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[AHoppy]

Scum qt?

http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/TTRvYvwxFtUBp

[yuma]

Yeah the double bus D1 I thought AHoppy was a goner but the fact it swung away last second with us both on there was a real boon we rode for the rest of the game.

and this makes me sick.... TA we were sooooo close... both of us town and we couldn't get it right together late day1...

Yeah, Yuma, I feel like we were totally on the same page this entire game.

Which made me so paranoid, since at times, it seemed like you were the only active player, and I was so afraid of getting misled...

If I had trusted you, and doctored you instead of switching to Robz, this game could have gone completely differently.

Yeah, well my trustability factor was pretty low after bad day1 and day2 reads from me, so I don't blame you at all...

[Twistedarcher]

It's been so long since I had a correct read... Oh well

[yuma]

Reading the scum QT was an ego boost so say the least... And one I needed given I haven't won a game in about 6 tries and haven't had a correct lynch in just about as long...

So I guess thanks for killing me and making me feel powerful or something?

[Eevee]

The best thing about my play in this one was that I never thought it was any good myself.

[Twistedarcher]

The best thing about my play in this one was that I never thought it was any good myself.

Sorry

[sudgy]

THREAD LOCKED

[sudgy]

faust has been lynched.  He was a town cop.

Robz888, pingpongsam, and AHoppy have won flawlessly!

pingpongsam is MVP for his good bussing on D1, constantly avoiding being lynched, and his fakeclaim.

Full setup:

1. Jimmmmm: N2 Doctor
2. AHoppy: Mafia Goon
3. Robz888: Mafia Goon
4. Twistedarcher: N2 Doctor
5. Archetype: N1 Doctor
6. Voltaire: N2 Cop
7. yuma: N3 Cop
8. mail-mi: N4 Cop
9. Eevee: N4 Cop
10. faust: N5 Cop
11. scott_pilgrim: N5 Cop
12. pingpongsam: Mafia Goon
13. nkirbit: N4 Doctor

QTs: (way more than was needed)

Mod

Old Mafia

Actual Mafia

Speccy 1

Speccy 2

Speccy 3

[Jimmmmm]

Wow, 4 N4-5 Cops.

[Robz888]

Yeah, the re-rolled setup certainly looks like it would favor scum.

[faust]

After my last exchange with pps I really thought it was obvious that he has to be scum. Then I got quickhammered. TA, if only you had listened to me and unvoted!

[Teproc]

faust, you were so scummy in later days ! Sooooooo scummy ! I was convinced you were town until day 3 and then not so much.

Then again, I was convinced S_P was scum the whole game. Ahem.

Can't believe we were so close to lynching scum on day 1. And that we lynched me instead ! Tsssk.

Congrats to scum, PPS especially, well-deserved flawless victory.

[faust]

And well, this game town really had bad luck. Only night 4/5 Cops, not a single successful doctoring, we basically played a Vanilla game. Add in chairs' suicide - this really cost us one more Day.

I think while this setup might be balanced on average, it has way too high variance. As it is, it was tilted towards scum. If all Cops had been N1/N2 though, it would have strongly favored town.

Finally, all the speccy thought I was scum? Can anyone tell me how I should have played differently as town? I'm always eager to improve my play.

[pingpongsam]

Yeah, seeing the setup it was basically a vanilla game. Also, somehow mail-mi sneaked into the final setup. I guess he NK'd chairs?

[Teproc]

Yeah, seeing the setup it was basically a vanilla game. Also, somehow mail-mi sneaked into the final setup. I guess he NK'd chairs?

I'm fine with putting all the blame on nkirbit. How the hell did this guy get himself mislynched on day 1 ? With an all-town wagon, no less (+ AHoppy, but he would have been there had he been town as well).

[yuma]

Finally, all the speccy thought I was scum? Can anyone tell me how I should have played differently as town? I'm always eager to improve my play.

I have no idea... Obviously I have a bias towards you for some reason. But certainly two things in particular tipped me off... first your increasing suspicion and aggression toward TA. Second was Robz's interaction with you. I was quite sure he was mafia and the way he was acting toward you was exactly what I thought robz would do as scum to a partner that he may or may not need to bus. But as for things to change? I really don't know.

[Voltaire]

Yeah, faust, for me it was you going after TA so hard that made me think you were scum. There was just no way TA wasn't town. No way! TA, you played great. Everyone who says you were scummy is crazy (and scum themselves, so don't listen!).

Of course, I also thought PPS was town, so... 

Would love to play this setup again.

[Robz888]

Wow, after reading the spec QT, I have to say, we did pretty well. No one called the correct team, or even came close, really.

We of course definitely had luck on our side with the setup, and other factors like chairs outing hugely benefited us.

A well deserved MVP for PPS!

And yeah, you'll read in the scum QT that I said on Night 3, "Me still being alive should be an automatic indicator at this point that I am scum." I just hoped everyone who would notice that was already dead. On a related note, the kills were definitely from my perspective about eliminating townies than threaten me, namely Voltaire and yuma. Thankfully, that was only obvious to Voltaire and yuma.

[Voltaire]

I do have to say, a well-deserved gg to scum. Easily the best performance in a long, long time.

[Eevee]

Yeah, I stopped reading after I died, but every time I checked the thread to see who is still alive, I thought "Robz is still alive? He musttt be scum!"z

[yuma]

And yeah, you'll read in the scum QT that I said on Night 3, "Me still being alive should be an automatic indicator at this point that I am scum." I just hoped everyone who would notice that was already dead. On a related note, the kills were definitely from my perspective about eliminating townies than threaten me, namely Voltaire and yuma. Thankfully, that was only obvious to Voltaire and yuma.

Hmmm... I disagree to an extent. If you were town you were consistently at least a viable mislynch candidate so I could see mafia keeping you alive for that. But what was more indicative was that voltaire and I were both dead. That was kinda a giveaway at that point.

[Twistedarcher]

Just wanna say that if I were scum, I'd want to kill volt and Yuma too, so it doesn't mean that robz is scum!