: April 01, 2014, 12:47:28 pm »

Holy crap I'm way behind. Sorry guys, let me catch up real quick.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #288 on: April 01, 2014, 01:14:46 pm »

Ok so there's not much to go on and there are some noticeably absent people as well, but I don't see scum in yuma or voltaire. I think ADK looks a little odd here so I'm gonna go ahead and

vote: ADK.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #289 on: April 01, 2014, 01:47:31 pm »

Oh uh. This is actually a scum!yuma trait.

What is ?

What you also said/pointed out. scum!yuma throws up his hands and says things that have a subtext of "then I quit" or "I'm taking my ball and going home". town!yuma gets frustrated too but I feel like they are very very different and not so hard to tell apart.

I know yuma likes to say "but I would do that as town too" about things he's done when scum but man it doesn't work that way.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #290 on: April 01, 2014, 01:49:20 pm »

Oh! This is what I get for catching up on things after replying to posts. I see I drew a yuma vote with no explanation! How scummy is that, theorel?

(answer: not very, actually.)
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #291 on: April 01, 2014, 01:51:16 pm »

But then the vote on yuma now, considering Voltaire is voting for yuma and ADK thinks Voltaire is scummy... that doesn't look good. Especially since ADK was super townie in Super Mario (to me at least) so I don't expect him to look scummy as town...

You can read ADK? Because man, I can't read ADK.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #292 on: April 01, 2014, 01:52:23 pm »

Robz doesn't want me to try so hard, so sheeping seems like the way to do it... Plus it is a very good point!

Oh, still catching up. These sort of posts with an undertone of petulance* are what I am talking about.

*please understand this is not meant to be personal, I am scumhunting, and that is the most accurately descriptive word I can think of for what I believe I am seeing
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #293 on: April 01, 2014, 01:53:50 pm »

It's not volt buddying that's scummy it's his stoking the fire so to speak between you and Yuma

I had voted for yuma - if I was stoking the fire, as you say, it's because I think yuma is scum and I want people to vote for him!
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« Reply #294 on: April 01, 2014, 01:55:05 pm »

Me buddying Teproc is totally a thing. He speaks the sense. I think we have always had the same alignment*, which means I can say that I've never been wrong about him (we were scum buddies with ash in a game).

*open to corrections, Teproc's point about DWII being more recent than I think means that all the games are blurring together now in my head
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« Reply #295 on: April 01, 2014, 01:56:17 pm »

Aw man, the wagon on me is dying before it gets really going? It's been a long time since a good ol' fashioned D1 Voltaire wagon.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #296 on: April 01, 2014, 02:02:15 pm »

But then the vote on yuma now, considering Voltaire is voting for yuma and ADK thinks Voltaire is scummy... that doesn't look good. Especially since ADK was super townie in Super Mario (to me at least) so I don't expect him to look scummy as town...

You can read ADK? Because man, I can't read ADK.

I've only played with him once, and I had a strong and correct read on him (but my reads were uncharacteristically good that game).

From what I remember, you and I have always been the same alignment yes (town in GoT, DWII and DoP, scum in Chocolate).

I still think yuma is somewhat scummy, but the fact that he got away from our fight is appeasing that a bit. I was kinda losing (which doesn't mean I was wrong !) and I think scum!yuma would just press on, because people so often read these fights as town v town. The fact that he moved on to something else might mean that town!yuma recognised this was going nowhere and decided to move on. Now the fact that his "moving on" vote is a sheep of theorel isn't great though, so I still have my doubts.
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« Reply #297 on: April 01, 2014, 02:06:03 pm »

Town read on Teproc.
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #298 on: April 01, 2014, 02:10:35 pm »

Robz doesn't want me to try so hard, so sheeping seems like the way to do it... Plus it is a very good point!

Oh, still catching up. These sort of posts with an undertone of petulance* are what I am talking about.

*please understand this is not meant to be personal, I am scumhunting, and that is the most accurately descriptive word I can think of for what I believe I am seeing

I am being petulant. I will fully admit to that. Why? Because I think I am right. I feel really good about my read on Teproc, but Robz basically doesn't want me to continue having the discussion... so yeah, I am annoyed. You know the last time I got into a big fight with someone and we called each other scum all day long... Diffusion of Power with Robz. And I WAS RIGHT!

And then I allowed town to talk me out of it because I was being too distracting and too annoying and too forceful and then ended up getting more suspicion than robz...

It is all just really annoying and really depressing that apparently the only way to win this game and get people to listen to you is by being as cryptic as possible and not having conversations and just randomly doing what... so yeah... I am annoyed. You want to call that scum!yuma then go ahead... vote for me. But it isn't. I was annoyed in Diffusion of power, I was annoyed in Star Wars... really I have just been kinda annoyed lately.

But I think I am right about teproc but am not going to force the issue through if everyone else doesn't want me to do so...
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Re: MXL: The Philosopher's Mafia (D1 starts!)
« Reply #299 on: April 01, 2014, 02:18:46 pm »

I have a near unwavering town read of Yuma.
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